Thank you Spider.

I want to try and read him, but he does himself no favours

I would like to know why you cannot write a decent english language sentence.

HMMM?? - you know what, again i see that it's useless, your so sucked into futurist teachings, you can see no other. and this makes sense, seeing as it started and grew before any of you even became christians. unless you had a reason to read a non bias book on Darby's beginnings and life, scofields background also and got to the core of what futurism is all about, your stuck where you are and evidently very happy and cozy with your system.

Therefore it is pointless for me to bring up any other information or discussion material, nor am i going to unless M2 starts a spiritual forum i suggested to them. That is the only way people will have a "choice" to even investigate as to other things held by christians other than your futurist forum here. And since that will probably not take place seeing how some of M2 may be christians or for other unknown reasons or lack of desire period.

So all here can believe what they will and do as they may as always. Continue on in your secret cult activities that can be know not by just being a christian, but being filled with an other dimensional being to guide you in your truths and thinking that others who also claim to have this "same" being within them also are incorrect as to your "taught" machinations of man's deceits. I don't care, it just isn't worth the time or effort, nor should i care, ultimately your both wrong anyway, I will leave you to your selves to argue among yourselves over every jot and tittle in your book, trying to become king of the hill. Those with the true truth that's truer than all others true truth's that your fragmented body continues to spout forth.. What a game. What a deception.

Morningsong, Hello? Is anybody in there?

This is not about preaching. Tribo is just asking you to look at the true history of YOUR OWN RELIGION and how it was altered, and asking that you read your own Bible that clearly indicates that the second coming of Jesus has already happened.

One does not have to be born again to read and comprehend the Bible. That is a lie. If you believe it then you believe a lie.

JB

Absolutely, and this is truly disgusting because this is the same thing as saying that God is deceitful.

It also claims that those sincere people who turned to Christianity and asked Jesus to come into their life were in fact REJECTED by God!

But that flies in the face of the idea that God is supposed to accept everyone who asks him to come into their life.

The final insult would then be to claim that those people weren't sincere. That's hogwash, and a totally insult to the people who did in fact, sincerely ask Jesus to come into their life and nothing happened.

We can't have Jesus running around lying to people, or rejecting them when they ask him to come into their life.

That's a no no.

Evangelists never preach to people that asking Jesus to come into their life is like playing the lottery and that he may or may not come into their lives.

Jesus said that he would come into the life of anyone who asks him and he would REVEAL himself to them and answer their prayers.

The TRUTH is that it doesn't happen. So the story has to be false. It's no different from Greek Mythology, you may as well pray to Apollo as to pray to Jesus. You'll get precisely the same results either way.

our apollo who art in heaven shallow be thy name.

Did you ever see the movie "School of Rock" with Jack Black?
I loved it when his band of kids prayed to the Great god of Rock before their performance in the contest.



You can create any god and pray to it. That is the essence of the creative faculty.

JB

they will never see "creative" in that way JB.

I believe God would have us keep our eyes just fixed on Jesus...and not on the future or the past.

Jesus is a NOW God.

Jesus is I AM .


There is REST and Peace Found in Jesus
when we stay focused on Him
and not the storms of life
raging around us.

Love and Blessings to All...

My apologies for not having the url to the article I

posted yesterday on this thread.



The article was one I had saved at an earlier time...

and came from the

Question / Answer Series to Biblical Truths.

he did not come to bring peace, he came to put mother against daughter, father against son, that's what he states anyway. He may just be your gods son, he states clearly that he wants to bring enmity between families so he can be worshipped above all else. they are both vain, we don't have a free will with your duplicitous god, we either "have" to obey his wishes or burn in hell. He gives no other choice. I will chose family over either, I know I can trust them.

Cheers! I am with you on that.

good

Strange! that no one has ever been persecuted by the church for believing God bad, while hundreds of millions have been destroyed for thinking him good. The orthodox church never will forgive the Universalist for saying "God is love." It has always been considered as one of the very highest evidences of true and undefiled religion to insist that all men, women and children deserve eternal damnation. It has always been heresy, to say, "God will at last save all"

http://www.infidels.org/library/historical/robert_ingersoll/gods.html

It's religion 101 - how to keep the sheep in line.

Its strange indeed that noone has been persecuted for saying God is bad but many have died for saying him good.

I'm not sure mirror, you could be right, but what of the fallen angels? did not lucifer think god bad? or at least think himself better than god, which is basically the same thing, did he not get persecuted or punished? hmmm???

Well, I was refering to human beings. I would have to think about "lucifer". He seems to be something of a cosmic scapegoat.

what one hold dearest to as wisdom is what one seek MOST from others.......

if one meet ten men on a road, and each demand another adhere to their standard, what would become of the one who met the ten.......peace