Topic: Cheneye to dress navy seals as Iranians to provoke war
Rapunzel's photo
Mon 08/11/08 01:52 PM
Edited by Rapunzel on Mon 08/11/08 01:59 PM

the system is running ohwell

slooooooooooower than molasses in winter frown


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madisonman's photo
Mon 08/11/08 02:03 PM
Edited by madisonman on Mon 08/11/08 02:03 PM




And "Cheneye" is WHO???


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I suppose if thats the best you can do, realy if you cant win the argument well lets resort to nit pickinglaugh



who said i would even think
of giving you my best ???? laugh


oh, but the correct spelling of the person

you speak of, is not important to you ???


nit picky , you say ? laugh


huh huh huh huh huh


laugh you call this an argument ??? laugh


huh My, you get your feathers so easily ruffled huh

huh what would you do if something really important came along ???? huh






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Never said they were ruffled but my typing/spelling has little to do with the topic I will be the first to admit I will win no spelling bees anytime soon, now back to uber amerika and its nazi like behaviorsmokin

Rapunzel's photo
Mon 08/11/08 02:38 PM
No thank you.... noway noway noway
anyway...madison man...


words are tools ...drinker

and if you cannot use

them appropriately...flowerforyou

maybe you should put the tools down

and get out of the garage ...drinker


and maybe consider another way of

communication that would suit you better flowerforyou

and if you want to speak drinker

on these forums and elsewhere ...flowerforyou

then consider this ...drinker

happy < hone your skills in proper English > happy





and most importantly ... drinker

i think that if you want to

constantly criticize my Country ...:heart:

the Country that my Family Members

& so many others have fought and died for...sad

the Country that I drinker

and so many others hold

to be extremely sacred & so dear...:heart:


and if you insist on accusing America

of acting like Nazis noway


similar to what <<< Old Sage >>> mentioned ....


maybe you should seriously consider

creating your own country somewhere else...drinker



flowerforyou




madisonman's photo
Mon 08/11/08 02:42 PM
Edited by madisonman on Mon 08/11/08 02:43 PM
I am glad most people do not spend there time correcting typos and spelling errors and its rather sad that I too had family members serve and die for this country, in fact I myself was in the army. I would think those good people would turn in there grave if they knew their lives would be sacrificed so our government could tear up the bill of rights and violate the geneva conventions and commit war crimes. Some will choose to live in a dream world and live in denial I see it for what it is and I am ashameddrinker

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Mon 08/11/08 07:01 PM
Edited by Rapunzel on Mon 08/11/08 07:29 PM
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I am glad most people do not spend there time correcting typos and spelling errors and its rather sad that I too had family members serve and die for this country, in fact I myself was in the army. I would think those good people would turn in there grave if they knew their lives would be sacrificed so our government could tear up the bill of rights and violate the geneva conventions and commit war crimes. Some will choose to live in a dream world and live in denial I see it for what it is and I am ashameddrinker


well, madison man...drinker

many people just don't know how to spell
or use words correctly

so someone who is not good at that sort of thing,
most likely will not see the errors,


but constructive criticism says
that if a person wants to host threads
and be a speaker ...

then i would think that it is essential
that you should get good, at what you like to do happy


i have a clue as to what is important...drinker

i am not insensitive at all noway

and
i wasn't criticising your inner core...noway

thank you for being in the Army drinker

and i am thankful flowerforyou
for your family who died in the wars....drinker

in no way do i want to live in denial noway
i do know there are unscrupulous things :cry:
that go on, even in our own country, sad
but i try to have faith & hope flowerforyou
that goodness shall prevail...drinker



madisonman's photo
Mon 08/11/08 07:18 PM
and most people over look typing and spelling errors and focus on the topic unless of course they cannot make a realistic argument that is logical. Maybe you should just leave my threads alone if it bothers you so much eh? But I would prefer you stay on topic in my threads. Sorry your not able to see how "unamerican" our country has become but I am sure over time it will beging to sink in :wink:

