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Topic: unamerican
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Wed 08/13/08 07:19 PM



You are unamerican not because of your views, but because of your disregard for American values, and more importantly, your malevolence towards them. There is nothing wrong with disagreeing with American policies, but saying that you are an American simply because you took an oath (one which you can't uphold obviously) is a load of BS. You've made it abundantly clear on here that you have an allegiance to your nation of birth, which obviously supersedes your supposed oath to the Constitution, which is in fact, a violation of that oath.

Go back to the Soviet Union from whence you came and I'll see you out on the battlefield when America's "Eagle proceeds to rip the intestines from Eurasia's "Bear."
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Really .....american values ..... let' see ..... Bush comes out and almost threatens to kill another thousand or thousands of you young americans .....in another Bogus war ......claiming that Georgia is sovereign and Russia should back off ...... yet he has killed how many thousands of young americans ....and millions of iraqis and afghanistans ...... for what exactly ....oh yes ..... I remember ......some hijackers with box cutters stole some planes ....and the TWIN towers ....solid steel structures came down .....and then building seven which wasnt hit by a plane ....came down ....oh and apparently a plane hit the pentagon .....with no signs of debris anywhere ....
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And how can we forget ....those terrible iragis with all those weapons of mass destruction ...for which not one has been found ......
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And you blind americans with so called values ......believe all that CRAP !@!!!!! What is sure is the following ..... the Afghans are no longer burning the poppy fields that make heroin for americans ......the iraquis are no longer burning the oil fields that amercians are stealing ....... And oh yes .....everyone in the world knows .......that it was Georgia backed by Israeli and American mercenaries that committed a sneak attack and killed 2000 of their owmn..... yet only CNN and american media reports ...... That Russia invaded ??????
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WAKE UP ......your american values are crap ....you will and eventually all of us will lose all liberty, freedon and possibly our lives ......because the rich Bankers and all those crooked devil worshipping multi billionaires Want to rule the world ....and they need your help to stay asleep !!!!
My MY, what someone must of got into the mushrooms again.
Way to many Canadian brewkies!!!!

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Wed 08/13/08 07:19 PM
Edited by Unknow on Wed 08/13/08 07:20 PM
DP

Chazster's photo
Wed 08/13/08 07:20 PM


You are unamerican not because of your views, but because of your disregard for American values, and more importantly, your malevolence towards them. There is nothing wrong with disagreeing with American policies, but saying that you are an American simply because you took an oath (one which you can't uphold obviously) is a load of BS. You've made it abundantly clear on here that you have an allegiance to your nation of birth, which obviously supersedes your supposed oath to the Constitution, which is in fact, a violation of that oath.

Go back to the Soviet Union from whence you came and I'll see you out on the battlefield when America's "Eagle proceeds to rip the intestines from Eurasia's "Bear."
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Really .....american values ..... let' see ..... Bush comes out and almost threatens to kill another thousand or thousands of you young americans .....in another Bogus war ......claiming that Georgia is sovereign and Russia should back off ...... yet he has killed how many thousands of young americans ....and millions of iraqis and afghanistans ...... for what exactly ....oh yes ..... I remember ......some hijackers with box cutters stole some planes ....and the TWIN towers ....solid steel structures came down .....and then building seven which wasnt hit by a plane ....came down ....oh and apparently a plane hit the pentagon .....with no signs of debris anywhere ....
.
And how can we forget ....those terrible iragis with all those weapons of mass destruction ...for which not one has been found ......
.
And you blind americans with so called values ......believe all that CRAP !@!!!!! What is sure is the following ..... the Afghans are no longer burning the poppy fields that make heroin for americans ......the iraquis are no longer burning the oil fields that amercians are stealing ....... And oh yes .....everyone in the world knows .......that it was Georgia backed by Israeli and American mercenaries that committed a sneak attack and killed 2000 of their owmn..... yet only CNN and american media reports ...... That Russia invaded ??????
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WAKE UP ......your american values are crap ....you will and eventually all of us will lose all liberty, freedon and possibly our lives ......because the rich Bankers and all those crooked devil worshipping multi billionaires Want to rule the world ....and they need your help to stay asleep !!!!


