Topic: pride in your home land.
RoamingOrator's photo
Tue 07/15/08 03:36 PM
Gotta love old guys, if your younger you don't know sh*7.

Hmm, lessee this greatest generation thing has gone far enough. The answered when Uncle Sam called yes, and I applaud them for that. Uncle Sam hasn't asked anyone to go since the 1970's. So if I choose not to serve that doesn't make me any less a contributer. I suppose by your rational all the f4 men that worked in factories, or the farmers that stayed home to grow cotton and hemp, also did nothing to contribute to the saftey and well being of our nation.

What about those that died in the 1800's did those generations die for nothing in your opinions? Do we not owe those people for our freedoms? When you get off your high horse and look around the bottom for a while, you'll see this country is coming apart. Oh, there are those that are doing well, but we have not great tasks or challenges ahead. Our goverment stopped trying to inspire it's people.

Don't blame the younger generation for their apathy. You want to know how they got it. They learned it from the older generation. They saw how their parents and grandparents complained but did nothing, so now they do the same. Oh, by the way, the kid's you are so willing to bash, will be paying your social security, assuming when they are in congress, they decide to fund it.

FearandLoathing's photo
Tue 07/15/08 05:49 PM


Have you ever been to those other countrys..I have and you should count your blessings. Is america f****up? Yes but it can be changed.


You are able to post comments on hear because you are in america.


And your point? This is a privately owned site, it is not jurisdicted by a government. You can post comments here if you are from Canada, Mexico, Africa, UK, China, Japan, Russia, and Ukraine...your point is not true.



Dont bust these kids bubbles templer.
They earned a right to be complacent and take America for granted!

They have relatives who fought FOR them. Aint one generation enough?
They've been helping the economy for years too.
Hell, just last week they bought a new playstation game with their allowance!


Oh so I suppose I should just bow to the great supremacy that is this nation? I shouldn't question when the middle-class is being taken and traded in for either rich or poor? When jobs are continously selling to offshore companies, I need not say something? I work for my money, I don't take this country for granted but it is by far not this high-horse most of you make it out too be...and how many of you have marched to your governer's house? How many letter's of interest have you sent off to the President? How many times have you raised your voice and gave your opinion...as far as I can see for the most part you lot complain in the forums of what we should do...

01tim's photo
Tue 07/15/08 05:52 PM
i think I'm just like most people in America. but the only different is i could never be president. I'm proud of my Russian family. i could never turn my back on my family. i might not agree with communist. but after all they are my blood.

RoamingOrator's photo
Wed 07/16/08 05:57 AM

i think I'm just like most people in America. but the only different is i could never be president. I'm proud of my Russian family. i could never turn my back on my family. i might not agree with communist. but after all they are my blood.


You are right to be proud of your Russian heritage. Don't let the narrow-minded view of the "love it or leave it" set bother you. These same people have no problem when the Irish have St. Patrick's Day Parades,and will go down and join the Germans at Octoberfest.

This is just a Racist hold-over from the cold war. We were trained to think that Russia was an evil empire, much like we are doing to the Arab world today. Those of us with open eyes and minds say "be proud of who you are, where you came from, and the person it made you." You can be a proud Russian and a proud American at the same time, it's part of our melting-pot heritage. Apparently some people have just forgotten that.

atleedagod's photo
Wed 07/16/08 06:09 AM
outta curiousity how the **** do you 'feel' american? n aint nothing wrong with havin pride in your home

irartguy's photo
Wed 07/16/08 06:57 AM

please some one tell me what you think. as a small kid. i was four years old. i moved to USA. from Ukraine. so after 43 years in America, i still consider myself a Russia, is there anything wrong with take pride in your country.


I don't see how one can be proud of something he/she has not accomplished. One can be proud of winning an award, placing first, or bettering one's self -- but certainly one cannnot be proud of having been coincidentally born on some proportioned chunk of dry land. Patriotism and nationalism have a tendency to muffle reality -- and this goes for all countries.

01tim's photo
Wed 07/16/08 07:13 AM
thanks RoamingOrator . for your kindness

no photo
Wed 07/16/08 11:18 AM

please some one tell me what you think. as a small kid. i was four years old. i moved to USA. from Ukraine. so after 43 years in America, i still consider myself a Russia, is there anything wrong with take pride in your country.


I lived most of my life in the US...never stopped considering my self Argentine, or living as an Argentine in a foreign country and now I am back in my home land, happy and proud to have never given up on my heritage or sold out to the "American way of life"...waving

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Wed 07/16/08 11:23 AM


please some one tell me what you think. as a small kid. i was four years old. i moved to USA. from Ukraine. so after 43 years in America, i still consider myself a Russia, is there anything wrong with take pride in your country.


I don't see how one can be proud of something he/she has not accomplished. One can be proud of winning an award, placing first, or bettering one's self -- but certainly one cannnot be proud of having been coincidentally born on some proportioned chunk of dry land. Patriotism and nationalism have a tendency to muffle reality -- and this goes for all countries.


ooo...well put, here, here....:thumbsup:

Fanta46's photo
Wed 07/16/08 12:37 PM
Edited by Fanta46 on Wed 07/16/08 12:40 PM

Gotta love old guys, if your younger you don't know sh*7.

