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Topic: New Age thinking...
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Wed 08/06/08 11:17 PM

In the "new age" arena there are said to be two factions who are locked in combat. It is the battle of good and evil you have heard so much about.

The light side calls itself "in service to others"

The "other" side (called the dark side or evil side) is called those who are in "service to self."

Both sides want to destroy the other side. It is the light side against the dark side.

You are told that you must make a choice between the two and join in the battle.

This is not true.

There is the middle path. It is the golden path of balance.

It calls for the destruction of no one. It does not join in the battle.

I am on the middle path of balance. All things, all people, have a light side and a dark side. Balance is required.

Service to others is service to self, as all is connected. If we serve others, we serve the whole and we are part of the whole.

We must balance ourselves and stop trying to destroy each other.

JB


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Wed 08/06/08 11:26 PM
yes, i call it differently but it means the same or close to it. there is a "thread of vibration" that creates a balance as you say and if it's found and can be stayed with it is harmony of all at it's best, even when things are at threre worst.

rush2001's photo
Thu 08/07/08 12:01 AM
Ying and yang. Dark and light. They are nothing without the other.

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Thu 08/07/08 12:03 AM
Both sides want to destroy the other side. It is the light side against the dark side.


I'm not convinced of this.

I think its more about people who want to tell other people what they must believe, versus people who would prefer to allow everyone the freedom to believe whatever they chose.

The people who are trying to demand that everyone believe like them are the ones who try to make it into a 'good' versus 'evil' thing. And of course, they claim to be on the side of 'good', whist accusing those who refuse to be brainwashed to be on the side of 'evil'.

The idea that it's 'good' versus 'evil' is the delusion.

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Thu 08/07/08 12:51 AM

Both sides want to destroy the other side. It is the light side against the dark side.


I'm not convinced of this.

I think its more about people who want to tell other people what they must believe, versus people who would prefer to allow everyone the freedom to believe whatever they chose.

The people who are trying to demand that everyone believe like them are the ones who try to make it into a 'good' versus 'evil' thing. And of course, they claim to be on the side of 'good', whist accusing those who refuse to be brainwashed to be on the side of 'evil'.

The idea that it's 'good' versus 'evil' is the delusion.



However - Jeannie has qualified the remark within the arena of the "New Age". I've never known New Age philosophy to be about telling other people what they should or shouldn't believe. Actually - it's more about believing a little bit of everything.

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Thu 08/07/08 12:52 AM

Both sides want to destroy the other side. It is the light side against the dark side.


I'm not convinced of this.

I think its more about people who want to tell other people what they must believe, versus people who would prefer to allow everyone the freedom to believe whatever they chose.

The people who are trying to demand that everyone believe like them are the ones who try to make it into a 'good' versus 'evil' thing. And of course, they claim to be on the side of 'good', whist accusing those who refuse to be brainwashed to be on the side of 'evil'.

The idea that it's 'good' versus 'evil' is the delusion.



i don't think it good verses evil abra but just that both exist. what were talking of is balance of the two in our own thinking and diong

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Thu 08/07/08 12:59 AM
I see.

I was thinking in terms of humanity as a whole.

This is supposed to be about an individual's stuggle within?

Yin and yang?

I've never seem to have that stuggle myself.

I've always been nonchalant.

I guess I'm a nonchalantist. laugh

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Thu 08/07/08 02:37 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Thu 08/07/08 02:49 AM
I became aware of these two factions when I was looking into many different new cults that were cropping up including the war with the aliens or draconian ("demonic") forces.

These cults are what people were calling "new age" and some of them literally worshiped aliens. One such cult worships a being called Sananda who they claim is Jesus. At that time he was in a spaceship called "hope" parked behind the moon.

Depending on the cult, the descriptions of the war and what is going on are all a little different. But it is the classic "good vs. evil" or "Light vs. Darkness" or Humans vs. evil reptilian aliens, or good aliens vs. bad aliens with humans taking one side or the other.

Yes it is the Yin and Yang, the positive and negative forces which are both necessary in this world.

In truth, the struggle is a struggle for balance between the two because one could not exist without the other although those who participate in the battles are convinced that their survival depends upon defeating their enemy.

These wars are alleged to be going on in the spiritual realm just as Christianity claims the war in "heaven" went on between Michael and Lucifer.

The Urantia book speaks of heavenly wars also. Matrix V by Val Valarian describes it as humans vs aliens mostly, with some good aliens, and some very bad alien controlled humans leading the wars.

It is curious to me how many of these new age cults popped up so quickly and as I check back into them, some are still around, but they have changed. I wonder who started them and why.

I suspect the agenda is the same as the agenda of religion, which manipulates and uses the thoughts and spiritual energy of members to shape reality and keep people confused.

As I explored these paths I remember becoming very frustrated and a little angry by all the conflicting information and all the underlying encouragement to get involved in the struggle against the dark evil forces.

Yet the ones who called themselves the good guys, were just as much into the war as the dark side and encouraged hatred and violence against their enemies.

I feel that there is a struggle between the positive and negative that operates through all the planes and densities all the way into our human reality and that struggle manifests in these different cults and religions and wars.

JB






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Thu 08/07/08 09:27 AM

I see.

I was thinking in terms of humanity as a whole.

This is supposed to be about an individual's stuggle within?

Yin and yang?

I've never seem to have that stuggle myself.

I've always been nonchalant.

I guess I'm a nonchalantist. laugh


All nonchalantist are giong to hell!!!!

















michigan - and it does freeze over in the winter - -you wont like it majik man - brrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!

