Previous 1
Topic: Can someone explain?
Redykeulous's photo
Wed 03/14/07 08:30 PM
I spent many years trying to fathom what the Bible says is
incomprehensible - the being God. As I got older it became somewhat
easier as scientifically I could understand what God was NOT. So God
can is without shape and form, without mass, without the burden of
having to survive in the three dimentional world. Then may I ask -

How can God possibly be capable of any Human emotional traits?

hate, love, passion, lust, desire, disgust, anger - etc.

I guess part two to this quesiton is - what about fear?

Duffy's photo
Wed 03/14/07 08:36 PM
you must ask the experts. go to the pope.

mommysangels65's photo
Wed 03/14/07 08:36 PM
That is a great question. I think at one time god felt all these
feelings and he gave them all to us. I think he still can feel through
us. I hope I am at least a little close.

Classyjeff's photo
Wed 03/14/07 08:36 PM
god created us in his image. so in essence he should know all of those
things..

mommysangels65's photo
Wed 03/14/07 08:39 PM
Classyjeff,
That is what I think, he created us and so he had to have the feelings
before.

Redykeulous's photo
Wed 03/14/07 08:52 PM
You're missing the point. Why do "we" have these feelings?
Example: If you could not see, hear, taste, touch, smell, how could
we ever be jealous, how could we ever desire, how could we love, get
angry - for clearly we would have no concept or basis for these
feelings.
So if these attributes are "strictly" human BECAUSE we have human
senses that feed on the three dimentional world, how could a being that
never existed in this form have them?
Be careful lest you cross the forbidden line of "evolution"
unless a god can evolve?

BryanZieroff's photo
Wed 03/14/07 08:56 PM
Well, to be honest only you can answer that question for yourself. If
you think "God" has those feelings then that's what you think.
Personally I think everybody has their own perspective about a master
creator. Basically, picking a religion is like picking your favorite
color. For some people their favorite color is basic (blue, yellow, red,
green, ect.), some like dark, some only like a hint of color, some mix,
and others don't have one at all. No matter what your religion is though
just remember to respect other people and their thoughts, feelings, ect.
So, it's really up to what you think is right in your world and never
push a religion, only suggest what your thoughts are.

mommysangels65's photo
Wed 03/14/07 09:06 PM
Very well said BryanZieroff! We all have to pick the religion that we
are most comfortable with. I have went on a spirtual walk and now I am
looking at what direction I feel god would want me to do. I know I will
find the answers, maybe tomrrow or maybe 5 years from now it just
depends on me and god.

Redykeulous's photo
Wed 03/14/07 09:06 PM
Bryan, what does that have to do with the subject? I'm just trying to
understand what everyone who believes in God already seems to know.
Obviously it has been illusive to me and all I'm looking for is some
answer that makes sense.

GhostWhisperer's photo
Wed 03/14/07 10:46 PM
I am not sure that any reply given by anyone will answer your question.
I know that I am not the one to even attempt it. The best of luck to you
in finding the knowledge you seek.


Cudos to Bryan for a well written response.

Milesoftheusa's photo
Thu 03/15/07 05:11 AM
originally we did not have those traits. when in the garden of eden and
eve and adam ate from the tree of knowledge of good and evil. they then
became aware of many things as they covered up relizing they were naked.
the messiah refers back to this when he spoke of in the beginning it was
not so. then he spoke of being born again not of the seed of adam but of
the most high. cleansing us from theses traits and fears and as a little
child believing that all things are possible that our father in heaven
would give it to us.this would be the holy spirit in us. what we see
though is very few who have the spirit and are born again. but are led
by false shepards who care more about thier pocket book than they do the
word of Yahweh. preachers preach very little they have alot of catch
phrases. but any one reading this look at you newspapers and see what is
going to be preached on and how long. peter called this itchy ears.
saying what the people want to please them. what did moses do when he
came down with the 10 commandments and found that his brother Arron had
allowed the same thing. think about what the bible says and what the
churches are saying and they in no way agree. this is why u have
problems understanding. the human traits come from the father of lies
who creeps in and talks to u double talk as he did eve taking your
blessings from u.

no photo
Thu 03/15/07 06:03 AM
>>> I could understand what God was NOT...How can God possibly be capable of any Human emotional traits?

I see no reason to believe God would have any of those emotions - but I
do see reason for humans to relate to God as if God had those emotions.
Hell, sometimes I catch myself relating to inanimate objects as if they
had emotions (and deliberate, devious plans to conspire against me...
;) )

no photo
Thu 03/15/07 08:02 AM
If anyone could explain GOD as something other than a HUMAN MADE
CONCEPT, there would have been no need to MAKE HIM UP in the first
place!!!