Rapunzel's photo
Mon 08/11/08 07:24 PM
Edited by Rapunzel on Mon 08/11/08 07:25 PM

and most people over look typing and spelling errors and focus on the topic unless of course they cannot make a realistic argument that is logical. Maybe you should just leave my threads alone if it bothers you so much eh? But I would prefer you stay on topic in my threads. Sorry your not able to see how "unamerican" our country has become but I am sure over time it will beging to sink in :wink:


do you not respond well to kindness ? flowerforyou

i guess so...frown


most people ???huh
have you taken a survey to back up your claim? flowerforyou


and please don't accuse me of not seeing
how unAmerican our country has become

i am not blind...noway

it just appears to me that i just choose drinker

to have more faith & hope than you do ...flowerforyou



try to have good night Madison Man...drinker

Zapchaser's photo
Mon 08/11/08 07:25 PM

and most people over look typing and spelling errors and focus on the topic unless of course they cannot make a realistic argument that is logical. Maybe you should just leave my threads alone if it bothers you so much eh? But I would prefer you stay on topic in my threads. Sorry your not able to see how "unamerican" our country has become but I am sure over time it will beging to sink in :wink:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFQyib5ZQZY

madisonman's photo
Mon 08/11/08 07:25 PM
your kindess is as fake as your reality darling you have a good night too flowerforyou

Rapunzel's photo
Mon 08/11/08 07:28 PM

your kindess is as fake as your reality darling you have a good night too flowerforyou



there is nothing fake about me, madison man flowerforyou

and i will have a very good night, thank you drinker


Rapunzel's photo
Mon 08/11/08 07:32 PM


and most people over look typing and spelling errors and focus on the topic unless of course they cannot make a realistic argument that is logical. Maybe you should just leave my threads alone if it bothers you so much eh? But I would prefer you stay on topic in my threads. Sorry your not able to see how "unamerican" our country has become but I am sure over time it will beging to sink in :wink:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFQyib5ZQZY




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Zapchaser's photo
Mon 08/11/08 07:34 PM

your kindess is as fake as your reality darling you have a good night too flowerforyou

Now THERE is a classic case of the pot calling the kettle black. laugh

Rapunzel's photo
Mon 08/11/08 07:34 PM
Edited by Rapunzel on Mon 08/11/08 07:37 PM
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Mon 08/11/08 07:35 PM
So about those navy seals Cheney was willing to sacrafice so we could kill more people................. true or false? the ramblings of a mad man who happens to have won the pullitzer prize? Or just another long list of war crimes from the neocons?

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Mon 08/11/08 07:40 PM
To all those scoffing at the headline, Seymour Hersh is no lightweight. After exposing the My Lai massacre during the Vietnam conflict in 1969 he received the 1970 Pulitzer Prize for International Reporting. He also wrote reports in 2004 regarding the mistreatment of detainees at Abu Ghraib prison which gained much recognition.

The fact that we’re hearing these kind of stories coming from reputable reporters like Hersh and not just the likes of Alex Jones, should be a wake up call to moderates who find it hard to believe that such clandestine and repugnant operations actually occur.

Speaking at the Campus Progress journalism conference earlier this month, Seymour Hersh - a Pulitzer-Prize winning journalist for The New Yorker - revealed that Bush administration officials held a meeting recently in the Vice President's office to discuss ways to provoke a war with Iran.

In Hersh's most recent article, he reports that this meeting occurred in the wake of the overblown incident in the Strait of Hormuz, when a U.S. carrier almost shot at a few small Iranian speedboats. The "meeting took place in the Vice-President's office. 'The subject was how to create a casus belli between Tehran and Washington,'" according to one of Hersh's sources.

During the journalism conference event, I asked Hersh specifically about this meeting and if he could elaborate on what occurred. Hersh explained that, during the meeting in Cheney's office, an idea was considered to dress up Navy Seals as Iranians, put them on fake Iranian speedboats, and shoot at them. This idea, intended to provoke an Iran war, was ultimately rejected:

HERSH: There was a dozen ideas proffered about how to trigger a war. The one that interested me the most was why don't we build - we in our shipyard - build four or five boats that look like Iranian PT boats. Put Navy seals on them with a lot of arms. And next time one of our boats goes to the Straits of Hormuz, start a shoot-up.

Might cost some lives. And it was rejected because you can't have Americans killing Americans. That's the kind of - that's the level of stuff we're talking about. Provocation. But that was rejected.

Hersh argued that one of the things the Bush administration learned during the encounter in the Strait of Hormuz was that, "if you get the right incident, the American public will support" it.