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Thu 08/07/08 09:32 AM
JB:


It is curious to me how many of these new age cults popped up so quickly and as I check back into them, some are still around, but they have changed. I wonder who started them and why.


Tribo:

CULTS ARE US : new chain book store will be bigger thna waldens soon - laugh flowerforyou

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Thu 08/07/08 09:32 AM
JB:


It is curious to me how many of these new age cults popped up so quickly and as I check back into them, some are still around, but they have changed. I wonder who started them and why.


Tribo:

CULTS ARE US : new chain book store will be bigger thna waldens soon - laugh flowerforyou

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Thu 08/07/08 09:34 AM
JB:


It is curious to me how many of these new age cults popped up so quickly and as I check back into them, some are still around, but they have changed. I wonder who started them and why.


Tribo:

CULTS ARE US : new chain book store will be bigger thna waldens soon - laugh flowerforyou

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Thu 08/07/08 09:57 AM
We can balance only ourselves but the world is around six billions of different heads . How can we balance those who have no balance at all ?.

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Thu 08/07/08 10:08 AM

We can balance only ourselves but the world is around six billions of different heads . How can we balance those who have no balance at all ?.


It is not within our rights to attempt to balance others, or tell others how to live or think.

The best way to contribute to balance is to balance ourselves. That influence will be felt in the collective and it will spread through them. Finding balance within yourself is the first step.

JB

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Fri 08/08/08 09:30 AM
agreed JB, until you have yourself in balance any attempts to move forward with others will give negative results.

as we see on many of the threads here - laugh

but still, the info should be made available so that others are at least aware, it is their choice to move forward with it or negate it - flowerforyou

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Fri 08/08/08 12:31 PM


In the "new age" arena there are said to be two factions who are locked in combat. It is the battle of good and evil you have heard so much about.

The light side calls itself "in service to others"

The "other" side (called the dark side or evil side) is called those who are in "service to self."

Both sides want to destroy the other side. It is the light side against the dark side.

You are told that you must make a choice between the two and join in the battle.

This is not true.

There is the middle path. It is the golden path of balance.

It calls for the destruction of no one. It does not join in the battle.

I am on the middle path of balance. All things, all people, have a light side and a dark side. Balance is required.

Service to others is service to self, as all is connected. If we serve others, we serve the whole and we are part of the whole.

We must balance ourselves and stop trying to destroy each other.

JB



all those are good ideas to take into consideration. the problem with new age is that it has too many sources, that a person can't properly define it.

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Fri 08/08/08 02:09 PM
I agree LW. There are so many different new cults popping up that they seem to have fallen into a category called "new age."

What I get from that description of what "new age" religion is, is that it includes the battle between the dark forces and the light forces. Good and evil. It involves alien type gods who are in a battle for the earth, all of them claiming to be the friend of humankind.

It involves light workers, grid workers, healers, channelers, etc. But its most important aspect is the age old battle of the dark forces against the light forces.

It includes a lot of channeled information. Probably from other dimensional beings, (angels, messengers or aliens, who knows?)

You could even call the Law of Attraction by Esther and Jerry Hicks a new age belief system, except I don't think it has evolved into a religion or cult as far as I know.

JB


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Fri 08/08/08 02:16 PM


In the "new age" arena there are said to be two factions who are locked in combat. It is the battle of good and evil you have heard so much about.

The light side calls itself "in service to others"

The "other" side (called the dark side or evil side) is called those who are in "service to self."

Both sides want to destroy the other side. It is the light side against the dark side.

You are told that you must make a choice between the two and join in the battle.

This is not true.

There is the middle path. It is the golden path of balance.

It calls for the destruction of no one. It does not join in the battle.

I am on the middle path of balance. All things, all people, have a light side and a dark side. Balance is required.

Service to others is service to self, as all is connected. If we serve others, we serve the whole and we are part of the whole.

We must balance ourselves and stop trying to destroy each other.

JB




Not such "new" age thinking, huh?

All that is old is new again...the curse of re-invention...hilarious!

Anyways, JB.... balance is all that there is... in my world...

A surfer knows, there is no wave to be One with, unless one BECOMES the wave and is in balance with it...

and besides, no balance, one is flicked off the board..:wink:

(that applies to all aspects of conscious doings, also)

tribo's photo
Fri 08/08/08 04:58 PM



In the "new age" arena there are said to be two factions who are locked in combat. It is the battle of good and evil you have heard so much about.

The light side calls itself "in service to others"

The "other" side (called the dark side or evil side) is called those who are in "service to self."

Both sides want to destroy the other side. It is the light side against the dark side.

You are told that you must make a choice between the two and join in the battle.

This is not true.

There is the middle path. It is the golden path of balance.

It calls for the destruction of no one. It does not join in the battle.

I am on the middle path of balance. All things, all people, have a light side and a dark side. Balance is required.

Service to others is service to self, as all is connected. If we serve others, we serve the whole and we are part of the whole.

We must balance ourselves and stop trying to destroy each other.

JB




Not such "new" age thinking, huh?

All that is old is new again...the curse of re-invention...hilarious!

Anyways, JB.... balance is all that there is... in my world...

A surfer knows, there is no wave to be One with, unless one BECOMES the wave and is in balance with it...

and besides, no balance, one is flicked off the board..:wink:

(that applies to all aspects of conscious doings, also)


leave it to a surfer to figure out life

laugh flowerforyou

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Sat 08/09/08 04:39 AM


A surfer knows, there is no wave to be One with, unless one BECOMES the wave and is in balance with it...


specially when you are running waves with dolphins, that is a blessing indeed.

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