Hotchikita's photo
Thu 03/15/07 08:20 AM
if you read the bible it is written that he is capable of emotions. He
is capable of even jalousie

MikeMontana's photo
Thu 03/15/07 05:18 PM
Emotions are human traits that we use to cope with the fact that we are
"seperated" from Oneness (call it 'God'). God has no needs for
'emotions', 'memories', and so on.

All our 'bad' actions stem from fear. That fear is natural, its by
design (part of our being seperate from God). Some of us can rise above
it, but most of us struggle to stay afloat of our fears which will lead
us into trouble.

We can make the world a hugely better place simply by engaging the fears
of someone else. If we can reach out and soothe a fear, you have made
the world a better place. You're making real the declartion that 'the
kingdom of heaven is at hand'

Redykeulous's photo
Thu 03/15/07 09:37 PM
Sorry it's so late, I just logged in. THANK-YOU EVERYONE for
participating in my discussion. I think you are all brave to have even
commented at all. Just to examine this topic can un-nerve many poeple.
Massagetrade said "I see no reason for God to have any emotions, but I
do see reason for humans to relate to God as if he had those emotions."
Yes exactly, that's is what I have believed for many years. This is one
of the things that led me into another hobby, the psychology of the
human mind. I was not trying to manipiulate that answer, Massage, but I
was wondering if anyone else might see it that way. The I read what
Mike had to say and I saw another perspective. He points out that we
were burdened with these emotions by disobeying God's command and that
we may be able to rise above these by engaging & soothing others fears,
thereby making the kingdom of God close at hand. Very interesting and
thinking about it I can agree, however, only if I add to it by saying
that we need to rise above all our own emotions and do something because
it's right, not because some emotion tells us to. This then puts us on
a logical plane not an emotional one. But still there is the dilema of
love. It is still an emotion and in most of the world it is one we hope
to achieve on a very intimate one on one level. But I can not see that
there can be love without all the other emotions and again as in a catch
22 I'm led back to "how can this Christian God have emotions and still
be God" Then I'm led back to Massagetrade "I do see reason for humans
to relate to God as if he had those emotions." So have we actually
given emotion where none really existis? If love can really exist
without any other emotion, and if God experiences only love, then the
Bible has been misinterpreted, for God has no wrath, no hate, no
jealousy and would NOT punish us, for faults caused the the natural
world we inhabit. Again Mike is right, only man does evil to man and
they do it in the name of the Bible and call it righteous because God
himself has and would cause us harm, and that upholds the reasoning for
God to have emotions, as a manipulative tool for those men who would
lead us to evil.
THANKS ALL - PLEASE COMMENT ANYTIME, LOVE READING ALL OPINIONS.

FedMan's photo
Thu 03/15/07 10:09 PM
God has emotions, the bible tells us this over and over. Also it speaks
of the angels weeping. I don't think you should question these things as
eventually all will be answered. I doubt God has ever felt fear for what
is there for him to fear? He has had anger, and speaks of jealousy over
mankind worshipping idols, and these are also feelings. The answers are
in the bible just read it.

FedMan's photo
Thu 03/15/07 10:13 PM
Bryan? a well written response? Um no picking a religion is not really
like picking a fav color unless there a re a hell of alot of shades of
one color because several religions know the same God, even christian
and the islam religion has the same God. as far as protestant, baptist,
pentecostal, latter day saints are not different religions, but
different denominations.

FedMan's photo
Thu 03/15/07 10:35 PM
oh sorry but I have been dealing with fighting kids forgot to also note
that "Who says feelings are a human/flesh trait?" I think feelings come
from the spirit.

Redykeulous's photo
Thu 03/15/07 10:36 PM
Hi fedman, let me ask you a question, A trusted friend gives you an
open deck of playing cards and says they're all here. He cuts the deck
into two piles. Now you count one pile, let's say it has 25 cards in
it. A full deck hold 52 cards. You can count that stack a million times
and in your mind will you always believe that the other stack holds 27
cards????? So do you believe the person who gave you the deck when
they said this it was a full deck? You will never know unless you count
the other stack. My point, if it were as cut and dry as "just read
the bible", how could there possibly be room for different
interpretations? Obviously we were not given a full deck of cards. Yet
it is counted and counted over and over. Heck we barely read a school
textbook more than once and are expected to take tests and remember it
all. Why should the "truths" of the Bible be so difficult to
interpret, to understand? How could the very same words that poeple
read over and over, cause wars, cause hate, cause evil. Is it not even
worth examining these questions, WITHOUT the very tool that has caused
these problems THAT BOOK?

Previous 1