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Topic: Why not support Nader-Gonzalez,
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Wed 07/09/08 11:41 AM

Oh, just stop trying. I've already posted all this using a Progressive website source that pushes Progressive agendas and he will hear none of it.




Starsailor..... In connection with your post above, I enjoy baiting Fanta, because it's enjoyable to read his replies. They are nothing but a mountain of calumnies, exaggerations, innuendo, evasions and outright fabrications.


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Wed 07/09/08 12:41 PM
What a NeoCon!!!noway noway noway

Shameful!!
Look Leahmarie learned a new word!
laugh laugh laugh laugh

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Wed 07/09/08 12:51 PM







I ain't Voting for anyone with the Middle Name of Hussein!


it's a very common name


Thoughtless and baseless comments like those ring of uninformed racism to me!


More stupidity than racism. But I think it was meant as a joke. Sad thing is, a lot of people feel that way. A lot of people who vote.

JB

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Wed 07/09/08 01:10 PM

What a NeoCon!!!noway noway noway

Shameful!!
Look Leahmarie learned a new word!
laugh laugh laugh laugh


And, that is your intelligent counter to factual evidence from far leftist sites, as well as the New York Times, and The Hill, that show that both Obama and Edwards work closely and take money from lobbyists? Talk about disillusionment.

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Wed 07/09/08 08:27 PM
Edited by leahmarie on Wed 07/09/08 08:30 PM

What a NeoCon!!!noway noway noway

Shameful!!
Look Leahmarie learned a new word!
laugh laugh laugh laugh




Fanta..... Noooooo. It is not shameful. You fell for the bait and made a dumb post. laugh

Incidentally, as far as the "new word" is concerned, it is clear you don't know the meaning of it, considering that you used it inaccurately on another thread.

Next time before you "steal" a "new word" from me, make sure you know what it means before you use it. pitchfork

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Wed 07/09/08 08:50 PM

No military experience either. ZERO. NADA. ZILCH. Hes an "innocent civilian" which is an oxymoron


Versus the POW who has PSTD and is hot to war with everyone???? McCain is unstable, violently angry and we want to put HIM in control???

I would rather have a level head than a hot head especially considering the MESS left behind by the illustrious dubya, baby shrub, burning bush, whatever you want to call him. He and McCain are unfit to run this country. We cannot take another 4 years of the crap we have been dished the last 8 and that is what we will get from McCain.

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Sat 07/12/08 08:27 AM
Edited by Quikstepper on Sat 07/12/08 08:32 AM


I'm gonna look for the poorest no-name sap on the ballot box and check his/her name!winking



Now You Vote Like I do! I don't give a Piss one about who the Pachyderm or Jackass Candidate is.


This is why we don't get QUALITY politicans.

Many are all too willing to vote a party line & forget about personal integrity of the person.

I'm not going to say there aren't problems in the GOP but DEMS always look for the lowest ground they can find & expect the rest of us to like it.

I am so disgusted at what is being forced down our throats by the powers that be that I am looking into voting for Nader...and anyone who is not an incumbant.

We could actually implement a coup if there were enough Americans who are disgusted enough to stick together to vote all these jerks out.

En Masse...

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Sat 07/12/08 08:29 AM


What a NeoCon!!!noway noway noway

Shameful!!
Look Leahmarie learned a new word!
laugh laugh laugh laugh


And, that is your intelligent counter to factual evidence from far leftist sites, as well as the New York Times, and The Hill, that show that both Obama and Edwards work closely and take money from lobbyists? Talk about disillusionment.


Yes well you don't hear that above the screaming meemee's haliburton lies. frustrated frustrated frustrated

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Sat 07/12/08 08:30 AM
i would vote for Charles Manson. before i voted for a republican.

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Sat 07/12/08 08:33 AM

i would vote for Charles Manson. before i voted for a republican.


It proves my point that it's scarey that people like you get to vote.

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Sat 07/12/08 08:35 AM
no whats scary is you vote for bush, and when you voted you were not even high.

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Sat 07/12/08 08:56 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sat 07/12/08 08:56 AM



This is why we don't get QUALITY politicans.

Many are all too willing to vote a party line & forget about personal integrity of the person.

I'm not going to say there aren't problems in the GOP but DEMS always look for the lowest ground they can find & expect the rest of us to like it.

I am so disgusted at what is being forced down our throats by the powers that be that I am looking into voting for Nader...and anyone who is not an incumbant.

We could actually implement a coup if there were enough Americans who are disgusted enough to stick together to vote all these jerks out.

En Masse...



The reason we don't get quality politicians is that the powers that have all the money and want to run the world don't want men and women with integrity in office. They want obedient puppets that will follow their orders.

The higher up you go in politics the more sleazy you are because the more sleazy you are and the more skeletons you have in your closet the more you can be blackmailed into doing what you are told.

Also they don't want smart people in office. Just look at George Bush. Sorry, he may be cute but he is not too bright.