For one thing, American values and what the government does are 2 different things. For another, what about all the people in Iraq that died by Saddam's hand? The people that were to afraid to vote for anyone else because they thought they were gonna be killed?

Also there was that 500 tons of yellowcake found in Iraq, I don't know what it was for, but I know they don't have any nuclear reactors.

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Wed 08/13/08 07:31 PM
Edited by karmafury on Wed 08/13/08 07:34 PM
Nuclear reactors ................ Mosul. Yellowcake was listed with UN and accounted for.

Also:...............

Iraqi Nuclear Program Sites

Tuwaitha Nuclear Research Center
Tarmiya Uranium Enrichment Facility
Al Qaim Superphosphate Fertilizer Plant
Mosul Feed Materials Production Facility
Ramadi Radiological Weapons Test Site
Ash Sharqat Uranium Enrichment Plant
Ar Rashidiyah Centrifuge Development Plant
Al Furat Centrifuge Production Facility
Al Qa Qa High-Explosives Test Site
Al Hadre High-Explosives Test Site
Al Musayyib Nuclear Weapon Fabrication Site
Akashat Phosphate Mine
Ash Shaykhili Storage Facility
Yellowcake Storage Site, Tuwaitha Area
Spent Fuel Storage Site, Tuwaitha Area
Al Radwan
Al Amir
Dawra
Badr
Salladine
Nassar Works
Tikrit

MirrorMirror's photo
Wed 08/13/08 07:34 PM

Nuclear reactors ................ Mosul. Yellowcake was listed with UN and accounted for.
laugh There was NO yellowcakelaugh Except for the forged documents they found linking Saddam to terrorists.laugh

madisonman's photo
Wed 08/13/08 07:53 PM
drinker


You are unamerican not because of your views, but because of your disregard for American values, and more importantly, your malevolence towards them. There is nothing wrong with disagreeing with American policies, but saying that you are an American simply because you took an oath (one which you can't uphold obviously) is a load of BS. You've made it abundantly clear on here that you have an allegiance to your nation of birth, which obviously supersedes your supposed oath to the Constitution, which is in fact, a violation of that oath.

Go back to the Soviet Union from whence you came and I'll see you out on the battlefield when America's "Eagle proceeds to rip the intestines from Eurasia's "Bear."
.
.
Really .....american values ..... let' see ..... Bush comes out and almost threatens to kill another thousand or thousands of you young americans .....in another Bogus war ......claiming that Georgia is sovereign and Russia should back off ...... yet he has killed how many thousands of young americans ....and millions of iraqis and afghanistans ...... for what exactly ....oh yes ..... I remember ......some hijackers with box cutters stole some planes ....and the TWIN towers ....solid steel structures came down .....and then building seven which wasnt hit by a plane ....came down ....oh and apparently a plane hit the pentagon .....with no signs of debris anywhere ....
.
And how can we forget ....those terrible iragis with all those weapons of mass destruction ...for which not one has been found ......
.
And you blind americans with so called values ......believe all that CRAP !@!!!!! What is sure is the following ..... the Afghans are no longer burning the poppy fields that make heroin for americans ......the iraquis are no longer burning the oil fields that amercians are stealing ....... And oh yes .....everyone in the world knows .......that it was Georgia backed by Israeli and American mercenaries that committed a sneak attack and killed 2000 of their owmn..... yet only CNN and american media reports ...... That Russia invaded ??????
.
WAKE UP ......your american values are crap ....you will and eventually all of us will lose all liberty, freedon and possibly our lives ......because the rich Bankers and all those crooked devil worshipping multi billionaires Want to rule the world ....and they need your help to stay asleep !!!!
drinker right on bro!

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Wed 08/13/08 07:58 PM


Nuclear reactors ................ Mosul. Yellowcake was listed with UN and accounted for.
laugh There was NO yellowcakelaugh Except for the forged documents they found linking Saddam to terrorists.laugh


Actually there was and it was brought to canada, you can find the article on cnn.

