Topic: How Far You Say!!!!!
OpenWounds's photo
Wed 08/13/08 03:04 PM
This really is the most tiresome argument going. And why does it even matter?

Do you really seriously care where you started from? You're here now, so make the most of it.

wouldee's photo
Wed 08/13/08 03:15 PM
it only matters to those that fabricate delusions.

i agree, it doesn't matter.

it is fun to remind them that they are only fooling themselves.

this is fun.


:banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:


rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl



flowers

OpenWounds's photo
Wed 08/13/08 03:22 PM
Also, for what is supposed to be a religious chat,almost all i really see is athesits and christians inflicitng their opinions on each other, and completely ignoring any given counter-argument. Really, it isnt much fun.

feralcatlady's photo
Wed 08/13/08 03:33 PM

Also, for what is supposed to be a religious chat,almost all i really see is athesits and christians inflicitng their opinions on each other, and completely ignoring any given counter-argument. Really, it isnt much fun.



Well change it up......I would love it......If you can do it.....I have tried for more then a year.

no photo
Wed 08/13/08 03:36 PM

Also, for what is supposed to be a religious chat,almost all i really see is athesits and christians inflicitng their opinions on each other, and completely ignoring any given counter-argument. Really, it isnt much fun.



GUILTY!!!

You're absolutely correct in your observation OpenWoods.

And it isn't much fun, you're right about that too.

In the end, it's a lot like a gambling addiction.

It's an all or nothing rush!

One more word. One more sentence. One more rebuttal.

In the end, the adversary shall surrender!


Most of us forget that we're on a dating site, and that real life is happening, ... out there!


:)






wouldee's photo
Wed 08/13/08 03:45 PM
oh, you didn't.huh

Voila!!!!!

and there you have it , kids.

now what?

we got caught!!!!


froggie, you jist aint no fun.


go float yer boat....

or spin yer top....
or teach yer dog to hunt...
or make yer bird fly...


I don't care, podnah, solo aslo!

:banana: :banana: :banana: rofl rofl rofl

OpenWounds's photo
Wed 08/13/08 03:52 PM

oh, you didn't.huh

Voila!!!!!

and there you have it , kids.

now what?

we got caught!!!!


froggie, you jist aint no fun.


go float yer boat....

or spin yer top....
or teach yer dog to hunt...
or make yer bird fly...


I don't care, podnah, solo aslo!

:banana: :banana: :banana: rofl rofl rofl


What... are you on?

feralcatlady's photo
Wed 08/13/08 04:01 PM


oh, you didn't.huh

Voila!!!!!

and there you have it , kids.

now what?

we got caught!!!!


froggie, you jist aint no fun.


go float yer boat....

or spin yer top....
or teach yer dog to hunt...
or make yer bird fly...


I don't care, podnah, solo aslo!

:banana: :banana: :banana: rofl rofl rofl


What... are you on?



High on God....thats it......it's the best high ever....gigglesnort.

MirrorMirror's photo
Wed 08/13/08 04:48 PM



oh, you didn't.huh

Voila!!!!!

and there you have it , kids.

now what?

we got caught!!!!


froggie, you jist aint no fun.


go float yer boat....

or spin yer top....
or teach yer dog to hunt...
or make yer bird fly...


I don't care, podnah, solo aslo!

:banana: :banana: :banana: rofl rofl rofl


What... are you on?



High on God....thats it......it's the best high ever....gigglesnort.
:heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart:

wouldee's photo
Wed 08/13/08 05:23 PM
open wounds,flowers

Voila and i go back a ways.

feral, dear sweet kittycat that she is, does too.


you had to be there to know.

rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl



signed,

flowerforyou :heart: bigsmile

Redykeulous's photo
Wed 08/13/08 08:01 PM
tsk - poorly done dear one, this will never make a passing grade in seminary (OF ALL PLACES)

You mean the notes you made from this website

http://www.wsu.edu/~dee/CIVAFRCA/IRONAGE.HTM

That begins like this:


QUOTE:
African south of the Sahara lived largely in nomadic, hunter-gatherer groups up until 200 BC. As a result, African populations were very sparse. There are several speculations as to why sub-Saharan Africans remained in hunting-gathering groups, but they are all guess-work. Perhaps the most reasonable explanations involve the abundance of resources and the protection that their isolation gave them from invasion and migration pressures.

