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Topic: HAMAS
s1owhand Joined Fri 05/18/07 Posts: 29437	Mon 07/21/08 06:02 PM
it seems that groups that must call terrorist. or called bye other people freedom fighters, i don't call the IRA terrorist's all how you look at life. Nonsense. if bombing buses, cafes, and markets *intentionally* while training operatives to maximize civilian casualties is not terrorism then i'd like to know what you think IS terrorism. whoo boy! having policies which promote suicide bombings, hijacking, using planes as weapons (loaded with passengers), kidnapping, teaching religious hatred etc... as for Fanta's comment about the source of the article by the ADL - the truth is the truth. and the truth shall set you free. i believe the ADL article is true.

01tim Joined Thu 07/03/08 Posts: 721	Mon 07/21/08 06:10 PM
no not nonsense, it all and how you look at the world. i look at the israel government as murders, they kill kids for throwing rocks. then when the Muslim strike back. israel is the first one to cry about it, its an eye for an eye,

sam53 Joined Wed 03/12/08 Posts: 2073	Mon 07/21/08 06:14 PM
terrorist!!!!!!!!!!!! Israel is a terrorist too . Two wrong do not make one right .

01tim Joined Thu 07/03/08 Posts: 721	Mon 07/21/08 06:16 PM
no i agree, its always poor israel. no one every says anything about the Muslim they kill everyday.

sam53 Joined Wed 03/12/08 Posts: 2073	Mon 07/21/08 06:19 PM
no i agree, its always poor Israel. no one every says anything about the Muslim they kill everyday. Because the Zionists have power and control America including the media .

01tim Joined Thu 07/03/08 Posts: 721	Mon 07/21/08 06:22 PM
yes they do if you disagree your a jew hater.

sam53 Joined Wed 03/12/08 Posts: 2073	Mon 07/21/08 06:36 PM
yes they do if you disagree your a Jew hater. This is another conspiracy to silence people .

Oceans5555 Joined Tue 04/10/07 Posts: 1171	Mon 07/21/08 06:40 PM
We dropped bombs on two cities killing 100s of thousands of innocent people. I would like you to call the vets that lived thru it terrorists. Innocent people get killed everyday in every aspects of life. With Israel its about land that goes back to biblical times. I beleive if you read the bible god killed 1000s of people. Are you gonna put him on your list too? You can't really have it both ways.... If killing innocent civilians is the mark of a terrorist, then HAMAS, Israel and the US are all terrorist organizations. If Israel is fighting to protect itself, so is HAMAS. The land of Palestine has existed LONG before the times described in the Bible. Oceans

01tim Joined Thu 07/03/08 Posts: 721	Mon 07/21/08 06:42 PM
ocean is a wise man.

sam53 Joined Wed 03/12/08 Posts: 2073	Mon 07/21/08 06:43 PM
We dropped bombs on two cities killing 100s of thousands of innocent people. I would like you to call the vets that lived thru it terrorists. Innocent people get killed everyday in every aspects of life. With Israel its about land that goes back to biblical times. I beleive if you read the bible god killed 1000s of people. Are you gonna put him on your list too? You can't really have it both ways.... If killing innocent civilians is the mark of a terrorist, then HAMAS, Israel and the US are all terrorist organizations. If Israel is fighting to protect itself, so is HAMAS. The land of Palestine has existed LONG before the times described in the Bible. Oceans Did we forget logic ?. This is logic at its best .

Oceans5555 Joined Tue 04/10/07 Posts: 1171	Mon 07/21/08 06:52 PM
it seems that groups that must call terrorist. or called bye other people freedom fighters, i don't call the IRA terrorist's all how you look at life. Nonsense. if bombing buses, cafes, and markets *intentionally* while training operatives to maximize civilian casualties is not terrorism then i'd like to know what you think IS terrorism. whoo boy! having policies which promote suicide bombings, hijacking, using planes as weapons (loaded with passengers), kidnapping, teaching religious hatred etc... as for Fanta's comment about the source of the article by the ADL - the truth is the truth. and the truth shall set you free. i believe the ADL article is true. Before 'believing' ADL, you might choose to do some more balanced research, Stowhand. ADL is 100% committed to Israel and Zionism. There are many pro-Israeli sites, some pro-Palestinian ones, and many sources that depict the conflict in more balanced terms. The Wikipedia articles are quite good, as introductory materials go. HAMAS's "main" activity is not terrorism, but social services. Terrorism can be characterized as a secondary activity. It is the social services that make HAMAS so popular among the Palestians who are being starved and deprived of such basics as cooking oil, electricity, water, and medical supplies by the Israeli military and border blockade. Oceans