Hmm, lessee this greatest generation thing has gone far enough. The answered when Uncle Sam called yes, and I applaud them for that. Uncle Sam hasn't asked anyone to go since the 1970's. So if I choose not to serve that doesn't make me any less a contributer. I suppose by your rational all the f4 men that worked in factories, or the farmers that stayed home to grow cotton and hemp, also did nothing to contribute to the saftey and well being of our nation.

What about those that died in the 1800's did those generations die for nothing in your opinions? Do we not owe those people for our freedoms? When you get off your high horse and look around the bottom for a while, you'll see this country is coming apart. Oh, there are those that are doing well, but we have not great tasks or challenges ahead. Our goverment stopped trying to inspire it's people.

Don't blame the younger generation for their apathy. You want to know how they got it. They learned it from the older generation. They saw how their parents and grandparents complained but did nothing, so now they do the same. Oh, by the way, the kid's you are so willing to bash, will be paying your social security, assuming when they are in congress, they decide to fund it.


They didnt learn it from me or my friends and family!
We gave back to this country, and have taught our children to never take their priviledged American citizenship for granted!
It is a right passed down by sacrifice from generation to generation. If the younger generation learned to be complacent and take this right for granted from their parents then shame on them.
Thank goodness and American pride, that trait is not common among todays youth, or this country would be destined to cease to exist!

01tim's photo
Wed 07/16/08 12:43 PM
i enjoy my life in America, its good. but i wont forget my homeland. it always seem funny, that people say usa is great, but have never left. kind of funny wonder if any buddy on here nos how people in europe feel about America. its not good. but mostly they don't like bush, they like American people. they say bush is arrogant.. which is not far from the truth.

no photo
Wed 07/16/08 12:46 PM
I am proud of my Irish heritage, but I am a third generation American. I am not always proud of the US but I love it. My ancestors left europe & came here for a reason. I just don't love the way the goverment is (not) working.

Fanta46's photo
Wed 07/16/08 12:49 PM
Edited by Fanta46 on Wed 07/16/08 12:50 PM
I spent 2 1/2 yrs in Europe, and all of us called America the world. We couldn't wait to get back here. There is nowhere in the world like it or that offers as much!

01tim's photo
Wed 07/16/08 12:49 PM
be careful. some American will tell you love it or leave it. must American people are fine. of course we got the brainwashed neocons. who think we should bow for bush.

Fanta46's photo
Wed 07/16/08 12:53 PM

be careful. some American will tell you love it or leave it. must American people are fine. of course we got the brainwashed neocons. who think we should bow for bush.


There is nothing wrong with being proud of your heritage tim.

Judging from the conversations with your family that you shared, I think you are more American than you realize though.

Fanta46's photo
Wed 07/16/08 12:54 PM
We all come from somewhere else originally. That is why America is called the melting Pot of the world!drinker

01tim's photo
Wed 07/16/08 12:55 PM
yes fanta your right. i have been here so long. but like every place, there's good and bad, but your right. i have been spoil here in America, red/ white and/ blue rules.

no photo
Wed 07/16/08 01:07 PM
Edited by littleredhen on Wed 07/16/08 01:08 PM
My hopes for my country.

I hope that the current economic situation will give Americans the chance to see that they can be happy without frivolous spending. I hope it inspires people to think of better solutions for energy, transportation,feeding thier families & housing. I hope people start to see the far reaching consequences of choices we make every day. I hope it gives people who have been responsable with money & credit a chance to buy a home or start a business when prices finnally level.
I hope we can hold on our independece & rebuild our industries. I hope we can become a good nieghbor without trying to control the whole neighborhood (planet).
If people will start to CARE this country can continue to be what our ancestors came here seeking.

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Wed 07/16/08 01:08 PM

please some one tell me what you think. as a small kid. i was four years old. i moved to USA. from Ukraine. so after 43 years in America, i still consider myself a Russia, is there anything wrong with take pride in your country.



i think that you know fully well that there is nothing wrong with having pride on your country so your hypothetical question is just to gain some kind of warranted or unwarranted sympathy. your heart is in russia because your family is there, perhaps you felt robbed as a child of growing up in your home country and you are still angry at this deprived childhood so you hold on to memories of russia with all your heart. this is quite normal and its ok to feel this way.

however, your antagonism about america is truly a loss for you because you are a true disapora and you cannot feel truly at home. sometimes we have to let go of the past and work with the future, america does not have all the answers, no one has but you have to lift your chin up and work with the future, your future. you can never bring back the years no matter how many faults you find with america. as for your antagonism, well, if the russia was so great then you would not be here today so be grateful for what you have. millions of russians would bribe anyone to gain entry to the usa and here you are showing or having antognastic feelings all your life about the country that cares for you (i say this with some hesitation) if you were in trouble the security here would help you more than the russians would, i think i know that much.

goodluck and cheer up. let go of the past and move with the future.flowerforyou

01tim's photo
Wed 07/16/08 01:10 PM
my hope for America. i just wish some people would see outside the USA, and see there are other places. not complaining about USA. i just wish these neocons would see the world.