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Topic: WHAT DO YOU THINK?
bastet126 Joined Fri 12/07/07 Posts: 15553	Tue 07/08/08 07:29 PM
Trying to change concert going culture in a decade? Aren't recovering people not supposed to frequent the same patterns? Now granted..it would be nice for them to enjoy music in an environment not of temptation, but if they were at the same venue a year or a couple of months back..."Partaking in the Party".... ....wouldn't it be just slightly hypocritical to come back righteous as a reformed whore? Insanity - frequenting a place of known behaviour, expecting a different outcome. exactly.

FearandLoathing Joined Fri 12/28/07 Posts: 30121	Tue 07/08/08 07:34 PM
What do you think of people who openly smoke pot at concerts, amphitheaters, etc.... without regard to recovering alcoholics and drug addicts, in attendance, who should not be inhaling that smoke? Do you even know the statistics of smoking pot and remission of other drugs/alcohol?

longhairbiker Joined Tue 09/04/07 Posts: 26589	Tue 07/08/08 07:40 PM
Trying to change concert going culture in a decade? Aren't recovering people not supposed to frequent the same patterns? Now granted..it would be nice for them to enjoy music in an environment not of temptation, but if they were at the same venue a year or a couple of months back..."Partaking in the Party".... ....wouldn't it be just slightly hypocritical to come back righteous as a reformed whore? Insanity - frequenting a place of known behaviour, expecting a different outcome. ......like vowing at the end of your AA meeting prayer not to have a drink until the next meeting and then showing up at the next AA meeting with a case of ice cold beer hypocritical? I've had that happen. That was a funny AA meeting. That guy who brought the beers last.

baroosie Joined Fri 01/18/08 Posts: 859	Wed 07/09/08 04:58 AM
so what you're saying is that anyone smoking pot at a concert should think first about recovering addicts? most concert venues i go to serve beer and wine...is that inconsiderate to recovering alcoholics? i don't necessarily agree or disagree with your post, i really don't care, but the point you used didn't seem to justify the means. Recovering alcoholics have a heck of an easier time staying away from alcohol than they do smoke floating thru the air..... okay, i'm quoting a recovering addict as i type..and he says, it is for him to conform to society as society has been there all along, not vice versa in his recovery. just sayin'... Dear, i'm just asking for input thats all.... but as long as youre mentioning that society.... has THAT type of society really been there all along? The society of recovering people has been around MUCH longer... maybe OTHERS should conform to them....

baroosie Joined Fri 01/18/08 Posts: 859	Wed 07/09/08 05:04 AM Edited by baroosie on Wed 07/09/08 05:12 AM
Clean and sober here since 1981. Yep, people smoke dope and drink at concerts, get over it or don't go.Gotcha beat by 2 years, Michiganman ...going on 29 years.... I dont go to concert venues for that reason... i do take a live and let live attitude... Again, i was just asking for people's opinions on a specific occurrence.... But for God's sake don't smoke a cigarette, they will thow you out! Whoops! Answer's inside post!

baroosie Joined Fri 01/18/08 Posts: 859	Wed 07/09/08 05:08 AM
What do you think of people who openly smoke pot at concerts, amphitheaters, etc.... without regard to recovering alcoholics and drug addicts, in attendance, who should not be inhaling that smoke? Do you even know the statistics of smoking pot and remission of other drugs/alcohol? Yes, i've LIVED those statistics... now, that wasnt the question

MyrtleBeachDude Joined Tue 12/18/07 Posts: 4028	Wed 07/09/08 05:09 AM
man, drunks run stop signs, pot smokers stop and wait for the sign to turn green

baroosie Joined Fri 01/18/08 Posts: 859	Wed 07/09/08 05:09 AM
Having to avoid pot smoke and consumption of alcohol is just the consequence of your choice to consume them and be addicted to them in the first place. If that means you can not or should not attend certain venues or live in certain environments so sorry Charlie. If someone is breaking the law then you have the right to complain to the community where you live and disallow their freedom to use the public venue. If concerts were boycotted or artists could not perform in certain areas by being and attractive nuciance to criminal behavior then artists would insit on drug free venues. That is unlikely. Good answer

MyrtleBeachDude Joined Tue 12/18/07 Posts: 4028	Wed 07/09/08 05:12 AM
Trying to change concert going culture in a decade? Aren't recovering people not supposed to frequent the same patterns? Now granted..it would be nice for them to enjoy music in an environment not of temptation, but if they were at the same venue a year or a couple of months back..."Partaking in the Party".... ....wouldn't it be just slightly hypocritical to come back righteous as a reformed whore? Insanity - frequenting a place of known behaviour, expecting a different outcome. AMEN and that's what you call "hitting the nail on the head"

baroosie Joined Fri 01/18/08 Posts: 859	Wed 07/09/08 05:24 AM
Clean and sober here since 1981. Yep, people smoke dope and drink at concerts, get over it or don't go. But for God's sake don't smoke a cigarette, they will thow you out! Yes, I attend alcohol and smoke-free concerts..... if i wanna have a cigarette,i'll have to be courteous and considerate to others as well....... i go outside, away from other concertgoers.... I think the answer i was looking for, from everyone was: maybe all concerts should be (every type of)smoke and alcohol-free..... ... but i was also interested in seeing what type of reasons and excuses people would come up with as well.... After a lengthy recovery, the clean and sober addict usually becomes more considerate of others, through the step process....