Oceans5555 Joined Tue 04/10/07 Posts: 1171	Mon 07/21/08 06:54 PM
ocean is a wise man. Thanks, I wish I were. Oceans

01tim Joined Thu 07/03/08 Posts: 721	Mon 07/21/08 06:56 PM
well thanks. but it seem now a days if you dont agree with our government. your antiamerican.

Oceans5555 Joined Tue 04/10/07 Posts: 1171	Mon 07/21/08 07:05 PM
Hmmmm.... Who is more patriotic, the person whose allegiance is the country as a whole, or the person who uses power to favor an interest group over the interests of the country as a whole? Who is more patriotic, the person who is willing to be critical of what his country does when it errs down the wrong path, or the person who blindly supports whatever political leadership is in power? Who is more patriotic, the person who engages in reasoned discussion with those who differ with him, or the person who attacks and insults and dismisses the thoughts of those with whom he disagrees? Oceans

01tim Joined Thu 07/03/08 Posts: 721	Mon 07/21/08 07:08 PM
i have red of this in your history books. America was founding buy outlaw whom spoke up for what they believe in, but at times today it seems if your not with them. your with the terrorist. i have lived in USA 43 years not perfect. but pretty good.

Oceans5555 Joined Tue 04/10/07 Posts: 1171	Mon 07/21/08 07:11 PM
Yes, I'm glad you feel welcome here. We do have a pretty good country. We are in a period of difficulty now, but we will emerge OK. A lot depends on this election, of course. We will recover far faster with Obama than McCain, I feel pretty certain. Oceans

01tim Joined Thu 07/03/08 Posts: 721	Mon 07/21/08 07:13 PM
as for me i try not to say bad things about mccain. to me he is a real American hero. i may not agree with his views on life.

Oceans5555 Joined Tue 04/10/07 Posts: 1171	Mon 07/21/08 07:14 PM
Being a hero does not necessarily make someone a wise person....

01tim Joined Thu 07/03/08 Posts: 721	Mon 07/21/08 07:15 PM
you have good night. hope all is well. finish your work. it happens to the best of us.

Fanta46 Joined Sat 11/11/06 Posts: 29361	Mon 07/21/08 07:55 PM
it seems that groups that must call terrorist. or called bye other people freedom fighters, i don't call the IRA terrorist's all how you look at life. Nonsense. if bombing buses, cafes, and markets *intentionally* while training operatives to maximize civilian casualties is not terrorism then i'd like to know what you think IS terrorism. whoo boy! having policies which promote suicide bombings, hijacking, using planes as weapons (loaded with passengers), kidnapping, teaching religious hatred etc... as for Fanta's comment about the source of the article by the ADL - the truth is the truth. and the truth shall set you free. i believe the ADL article is true. Slowhand, if bombing buses, cafes, and markets *intentionally* while training operatives to maximize civilian casualties is not terrorism then i'd like to know what you think IS terrorism. I agree and that is what the Irgun and The Stern gangs did. The Stern Gang committed over 42 assassinations, half of them Jewish. They were known to send off mail bombs and assassinated a UN moderator who was sent to help reach a deal in establishing two separate countries in Palestine. They even negotiated with the Nazis! Yitzhak Shamir, who would later become the Israeli PM, was a leader of this Gang. They were listed as a terrorist organization and many of their members were hung by the British! Their crimes include bank robbery, assassination of British soldiers, foreign diplomats and civilians, bombings of cafe's and at least 10 massacres of Arab women and children. (ie- lining them up and shooting them in cold-blood) Their crimes are way to numerous to mention and date back to 1920. Before their was a Jewish State!