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With that frame of mind, you could also say that its not the natives either, but the animals land first. Which would mean....WE GET A STATE FOR CATS! Which i would totally move too lol i second that  
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Edited by
Dragoness
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Fri 07/25/08 02:47 PM
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With that frame of mind, you could also say that its not the natives either, but the animals land first. Which would mean....WE GET A STATE FOR CATS! Which i would totally move too lol Well and if we are going that way then the dinosaurs or whoever came before them too. I think we should stay with the start of man if we are going to lay the blame of the animalisticness of man on his own shoulders, hmmmm??? |
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With that frame of mind, you could also say that its not the natives either, but the animals land first. Which would mean....WE GET A STATE FOR CATS! Which i would totally move too lol Well and if we are going that way then the dinosaurs or whoever came before them too. I think we should stay with the start of man if we are going to lay the blame of the animalisticness of man on his own shoulders, hmmmm??? Dragoness, don't destroy my dream of having a nation run by cats. They could do a better job than the current ones. 
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God according to gospel gave us the earth and all that is in it...we are to be good stewards to what He has put in our path.. Are you just *****in' or do you have a cure for this situation?  did you read the post properly? i think not.
yep quit dwelling on the past and live for the future Lesson learned in the past are the key to a successful future. And I am sure god did not mean that we should kill each other off either in the process of stewarding the land, right? lol
nothing wrong with studing the past and learning from it but to dwell on the injustices of the past and expecting retribution for those injustices (when does it stop) learn from your mistakes and avoid repeating them but do not expect to recieve something for what was done to an ancestor because the one that did it is no longer here neither to dwell on the injustices of the past promotes extreme prejudice can anyone say middle east (a perfect example) |
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Actually the natives on the American continent had no concept of land ownership, that is a European tradition.
If was no ownership, then there can be no theft. One cannot steal that which isn't possessed. What was actually done was a destruction of a food supply and a restriction on travel. There were more than several broken treaties and more than a few forced marches. There was the use of germ warfare. A general ban on religion and speech (only the native ones though, christian and english were fine). Oh, and there was the slaughter of women and children. Other than that, I think the U.S. government was pretty much so blameless. |
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Other than that, I think the U.S. government was pretty much so blameless. if someone takes away your right and freedom that is enough to cause a war, nevermind the conept of ownnership. but this post was just a reminder for those who think that this world belongs to them only, not to fix the past.
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The world DOES belong to me damnit! I'm the king of the world!
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What exactly is this post about again????
In my own defense, my ancestors had nothing to do with stealin the US from the native americans. My irish ancestors came over durin the great migration in the ealy 1900's. However my french ancestors may have had something to do with taking land in Canada away from the Iriqiuos. They married into that tribe. So therefore I think I am owed reporations and yet I need to send a check somewhere also. Who do I make it out to?? Myself????? |
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Gee I would love to point out the obvious joke that could follow the cats post.
A country run by and for, starts with a p, five letters, ends with a y. Okay...board mods will likely hate this post. |
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What exactly is this post about again???? In my own defense, my ancestors had nothing to do with stealin the US from the native americans. My irish ancestors came over durin the great migration in the ealy 1900's. However my french ancestors may have had something to do with taking land in Canada away from the Iriqiuos. They married into that tribe. So therefore I think I am owed reporations and yet I need to send a check somewhere also. Who do I make it out to?? Myself?????
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Gee I would love to point out the obvious joke that could follow the cats post. A country run by and for, starts with a p, five letters, ends with a y. Okay...board mods will likely hate this post.
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God according to gospel gave us the earth and all that is in it...we are to be good stewards to what He has put in our path.. Are you just *****in' or do you have a cure for this situation? did you read the post properly? i think not.
yep quit dwelling on the past and live for the future Lesson learned in the past are the key to a successful future. And I am sure god did not mean that we should kill each other off either in the process of stewarding the land, right? lol
nothing wrong with studing the past and learning from it but to dwell on the injustices of the past and expecting retribution for those injustices (when does it stop) learn from your mistakes and avoid repeating them but do not expect to recieve something for what was done to an ancestor because the one that did it is no longer here neither to dwell on the injustices of the past promotes extreme prejudice can anyone say middle east (a perfect example) In order to really understand the injustice of what a people do to another people, first they must stand in their shoes and FEEL the pain, frustration, suffering, etc... of those oppressed people and then only then can the oppressors really understand the lesson to be learned. Obviously, the "white man" of this country has yet to learn this lesson. This country finds a "people" to oppress every chance it gets. The lesson has yet to be learned. |
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this land you live on, this country you live was never yours or mine, we are children of immigrants and will always be. much of the land was stolden from the natives and yet to be paid for. we come from a generation of thieves, most of us.
I HEAR THAT!!!!!!!!!! We DID indeed STEAL it from the NATIVE AMERICANS - hence the NATIVE - they were here first, and we immigrants "corraled" them - onto specific sectors of land and WE HAD ABSOLUTELY NO RIGHT TO DO SO.......... My daughter is Blackfoot or Black Crow, I forget which, but am proud to say that her great grandma was pureblood from the Arcadia reservation........ 
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Edited by
adj4u
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Fri 07/25/08 04:51 PM
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until mankind realizes that mankind belongs to the world and not the other way around there will always be issues such as these
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Actually the natives on the American continent had no concept of land ownership, that is a European tradition. If was no ownership, then there can be no theft. One cannot steal that which isn't possessed. What was actually done was a destruction of a food supply and a restriction on travel. There were more than several broken treaties and more than a few forced marches. There was the use of germ warfare. A general ban on religion and speech (only the native ones though, christian and english were fine). Oh, and there was the slaughter of women and children. Other than that, I think the U.S. government was pretty much so blameless. |
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Edited by
adj4u
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Fri 07/25/08 05:17 PM
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Actually the natives on the American continent had no concept of land ownership, that is a European tradition. If was no ownership, then there can be no theft. One cannot steal that which isn't possessed. What was actually done was a destruction of a food supply and a restriction on travel. There were more than several broken treaties and more than a few forced marches. There was the use of germ warfare. A general ban on religion and speech (only the native ones though, christian and english were fine). Oh, and there was the slaughter of women and children. Other than that, I think the U.S. government was pretty much so blameless. anyone that thinks they know what really happened are only kidding themselves there is plenty of blame to go around if you wanna play the blame game it is best to look at the past as tho not to make the same mistakes and also to plan for the future ad to make the world a better place to live and live in the present not blaming your neighbor for what has happened in the past because they were not there and neither were you can't we all just get along 
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Edited by
Fanta46
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Fri 07/25/08 05:03 PM
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You are absolutely right and because the natives here were not as savage as the occupyers, they were nearly obliterated and placed in their designated areas. The People occupying this continent when Europeans arrived were largely fractured dragoness. They were fractured by years of wars and were very savage. What they did, not only to whites, during their wars shocked an appalled the Europeans. Thus the word savages was applied. They practiced slavery too. |
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being half native myself ,i think its time to stop blaming whitey for your misfortunes and move on.
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being half native myself ,i think its time to stop blaming whitey for your misfortunes and move on.
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So what's your point?
Mine would be that in today's day & age there is no reason why people can't live in peace & pursue their own happiness. Where it's the protestants & catholics in Ireland... ... or the Jews & Muslims in the mid east... ...or left & right in America... which, BTW, native Americans are part of. Maybe people like yourself are part of the problem ..instead of us all uniting for common causes like jobs & getting our nation back to being the land of prosperity for ALL, people want to fight about our diffeence instead. Those in power win we they divide us. Yu think? |
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