Still, early sub-Saharan Africans developed metallurgy at a very early stage, possibly even before other peoples. Around 1400 BC, East Africans began producing steel in carbon furnaces (steel was invented in the west in the eighteenth century). The Iron Age itself came very early to Africa, probably around the sixth century BC, in Ethiopia, the Great Lakes region, Tanzania, and Nigeria. Iron technology, however, only spread slowly across Africa; it wasn't until the first century AD that the smelting of iron began to rapidly diffuse throughout the continent.



I didn't look past the first sentences of YOUR NOTES but I didn't even see a word changed. NOPE not a summary at all.

The truth is that the site above is not even an accptible URL for any kind of research. If this is the way you research for your bible informtion well;

THEN ONCE AGAIN I URGE YOU TO ENROLL IN SEMINARY.

They teach about lying there too, though I don't know if they consider plagerism a lie. I do and the poeple you steale from don't like either.

TRY AGAIN DEB SOMEONE ELSES ARGUMENT HOLDS NO VALIDATION HERE. IN FACT YOU HAVE LOST A GREAT DEAL OF YOUR OWN CREDIBILITY.

(caps for emphisis)


What, no responce? Not an apology, or and excuse. Nothing to say to all these good people for steeling and lying. People are here who defend you again people like Voil, have nothing to say to them about your actions here?????

Just let it drop, I suppose. Of course we know the only one you are responsible to is your god. Shed an extra tear tonight to make it real as you repent.

You will have to work NOW to make up your credibility. But you will, with some.





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Thu 08/14/08 04:11 AM
Edited by MorningSong on Thu 08/14/08 04:41 AM
Redy....on the previous page of this thread , Feral wrote and I quote:

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".....actually redy all my own personal notes.....but please feel free to google Iron Age....or even Bantu.....it will give you plenty.....


Then I went to my notes on the different ages.....like Iron age....and bam there ya have in bantu


I will be more then happy to find where I got the original information......

http://www.wsu.edu/~dee/CIVAFRCA/IRONAGE.HTM
..................


Redy, in the very next post ,as you can see, Feral gave you the reference to the original info...that she had incuded in PERSONAL NOTES of SAVED PAST research , which happened to include this subject matter also.



Redy, in other words.......
the PERSONAL NOTES Feral is refering to ..are the pages and pages and pages and pages of NOTES she has DOCUMENTED , of BIBLICAL STUDY and RESEARCH she has already done OVER THE YEARS.

And again, this particular subject was also INCLUDED IN HER NOTES OF WORK RESEARCHED , THAT SHE HAS DONE OVER THE YEARS.

Since She has Saved all her work, sometimes all she needs to do, is just pull up her own personal notes...and go straight to a documented saved subject matter...... to help answer questions on this Forum.


Hope this helps to clear up any misuderstandings...

:heart::heart::heart:

no photo
Thu 08/14/08 05:13 AM
Just An Important Suggestion For All....

Anytime Info is shared on this forum or any forum.... that you are NOT the author of.......

ALWAYS give the Reference....
even if the referenced material is just a small portion , Included along with your own writing....
STILL, you must list the reference , each time referenced material is used.

Will save any further problems and misunderstandings from happening again here , regarding this matter...flowerforyou

Have a Blessed Day , Everyone.flowerforyou


Abracadabra's photo
Thu 08/14/08 05:52 AM
OpenWounds wrote:

Also, for what is supposed to be a religious chat,almost all i really see is athesits and christians inflicitng their opinions on each other, and completely ignoring any given counter-argument. Really, it isnt much fun.


It's not just Christians versus Atheists.

It's Christians versus the world.

It doesn't matter if you believe in God. If you don't believe in their bible then you're out.

I'm not an atheist. Yet all I get here is that I'm a heathen rebelling against God. Just because I don't believe in the Biblical picture of God and share my reasons for why I don't believe it.

Especially in the face of heavy proselytizing threats that I need to believe it or I'm rejecting God.

I mean, when people tell you that you need to believe in a particular doctrine, doesn't it make sense that you would explain to them why you don't believe it?

