I don't get Offended! I Fart.

You cant tie Obama to any Ethanol companies lobbying efforts, anyway sailor. Just because he comes from the second largest corn producing state in the nation, and thinks reliance on Oil is a bad idea doesn't mean he takes money from lobbyist!
Your argument is weak and based upon association to Daschle only.
He does not accept lobbyist money and is just more Republican rhetoric!

Now as far as the messiah, that was Edwards.
I dont agree 100% with any candidate in particular but Obama is a dang site better than any Republican!

Hey Life, not everyone has their head in the sand. We need to pay more attention to how we are perceived in the world.

Nader!

Gonzalez

McCain

Obama

So, the New York Times is now a shill for the Republican Party now, like you are a shill for the golden boy and the Democratic Party?

"Not long after arriving in the Senate, Mr. Obama himself briefly provoked a controversy by flying at subsidized rates on corporate airplanes, including twice on jets owned by Archer Daniels Midland, which is the nation’s largest ethanol producer and is based in his home state." - http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/23/us/politics/23ethanol.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

Reduced rates flying on a CORPORATE JET, owned by the nation's largest ethanol producer? Oh, that's nothing at all.

And, he never took money from lobbyists? I don't think so. He lies, very badly.

"Although Obama took no money from Exelon’s Washington lobbyists, he accepted $1,000 checks from lobbyists John P. Novak and James Monk of Springfield. In Springfield, Novak represents Exelon., and Monk is president of the Illinois Energy Assn., a trade group that represents Commonwealth Edison.

Monk and Novak said they do not lobby in Washington. But their clients care about federal issues, including where to store nuclear waste and what restrictions to place on coal-fired plants" - http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/04/22/681/

That is even from a Progressive News site. Novak and Monk describe themselves as lobbyists, but they don't lobby in Washington so that's okay, right?

Or, how about this?

"State and federal issues often are related, as noted by the law firm Akerman Senterfitt, whose Florida-based members donated $7,000 to Obama. On its website, Akerman notes it combines Tallahassee connections with “an involved federal political action committee” to provide its clients “with an enviable level of access.”" - http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/04/22/681/

And then, what about the Hedge Funds, which donate to Democrats 2 to 1 over Republicans. You should see how much Edwards and Dodd got from these uber rich types.

"The $1.8 trillion hedge fund industry donated $50,450 to Obama last month when the Illinois senator won wide support among voters in early caucuses and primaries, new data show." - http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSN2635694020080226

Yes, that did say LAST MONTH, in one month alone these uber rich pumped $50k plus into his campaign.

The article you are claiming shows proof does not!
Simple equation! Sailor makes claim-poster who reads claim see's it shows nothing substantial-sailor makes claim again, and again, and again!!!
Sheeple believe the claim if sailor says it enough, (he thinks)
Free thinkers with an inkling of comprehension read the article and see it contains no evidence!

Sailor ignores the poster and repeats his bogus claims again, and again, and again!!

Kinda hilarious!

So, did you not read the post before yours to see that I indeed did link lobbyists, well i didn't, a PROGRESSIVE group did, that you often are elated to see articles posted on here written by them. Till now. Direct links, but you look the other way, only to go onto belittle me, lie outright, and use those wonderful emotion icons that really add great insight and worthiness to your posts.

No links!

Just because you and the Republican Authors says he rode in a plane and accepted a couple private donations doesnt signify hard core evidence of accepting lobbyist money!

They have people who track such things and more! They have said Obama accepts Zero Lobbyist funds and when there was the slightest hint that was were a donation came from he sent it back!

These people doing the tracking are bi-partisan had would have no reason to lie.

Maybe your Republican biased sources are referring to money he already gave back, or that the checks were from private donations.
Just because a 26 yr old young man with the handle starsailor, and a nasty disposition toward ladies, takes a few statements from his favorite news source and says it does, doesn't make it so!

Lobbyists on Obama payroll: Teal Baker and Brandon Hurlbut - http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/lobbyists-on-obamas-08-payroll-2007-12-20.html

"Until recently, Hurlbut had a voice mail greeting at B&D Consulting informing callers that he was on “a temporary leave of absence” to work for Obama’s campaign." - http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/lobbyists-on-obamas-08-payroll-2007-12-20.html



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And, your golden boy, even more golden than Obama. Mr. Edwards links to lobbyists, who quit their jobs, so they aren't lobbyists anymore...riiight. Till the campaign ended for them and they went back to it.

Two members of former Sen. John Edwards’s (D-N.C.) staff were registered as lobbyists for the first six months of this year. Adam Jentleson lobbied on behalf of the Center for American Progress, a liberal think tank headed by John Podesta, the White House chief of staff during the Clinton administration. Matthew Morrison registered as a lobbyist for the American Federation of Teachers in 2007.


"Colleen Murray, a spokeswoman for Edwards, said both aides have ceased lobbying. Employers often keep in touch with former colleagues who depart to work for presidential candidates. And more often than not, they are eager to see their protégés return."

These aides were Adam Jentleson and Matthew Morrison. You can read about it all right here: http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/lobbyists-on-obamas-08-payroll-2007-12-20.html

I read the articles, and like too much NeoCon Rhetoric Ive read lately, it does not say all you claim it to say!

You can make claims of being a Democrat all day but if it walks like a NeoCon and talks like a NeoCon, then by golly its a NeoCon!!

WHAT? More personal insults?

And, I guess you didn't read the entire article or anything past the first linked material for it is more than just about corporate planes. It has DIRECT lobbyist links, as does my post right before this one as well. Nothing sticks when you have blinders on. Remove them for a moment. These guys are typical politicians, as dirty as the others. Not golden, not messiahs.

Citing CommonDreams.org makes me a NeoCon? lol what? And, you can insult me all you want, belittle, use weak childish derogatory humor all you want as well, as long as it makes you feel good about yourself you shall be happy. Congrats.

Madisonman and Dragoness do not cite from Commondreams.org anymore, if you do, Fanta says you are a NeoCon...lol.

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Fanta.....Fanta..... Why do you keep posting false statements. So Obama has zero corporate ties!!!!!

What's with you? How come your thinking is so screwed?

Let us get to the matter of Obama's corporate contributors and ties.

First there is Exelon, his largest contributor, shelling out $160,000 to Obama's campaign!

Let us not forget Rezko, his slum landlord patron! This tells us everything we want to know about Obama. How can anyone accept money from a slum landlord, particularly when there are so many black people who are forced to live in substandard houses/apartments. But why should Barack care about poor people whether they are black or white! Rezko not only gave him money but a great deal on the property adjacent to his home. Families are losing their houses and Obama gets a sweetheart deal of a mortgage.

Then there is Boeing! Come fly with me! Obama is sure flying high with Boeing's big contribution!

Of course, we do not want to forget Commonwealth Edson! Wow!

You are familiar with Goldman Sachs, another big corporate contributor to Barack!

Also, we have York Capital Management handing out cash to the man who would be president!

So, how come you claim Obama has no corporate ties? Bull**** .... these corporations are coming to Barack with money in their hands and Obama is drooling over it.

Oh, just stop trying. I've already posted all this using a Progressive website source that pushes Progressive agendas and he will hear none of it.

disregard, wrong topic