JB

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Sat 07/12/08 08:57 AM
we have one without military experience. george w bush. see how that worked out.

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Sat 07/12/08 10:54 AM


Vote Obama!drinker

Zero corporate ties or influence!

Of course since you've researched his campaign, you already know that.
Right?huh



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Fanta.....Fanta..... Why do you keep posting false statements. So Obama has zero corporate ties!!!!!:laughing:

What's with you? How come your thinking is so screwed? think

Let us get to the matter of Obama's corporate contributors and ties.

First there is Exelon, his largest contributor, shelling out $160,000 to Obama's campaign!

Let us not forget Rezko, his slum landlord patron! This tells us everything we want to know about Obama. How can anyone accept money from a slum landlord, particularly when there are so many black people who are forced to live in substandard houses/apartments. But why should Barack care about poor people whether they are black or white! Rezko not only gave him money but a great deal on the property adjacent to his home. Families are losing their houses and Obama gets a sweetheart deal of a mortgage. tears

Then there is Boeing! Come fly with me! Obama is sure flying high with Boeing's big contribution!

Of course, we do not want to forget Commonwealth Edson! Wow!

You are familiar with Goldman Sachs, another big corporate contributor to Barack!

Also, we have York Capital Management handing out cash to the man who would be president!

So, how come you claim Obama has no corporate ties? Bull**** .... these corporations are coming to Barack with money in their hands and Obama is drooling over it. drool


Obama doesn't have zero lobbyist ties but I don't think McCain wants to touch that hot topic. Obama is going up against some powerful and influential lobbying groups. That is why McSleeze told the AIPAC that Obama would endanger Israel and appeasement does not work....which I'm sure he meant intelligent, rational, thought out plans and diplomacy with our allies do not work.
It only took Bush 7 1/2 years to learn a little diplomacy, probably because he wanted to leave office believing he had accomplished something with North Korea. But he will still be a sideline cheerleader for control of the MiddleEast. No matter how much their policies have failed and damaged America, McSame is clinging to them because that is his only hope. I can't believe anyone could not see how they have damaged America and still believe in their failed policies. Not only is our economy a mess but why must our soldiers keep dying to protect Israel? It is time to say goodbye to the neo-cons.


"NO LOBBY IS FEARED MORE or catered to by politicians than the Jewish Lobby. If a politician does not play ball with the Jewish Lobby, he will not get elected, or re-elected, and he will either be smeared or ignored by the Jewish-owned major media.

All Jewish lobbies and organizations are interconnected and there are hundreds upon hundreds of them. The leaders of the numerous Jewish Lobby Groups go to the same synagogues, country clubs, and share the same Jewish investment bankers. And this inter-connectedness extends to the Jews who run the Federal Reserve Bank, US Homeland Security, and the US State Department.

In other words, “Jews stick together.” Americans must know how extremely powerful the Jewish Lobby is and how it operates to undermine America’s interests both at home and abroad. At home - by corrupting America’s political system, and abroad - by dictating American Foreign Policy against America’s best interests.

Here is a list of the major Jewish Lobby Groups & how they work:

American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC): AIPAC has a staff of over 150 employees and an annual budget of over $60 million Here derived from private contributions from wealthy Jews and Jewish-owned businesses. In other words, “money corrupts & Jewish money corrupts the American political system absolutely.”

~ AIPAC has many “PACS” attached to their Lobby. PACS are “Public Action Committees,” sanctioned by Federal Law, that give huge donations to political candidates. PACS are the means by which AIPAC and all Jewish lobbies utilize the immense wealth of Jewry to bribe US politicians. AIPAC is currently lobbying for the US to attack Iran Here & Here. AIPAC’s Executive Director is the powerful Anti-Christian Jew, Howard Kohr."

AIPAC do not endorse a canidate but to put it mildly the AIPAC have definitely tilted to the right in recent years.

http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=231


The facts of Jewish Media control....

http://www.libreopinion.com/members/standarteslc/jewishquestion03.html

And still there are Jewish Liberals who are frustrated at the US policy in a pro-Israel direction often against the US National interest.

"The genesis of this is really the frustration on the part of a very substantial portion of the American Jewish community that despite the fact that there is broad support for a peace-oriented policy in the Middle East, there doesn't seem to be the political will to actually carry it out," Ben-Ami said. "We have not been effective at transmitting the message that there is political support for these positions in the American Jewish community and their allies."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/14/AR2008041402647.html



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Sat 07/12/08 12:13 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sat 07/12/08 12:15 PM
I appose Zionism and all it stands for. So do traditional Jews and the Taroh.

Traditional Jews Are Not Zionists
Although there are those who refuse to accept the teachings of our Rabbis and will continue to support the Zionist state, there are also many who are totally unaware of the history of Zionism and its contradiction to the beliefs of Torah-True Jews.