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Wed 08/13/08 08:01 PM
laugh There was NO yellowcakelaugh Except for the forged documents they found linking Saddam to terrorists.laugh


Non-existent yellowcake is in Canada now.

http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=62908&sectionid=351020201

http://www.philly.com/inquirer/world_us/23730164.html

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25546334/

http://www.bloggernews.net/116579

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Wed 08/13/08 08:05 PM

laugh There was NO yellowcakelaugh Except for the forged documents they found linking Saddam to terrorists.laugh


Non-existent yellowcake is in Canada now.

http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=62908&sectionid=351020201

http://www.philly.com/inquirer/world_us/23730164.html

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25546334/

http://www.bloggernews.net/116579
Good lord please comeback to t he real world, this yellow cake was under lock and key in Iraq since the first gulf war. this is old news please stop deludeing yourself and others.

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Wed 08/13/08 08:10 PM
FOLLOW THE YELLOW CAKE ROAD FOLLOW THE YELLOW CAKE ROAD, FOLLOW FOLLOW FOLLOW...................This article from the AP was posted yesterday, reporting the sale and transport of 550 metric tons of yellowcake uranium from Iraq to Canada. Some of the leading right wing blogs were quick to hail the find as a significant victory for the Bush administration and proof of Saddam’s WMD program, but as Daniel De Groot at Open Left Points out, their celebrations may be a bit premature, if not dishonest:

I noted last night that a supply of uranium from Iraq had been successfully moved to Montreal in secrecy.

If you check into this, you’ll quickly find that the uranium a) was not weapons grade and b) was well known to the UN and IAEA and was being stored legally by Saddam’s government. It was legally in Iraq according to international law.

I wondered if the right wing echo chamber would use this as “proof” that the WMD claims were true after all. I got even better than I hoped, as not only do they use it that way, but they reveal how dishonest they are by the way they have done this.

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/07/06/yellowcake-uranium-found-in-iraq-bush-was-right-well-not-so-much/

karmafury's photo
Wed 08/13/08 08:13 PM
If you check into this, you’ll quickly find that the uranium a) was not weapons grade and b) was well known to the UN and IAEA and was being stored legally by Saddam’s government. It was legally in Iraq according to international law.


Seems I said that earlier.happy drinker drinker

Chazster's photo
Wed 08/13/08 08:14 PM

FOLLOW THE YELLOW CAKE ROAD FOLLOW THE YELLOW CAKE ROAD, FOLLOW FOLLOW FOLLOW...................This article from the AP was posted yesterday, reporting the sale and transport of 550 metric tons of yellowcake uranium from Iraq to Canada. Some of the leading right wing blogs were quick to hail the find as a significant victory for the Bush administration and proof of Saddam’s WMD program, but as Daniel De Groot at Open Left Points out, their celebrations may be a bit premature, if not dishonest:

I noted last night that a supply of uranium from Iraq had been successfully moved to Montreal in secrecy.

If you check into this, you’ll quickly find that the uranium a) was not weapons grade and b) was well known to the UN and IAEA and was being stored legally by Saddam’s government. It was legally in Iraq according to international law.

I wondered if the right wing echo chamber would use this as “proof” that the WMD claims were true after all. I got even better than I hoped, as not only do they use it that way, but they reveal how dishonest they are by the way they have done this.

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/07/06/yellowcake-uranium-found-in-iraq-bush-was-right-well-not-so-much/



What is your point? All I said is I don't know what it was for, they didn't have a need for it. Yea like to assume to much mad man. That will get you into trouble one day.

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Wed 08/13/08 08:16 PM
Edited by madisonman on Wed 08/13/08 08:22 PM


FOLLOW THE YELLOW CAKE ROAD FOLLOW THE YELLOW CAKE ROAD, FOLLOW FOLLOW FOLLOW...................This article from the AP was posted yesterday, reporting the sale and transport of 550 metric tons of yellowcake uranium from Iraq to Canada. Some of the leading right wing blogs were quick to hail the find as a significant victory for the Bush administration and proof of Saddam’s WMD program, but as Daniel De Groot at Open Left Points out, their celebrations may be a bit premature, if not dishonest:

I noted last night that a supply of uranium from Iraq had been successfully moved to Montreal in secrecy.