Then it just becomes an argument. You trying to explain why you don't believe it, and them trying to force you to believe it.

It's all Christianity.

They're the only ones who do this.

Who else is trying to force a religion down anyone else's throat?

I tend to believe in pantheism and I'd be glad to share my reasons why I think it's the most likely picture of our true spiritual essence. But I have no desire to try to shove it onto anyone who doesn't want to hear it.

I don't care what people believe.

But when they try to shove their doctrine onto me I'll explain why I don't believe it.

If they'd quite shoving, I'd quit explaining why I don't believe it. flowerforyou

I just started a thread about a Catholic priest who realized that God is more than just a bunch of heartless callous rules.

But in that very thread I got accused of being a liar and rejecting Jesus Christ.

This is utter nonsense.

It's virtually impossible to talk about anything other than Christianity on this forum.

Try it. See how far you get with a non-Christian thread before you're accused of rejecting God and being a self-indulgent sinning rebel. laugh

Judge, judge, judge.

That's all the Christians know how to do.

They just don't know anything else. It's like that's all they ever got from their religion. Just judge all non-believers to be heathens. That's all Christianity means to them. ohwell

Redykeulous's photo
Thu 08/14/08 06:46 AM
MorningStar, I was addressing Feral. You cannot speak for her.

Furthermore, what you want to beleive is not what she meant. She meant that she had made personal notes from whatever the source or sources were. She did not mention "over the years".

Also, when one makes person notes, they are not usually complete cut and pastes. If they are, AS YOU SAID, they should be referenced properly.

Actually, even other poeples ideas should include some acknowledgement, however, when an idea is popular enough and old enough we all tend to state the information as fact.

The problem you see, is that Feral said she did not cut paste, that this was from her own notes. But NOW SHE KNOWS that even though these are YOUR OWN NOTES, if you are using and entire thought process of another, you must give it validation, or when asked you may have to lie.

Of course if she learned this lesson or not we may never know, as she is completely ignoring the issue.

wouldee's photo
Thu 08/14/08 08:05 AM

OpenWounds wrote:

Also, for what is supposed to be a religious chat,almost all i really see is athesits and christians inflicitng their opinions on each other, and completely ignoring any given counter-argument. Really, it isnt much fun.


It's not just Christians versus Atheists.

It's Christians versus the world.

It doesn't matter if you believe in God. If you don't believe in their bible then you're out.

I'm not an atheist. Yet all I get here is that I'm a heathen rebelling against God. Just because I don't believe in the Biblical picture of God and share my reasons for why I don't believe it.

Especially in the face of heavy proselytizing threats that I need to believe it or I'm rejecting God.

I mean, when people tell you that you need to believe in a particular doctrine, doesn't it make sense that you would explain to them why you don't believe it?

Then it just becomes an argument. You trying to explain why you don't believe it, and them trying to force you to believe it.

It's all Christianity.

They're the only ones who do this.

Who else is trying to force a religion down anyone else's throat?

I tend to believe in pantheism and I'd be glad to share my reasons why I think it's the most likely picture of our true spiritual essence. But I have no desire to try to shove it onto anyone who doesn't want to hear it.

I don't care what people believe.

But when they try to shove their doctrine onto me I'll explain why I don't believe it.

If they'd quite shoving, I'd quit explaining why I don't believe it. flowerforyou

I just started a thread about a Catholic priest who realized that God is more than just a bunch of heartless callous rules.

But in that very thread I got accused of being a liar and rejecting Jesus Christ.

This is utter nonsense.

It's virtually impossible to talk about anything other than Christianity on this forum.

Try it. See how far you get with a non-Christian thread before you're accused of rejecting God and being a self-indulgent sinning rebel. laugh

Judge, judge, judge.

That's all the Christians know how to do.