Jews Against Zionism Places Billboard
Ads
http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/index.cfm

Jul 11, 2008

Jews Against Zionism has paid for billboard ads in two places along the Brooklyn-Queens Expressway. The ads went up on Monday, July 7; one of them is near the Broadway overpass in Williamsburg, facing the Queens-bound traffic. The text of the ads is:

JUDAISM IS A RELIGION
GOVERNED BY THE TORAH

Zionism is a Political Movement
Opposed by the Torah

www.TrueTorahJews.org

ZIONIST LEADERS AND SYMPATHIZERS
DON'T REPRESENT JEWRY


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Sat 07/12/08 01:45 PM



Vote Obama!drinker

Zero corporate ties or influence!

Of course since you've researched his campaign, you already know that.
Right?huh



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Fanta.....Fanta..... Why do you keep posting false statements. So Obama has zero corporate ties!!!!!:laughing:

What's with you? How come your thinking is so screwed? think

Let us get to the matter of Obama's corporate contributors and ties.

First there is Exelon, his largest contributor, shelling out $160,000 to Obama's campaign!

Let us not forget Rezko, his slum landlord patron! This tells us everything we want to know about Obama. How can anyone accept money from a slum landlord, particularly when there are so many black people who are forced to live in substandard houses/apartments. But why should Barack care about poor people whether they are black or white! Rezko not only gave him money but a great deal on the property adjacent to his home. Families are losing their houses and Obama gets a sweetheart deal of a mortgage. tears

Then there is Boeing! Come fly with me! Obama is sure flying high with Boeing's big contribution!

Of course, we do not want to forget Commonwealth Edson! Wow!

You are familiar with Goldman Sachs, another big corporate contributor to Barack!

Also, we have York Capital Management handing out cash to the man who would be president!

So, how come you claim Obama has no corporate ties? Bull**** .... these corporations are coming to Barack with money in their hands and Obama is drooling over it. drool


Obama doesn't have zero lobbyist ties but I don't think McCain wants to touch that hot topic. Obama is going up against some powerful and influential lobbying groups. That is why McSleeze told the AIPAC that Obama would endanger Israel and appeasement does not work....which I'm sure he meant intelligent, rational, thought out plans and diplomacy with our allies do not work.
It only took Bush 7 1/2 years to learn a little diplomacy, probably because he wanted to leave office believing he had accomplished something with North Korea. But he will still be a sideline cheerleader for control of the MiddleEast. No matter how much their policies have failed and damaged America, McSame is clinging to them because that is his only hope. I can't believe anyone could not see how they have damaged America and still believe in their failed policies. Not only is our economy a mess but why must our soldiers keep dying to protect Israel? It is time to say goodbye to the neo-cons.


"NO LOBBY IS FEARED MORE or catered to by politicians than the Jewish Lobby. If a politician does not play ball with the Jewish Lobby, he will not get elected, or re-elected, and he will either be smeared or ignored by the Jewish-owned major media.

All Jewish lobbies and organizations are interconnected and there are hundreds upon hundreds of them. The leaders of the numerous Jewish Lobby Groups go to the same synagogues, country clubs, and share the same Jewish investment bankers. And this inter-connectedness extends to the Jews who run the Federal Reserve Bank, US Homeland Security, and the US State Department.

In other words, “Jews stick together.” Americans must know how extremely powerful the Jewish Lobby is and how it operates to undermine America’s interests both at home and abroad. At home - by corrupting America’s political system, and abroad - by dictating American Foreign Policy against America’s best interests.

Here is a list of the major Jewish Lobby Groups & how they work:

American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC): AIPAC has a staff of over 150 employees and an annual budget of over $60 million Here derived from private contributions from wealthy Jews and Jewish-owned businesses. In other words, “money corrupts & Jewish money corrupts the American political system absolutely.”

~ AIPAC has many “PACS” attached to their Lobby. PACS are “Public Action Committees,” sanctioned by Federal Law, that give huge donations to political candidates. PACS are the means by which AIPAC and all Jewish lobbies utilize the immense wealth of Jewry to bribe US politicians. AIPAC is currently lobbying for the US to attack Iran Here & Here. AIPAC’s Executive Director is the powerful Anti-Christian Jew, Howard Kohr."

AIPAC do not endorse a canidate but to put it mildly the AIPAC have definitely tilted to the right in recent years.

http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=231


The facts of Jewish Media control....

http://www.libreopinion.com/members/standarteslc/jewishquestion03.html

And still there are Jewish Liberals who are frustrated at the US policy in a pro-Israel direction often against the US National interest.

"The genesis of this is really the frustration on the part of a very substantial portion of the American Jewish community that despite the fact that there is broad support for a peace-oriented policy in the Middle East, there doesn't seem to be the political will to actually carry it out," Ben-Ami said. "We have not been effective at transmitting the message that there is political support for these positions in the American Jewish community and their allies."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/14/AR2008041402647.html





Thank you for the information .

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