If you check into this, you’ll quickly find that the uranium a) was not weapons grade and b) was well known to the UN and IAEA and was being stored legally by Saddam’s government. It was legally in Iraq according to international law.

I wondered if the right wing echo chamber would use this as “proof” that the WMD claims were true after all. I got even better than I hoped, as not only do they use it that way, but they reveal how dishonest they are by the way they have done this.

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/07/06/yellowcake-uranium-found-in-iraq-bush-was-right-well-not-so-much/



What is your point? All I said is I don't know what it was for, they didn't have a need for it. Yea like to assume to much mad man. That will get you into trouble one day.
was pre-1991 non-weapons grade used for nuclear reactors. The UN knew about it.
And to state the obvious . . . IF any WMDs were found is there anyone on planet Earth that doesn’t believe Bush and Cheny wouldn’t be screaming “told ya so”?

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Wed 08/13/08 08:20 PM
I never said there were any WMDs did I? All I said was there was yellow cake that had no reason to be there. It can be processed to be made weapons grade, maybe they wanted too do that and didn't have the tech, maybe they wanted to build a nuclear reactor and never got around to it. I don't know. All I know is it could be potentially dangerous yet it was there all along.

I am putting no deeper meaning into it. You are just assuming I am and then you go an try to insult me. Maybe you should find a better use of you time.

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Wed 08/13/08 08:25 PM
There were nuclear reactors in Iraq.

Mosul had a reactor there and there was another (Osirak) that got hit by Israel in 1981.

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Wed 08/13/08 08:34 PM



Nuclear reactors ................ Mosul. Yellowcake was listed with UN and accounted for.
laugh There was NO yellowcakelaugh Except for the forged documents they found linking Saddam to terrorists.laugh


Actually there was and it was brought to canada, you can find the article on cnn.
laugh NOTlaugh

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Wed 08/13/08 08:35 PM

There were nuclear reactors in Iraq.

Mosul had a reactor there and there was another (Osirak) that got hit by Israel in 1981.
huh so what?huh A reactor is not a bombglasses

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Wed 08/13/08 09:02 PM
Edited by TheLonelyWalker on Wed 08/13/08 09:04 PM

it seem to me must americans call me unamerican because i dont agree with usa veiws.usa does not run the world.

that is why america pretends to do, and that is why we have horrific events such as 9/11. God bless those who died in that atrocity, but the government has its share of liability.
When the foreign policy of this government tends to the imperialism and alienation of the sovereignity of independant countries.
Right now USA is fighting a war against drugs in Colombia, yet they have a military base in my country (Ecuador). I just freakin hate the idea of having north american military personnel operating in my country. Since the problem is in Colombia they should have the damned base in Colombia. You my argue that my government had the right to say no. Yes, that is true, but since we are North American colonies which are obliged to sell our raw materials to Uncle Sam we need to do as the USA says, if not they impose economic sanctions over our export. That is the way how the ancients ran an empire that is the way is being done now.
Back in WWII there was a North American base in y country because it was an strategic place in the pacific. When WWII the soldiers left and they didn't take back the equipment nor did they leave for the use of our military. Instead they sank it in the ocean.
Just a dog uses somebody else's land to s*h*i*t, and does not even say thank you.

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Wed 08/13/08 09:05 PM
Edited by karmafury on Wed 08/13/08 09:06 PM


There were nuclear reactors in Iraq.

Mosul had a reactor there and there was another (Osirak) that got hit by Israel in 1981.
huh so what?huh A reactor is not a bombglasses


Nobody mentioned bomb.

Just yellowcake. Which was already known about by the UN and the IAEA.


But a few here have stated that Iraq had no reactors thus no cause to have yellowcake. Besides yellowcake is far from weapons grade.

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