baroosie Joined Fri 01/18/08 Posts: 859	Wed 07/09/08 05:29 AM
Trying to change concert going culture in a decade? Aren't recovering people not supposed to frequent the same patterns? Now granted..it would be nice for them to enjoy music in an environment not of temptation, but if they were at the same venue a year or a couple of months back..."Partaking in the Party".... ....wouldn't it be just slightly hypocritical to come back righteous as a reformed whore? Insanity - frequenting a place of known behaviour, expecting a different outcome. This was a good answer.... unfortunately, not to the question.

bastet126 Joined Fri 12/07/07 Posts: 15553	Wed 07/09/08 05:35 AM
Trying to change concert going culture in a decade? Aren't recovering people not supposed to frequent the same patterns? Now granted..it would be nice for them to enjoy music in an environment not of temptation, but if they were at the same venue a year or a couple of months back..."Partaking in the Party".... ....wouldn't it be just slightly hypocritical to come back righteous as a reformed whore? Insanity - frequenting a place of known behaviour, expecting a different outcome. This was a good answer.... unfortunately, not to the question. it's THE answer. Read closer.

Random_Stranger Joined Wed 05/02/07 Posts: 2409	Wed 07/09/08 05:36 AM
They can do whatever, I just move away

MyrtleBeachDude Joined Tue 12/18/07 Posts: 4028	Wed 07/09/08 05:38 AM
Trying to change concert going culture in a decade? Aren't recovering people not supposed to frequent the same patterns? Now granted..it would be nice for them to enjoy music in an environment not of temptation, but if they were at the same venue a year or a couple of months back..."Partaking in the Party".... ....wouldn't it be just slightly hypocritical to come back righteous as a reformed whore? Insanity - frequenting a place of known behaviour, expecting a different outcome. This was a good answer.... unfortunately, not to the question. Beach is dead on as far as answering your question. Are you refering to a concert that you attended recently? If so, was this your first concer ever? If not your first concert then you knew what sort of atmosphere you were exposing yourself to no? Now that you have "reformed" (congrats by the way) you think all of society should change because you have?

MyrtleBeachDude Joined Tue 12/18/07 Posts: 4028	Wed 07/09/08 05:38 AM
They can do whatever, I just move away BINGO

MLG40 Joined Sat 10/07/06 Posts: 501	Wed 07/09/08 06:36 AM
If you put yourself in that situation what do you expect? If you are "trying to recover", you should by all means stay away from those types of events. And you can move away from the area, Not all 100% of areas have those people in them.

michiganman3 Joined Mon 10/29/07 Posts: 14521	Wed 07/09/08 07:02 AM Edited by michiganman3 on Wed 07/09/08 07:04 AM
One of the benefits of being clean and sober is that I can go anywhere and not be afraid, provided I live by a few simple rules. I go to get togethers and parties,to clubs and bars too. But its my mind set and motivation for going thats important. I was at a bar last week to listen to a band and meet a lady friend there. I know three of the band members, as it turned out my friend didn't show. So after a about 90 mins, I left. I didn't have a reason to stay anymore. Last time I saw Eric Clapton, yeah there was some weed being smoked but not like in the 70's, its an older crowd now. But I am not going to go just because of that. If I can't deal with it, then it's my problem. It was on a Thrus. Smoke-Free night, I had to go outside for a cig.

baroosie Joined Fri 01/18/08 Posts: 859	Wed 07/09/08 10:29 AM
Trying to change concert going culture in a decade? Aren't recovering people not supposed to frequent the same patterns? Now granted..it would be nice for them to enjoy music in an environment not of temptation, but if they were at the same venue a year or a couple of months back..."Partaking in the Party".... ....wouldn't it be just slightly hypocritical to come back righteous as a reformed whore? Insanity - frequenting a place of known behaviour, expecting a different outcome. This was a good answer.... unfortunately, not to the question. Beach is dead on as far as answering your question. Are you refering to a concert that you attended recently? If so, was this your first concer ever? If not your first concert then you knew what sort of atmosphere you were exposing yourself to no? Now that you have "reformed" (congrats by the way) you think all of society should change because you have? The question was and still is: "what do you think of the people..." and i'm not referring to any concert i attended.... and i'm not refferring to anything personal..... AND i will never expect society to change a thing....AND i never said i was exposing myself to anything.... I'm asking for input concerning"people,who...", not anyone's justification for doing what they do.....

baroosie Joined Fri 01/18/08 Posts: 859	Wed 07/09/08 10:31 AM
They can do whatever, I just move away ... and move..... and keep moving.... and keep moving....

MsTeddyBear2u Joined Fri 04/06/07 Posts: 22031	Wed 07/09/08 10:36 AM
I don't go to the concerts anymore because of all the pot smoking. I am tierd of coming out of there high from just the contact. It does'nt help to move either- because the smoke is everywhere in the stadiums. Also the beer drinking gets exsesively stupid also. I have been drenched in beer just attending a concert. Then you have to watch out you are not crushed. Only outdoor concerts for me now!