"Look, is it high school? Yeah," Hersh said. "Are we playing high school with you know 5,000 nuclear warheads in our arsenal? Yeah we are. We're playing, you know, who's the first guy to run off the highway with us and Iran." http://current.com/items/89178696_cheney_considered_proposal_to_dress_up_navy_seals_as_iranians_and_shoot_at_them?xid=216

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Mon 08/11/08 07:41 PM

So about those navy seals Cheney was willing to sacrafice so we could kill more people................. true or false? the ramblings of a mad man who happens to have won the pullitzer prize? Or just another long list of war crimes from the neocons?

I vote for ramblings of a liar being quoted by a liar for the reason of perpetuating the lie.:wink:

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Mon 08/11/08 07:46 PM


So about those navy seals Cheney was willing to sacrafice so we could kill more people................. true or false? the ramblings of a mad man who happens to have won the pullitzer prize? Or just another long list of war crimes from the neocons?

I vote for ramblings of a liar being quoted by a liar for the reason of perpetuating the lie.:wink:
July 31, 2008 - Speaking at the Campus Progress journalism conference earlier this month, Seymour Hersh - a Pulitzer-Prize winning journalist for The New Yorker - revealed that Bush administration officials held a meeting recently in the Vice President's office to discuss ways to provoke a war with Iran.

In Hersh's most recent article, he reports that this meeting occurred in the wake of the overblown incident in the Strait of Hormuz, when a U.S. carrier almost shot at a few small Iranian speedboats. The "meeting took place in the Vice-President's office. 'The subject was how to create a casus belli between Tehran and Washington,'" according to one of Hersh's sources.

During the journalism conference event, I asked Hersh specifically about this meeting and if he could elaborate on what occurred. Hersh explained that, during the meeting in Cheney's office, an idea was considered to dress up Navy Seals as Iranians, put them on fake Iranian speedboats, and shoot at them. This idea, intended to provoke an Iran war, was ultimately rejected:

http://www.veteransforcommonsense.org/index.cfm/page/article/id/10822

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Mon 08/11/08 07:48 PM



So about those navy seals Cheney was willing to sacrafice so we could kill more people................. true or false? the ramblings of a mad man who happens to have won the pullitzer prize? Or just another long list of war crimes from the neocons?

I vote for ramblings of a liar being quoted by a liar for the reason of perpetuating the lie.:wink:
July 31, 2008 - Speaking at the Campus Progress journalism conference earlier this month, Seymour Hersh - a Pulitzer-Prize winning journalist for The New Yorker - revealed that Bush administration officials held a meeting recently in the Vice President's office to discuss ways to provoke a war with Iran.

In Hersh's most recent article, he reports that this meeting occurred in the wake of the overblown incident in the Strait of Hormuz, when a U.S. carrier almost shot at a few small Iranian speedboats. The "meeting took place in the Vice-President's office. 'The subject was how to create a casus belli between Tehran and Washington,'" according to one of Hersh's sources.

During the journalism conference event, I asked Hersh specifically about this meeting and if he could elaborate on what occurred. Hersh explained that, during the meeting in Cheney's office, an idea was considered to dress up Navy Seals as Iranians, put them on fake Iranian speedboats, and shoot at them. This idea, intended to provoke an Iran war, was ultimately rejected:

http://www.veteransforcommonsense.org/index.cfm/page/article/id/10822

I vote for ramblings of a liar being quoted by a liar for the reason of perpetuating the lie. :wink:

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Mon 08/11/08 07:53 PM
Edited by Rapunzel on Mon 08/11/08 07:55 PM


So about those navy seals Cheney was willing to sacrafice so we could kill more people................. true or false? the ramblings of a mad man who happens to have won the pullitzer prize? Or just another long list of war crimes from the neocons?

I vote for ramblings of a liar being quoted by a liar for the reason of perpetuating the lie.:wink:



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Mon 08/11/08 07:57 PM



So about those navy seals Cheney was willing to sacrafice so we could kill more people................. true or false? the ramblings of a mad man who happens to have won the pullitzer prize? Or just another long list of war crimes from the neocons?

I vote for ramblings of a liar being quoted by a liar for the reason of perpetuating the lie.:wink:



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