They just don't know anything else. It's like that's all they ever got from their religion. Just judge all non-believers to be heathens. That's all Christianity means to them. ohwell




are you daft? abra?

you foist your diatribe every day down everyones throat and you think you are so mgnificent because you have fans.

you are an amusing clown.

rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl


oh, wait.

you are complaining because evolution is conjecture parading as fact and is fraudulently esposed as deceit and you cannot disprove that fat?


the heights of stupidity have not been reached yet in your stretch and vsain groping for excuses.

stick to the point, clown ad espouse truth and fact not distortions and you won't feel it is such an offnce for having been rebuked for your incompetent embrace of such thingds.


and sit down and be quiet about Christianity. You haven't a clue and pontificcat as though you are so mistreated and misunderstood.

poor king abra.

no one is trying to convert you, abra.

no one is in this to engage in any exercise of futility in their own strength.


this is comedy.


the distortionist whining about being maligned.


rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl

feralcatlady's photo
Thu 08/14/08 06:33 PM
Redy....

Ok LOL LOL My point was that I took the very first reference on your supposed tree and took the Bantu tribe in Africa and looked it up....so do the same....you guys make us always get the scripture your talking about so do the same and look it up.

google iron age.......dang and I thought you guys were the intellects.......And also a lot of what I write is from notes from taking classes and actually from my daughter (Hmmmmmm are you smarter then a 5th grader) And just because you can't find it doesn't make it so....lol Oh Oh Oh and now I am a lier and a plagerist......,.hmmmmmmmm personal attack again....or should I say character attack.....

Well again if you knew me at all.....I don't lie...PERIOD.....see no need to....but hey stoop if that makes you feel better.

And see this is the deal.......I write from my heart and don't just copy a bunch of facts......And if I need facts I take them from reliable sources I have or ask people.......so if you think that you saying anything about my credibility holds water with me.....GUESS AGAIN. (caps to make a point)

I don't have to justify what I do to any of you.....What is put out there is for people to take what they wish or not.....a choice......And the oh so mighty non judges of people....You are the worst judges of all.....tisk tisk.

Again please take the log out of your own eye, and before careful to cast the first stone......(GIVEN TO ME BY GOD) reference 1000.....(Caps to make a point) mine reference 10001.


Redykeulous's photo
Thu 08/14/08 07:05 PM
And see this is the deal.......I write from my heart and don't just copy a bunch of facts......And if I need facts I take them from reliable sources I have or ask people.......so if you think that you saying anything about my credibility holds water with me.....GUESS AGAIN. (caps to make a point)[/quopte]

You do not write from your heart when you plagerize some one elses work and then deny it. You have been accused several times before of the cut & paste ritual you do. I have never taken the time to research it. I did not do so this time either.

I actually was lookin up iron age and flipping through some of the selections when I found the website you wrote from.

I'm done with you Feral, Deb.

I really do hope you get to go to seminary, honestly. I think you have a lot to learn and if you can bit the bullet and stay there, you may just learn a thing or two. good luck!




feralcatlady's photo
Thu 08/14/08 07:38 PM

And see this is the deal.......I write from my heart and don't just copy a bunch of facts......And if I need facts I take them from reliable sources I have or ask people.......so if you think that you saying anything about my credibility holds water with me.....GUESS AGAIN. (caps to make a point)[/quopte]

You do not write from your heart when you plagerize some one elses work and then deny it. You have been accused several times before of the cut & paste ritual you do. I have never taken the time to research it. I did not do so this time either.

I actually was lookin up iron age and flipping through some of the selections when I found the website you wrote from.

I'm done with you Feral, Deb.

I really do hope you get to go to seminary, honestly. I think you have a lot to learn and if you can bit the bullet and stay there, you may just learn a thing or two. good luck!








ahhhhhh redy you can think whatever gets your through the day.......it doesn't matter where I get the information now does it......it's the fact that you guys get backed into a corner and then personally attack because you have no other way.......And most of the information I post is because we hash over and over the same crap and I have it on my computer........so hey redy I have about 1,200 pages of documentation so hey if you want it..you got it.....And here

And frankly what you think....has no bearing on my life what so ever.......I know the kind of person I am....the people who truly know me know the kind of person I am........And most important God......knows.....

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Thu 08/14/08 08:13 PM

I love the fact that the more silentest and science digs the closer we get to God.

Some of the great minds of all human history including Newton, Einstein, Angelo and many more all totally believed there had to be God...


"For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring."
— Carl Sagan (1934-1996)

"It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it."
— Albert Einstein, 1954,

"Religion is all bunk."
— Thomas Edison


....ummmmm...guess again dude....