Topic: controlled media
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Sat 06/28/08 09:01 AM
Edited by Starsailor2851 on Sat 06/28/08 09:02 AM
You people are nuts. Is your life that gosh darn boring that you need to feel apart of some great awakening, some grand movement that exists off of distorted visions?

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Sat 06/28/08 09:02 AM
Thats what I thought!
You mean like this,

The demands of real-time television, Iraqi restrictions on reporters in Baghdad and the difficulty of getting to the front line are conspiring to make it virtually impossible for journalists to cover the war properly, the award-winning war correspondent Janine di Giovanni has warned.

Di Giovanni, who was reporting for the Times in Baghdad until editor Robert Thomson ordered her to leave the city last week, said viewers and readers had "no idea" how difficult the war in Iraq has been from a journalist's perspective.

"The story, for a reporter, is in one of two places: in Baghdad, which it is almost impossible to get to now, or in the southern desert with the marines. To be there, however, reporters had to "embed" with the Pentagon months ago.

"Most experienced war reporters balked at the notion of being so controlled and having to obey a 12-page booklet put forth by the American war machine," she wrote in today's Times.

Many of Britain's most experienced reporters - including the BBC's John Simpson, Fergal Keane and Allan Little - are marooned on borders they had thought would open up, but which are now far away from the action, she added.

"Reporters are pulling out their hair with boredom in Kurdistan; there's a real war in the western desert on the Jordanian-Iraq border, but no one can get to it; and on the border of Kuwait most of the press corps are miserably camping out in their cars, unable to get into the desert."

Di Giovanni said the risks for so-called "unilaterals" - journalists operating independently of the allied troops - are huge, as the death last weekend of the ITN reporter Terry Lloyd showed.

She revealed that coalition forces had received dozens of calls from journalists travelling alone in the desert who had come under fire.

Di Giovanni also admitted the demands of 24-hour television news sometimes meant mistakes were made.

"Most journalists simply don't have time to gather enough information before presenters sitting in cosy London studios throw irritating questions at them which they often cannot answer.

"As a result mistakes are made: Umm Qasr declared secure before it actually was controlled, the uprisings in Basra not yet proven to be true."

The BBC director of news, Richard Sambrook, yesterday admitted it was proving difficult for correspondents in Iraq to distinguish the truth from false reports, after a series of media claims about the progress of coalition forces turned out to be premature.

BBC presenters have now been told to use a standard phrase when introducing reporters in the Gulf, making clear they are operating under restrictions

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2003/mar/27/pressandpublishing.Iraqandthemedia

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Sat 06/28/08 09:10 AM
The problem is that "WE THE PEOPLE" are the government & we are NOT HAPPY, but we are looking to "the government" for change when "WE THE PEOPLE" are the only ones who can make change.

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Sat 06/28/08 09:14 AM

You people are nuts. Is your life that gosh darn boring that you need to feel apart of some great awakening, some grand movement that exists off of distorted visions?


noway You scare me sometimes, you are so much like my ex!

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Sat 06/28/08 09:14 AM
you tube does help...I think its most accurate..
some of it

Fanta46's photo
Sat 06/28/08 09:15 AM

Thats what I thought!
You mean like this,

The demands of real-time television, Iraqi restrictions on reporters in Baghdad and the difficulty of getting to the front line are conspiring to make it virtually impossible for journalists to cover the war properly, the award-winning war correspondent Janine di Giovanni has warned.

Di Giovanni, who was reporting for the Times in Baghdad until editor Robert Thomson ordered her to leave the city last week, said viewers and readers had "no idea" how difficult the war in Iraq has been from a journalist's perspective.

"The story, for a reporter, is in one of two places: in Baghdad, which it is almost impossible to get to now, or in the southern desert with the marines. To be there, however, reporters had to "embed" with the Pentagon months ago.

"Most experienced war reporters balked at the notion of being so controlled and having to obey a 12-page booklet put forth by the American war machine," she wrote in today's Times.

Many of Britain's most experienced reporters - including the BBC's John Simpson, Fergal Keane and Allan Little - are marooned on borders they had thought would open up, but which are now far away from the action, she added.

"Reporters are pulling out their hair with boredom in Kurdistan; there's a real war in the western desert on the Jordanian-Iraq border, but no one can get to it; and on the border of Kuwait most of the press corps are miserably camping out in their cars, unable to get into the desert."

Di Giovanni said the risks for so-called "unilaterals" - journalists operating independently of the allied troops - are huge, as the death last weekend of the ITN reporter Terry Lloyd showed.

She revealed that coalition forces had received dozens of calls from journalists travelling alone in the desert who had come under fire.

Di Giovanni also admitted the demands of 24-hour television news sometimes meant mistakes were made.

"Most journalists simply don't have time to gather enough information before presenters sitting in cosy London studios throw irritating questions at them which they often cannot answer.

"As a result mistakes are made: Umm Qasr declared secure before it actually was controlled, the uprisings in Basra not yet proven to be true."

The BBC director of news, Richard Sambrook, yesterday admitted it was proving difficult for correspondents in Iraq to distinguish the truth from false reports, after a series of media claims about the progress of coalition forces turned out to be premature.

BBC presenters have now been told to use a standard phrase when introducing reporters in the Gulf, making clear they are operating under restrictions

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2003/mar/27/pressandpublishing.Iraqandthemedia


How do you like that for truth!
Bush is a dictator and a liar.
He wants to control your thoughts with what he wants you to believe!

Surely you dont think McCain will be any different!noway noway

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Sat 06/28/08 09:21 AM
Edited by brooke007 on Sat 06/28/08 09:23 AM
honestly..I dont think anyone will make a differance.

i dont think they really want to.

half of the crap we are facing today (oil) has been an issue for years..
it should have been resolved a long time ago.

i think the government is leaning towards dictatorship and doing what it wants at this point.
i think through power and money it has become its own entinty



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Sat 06/28/08 09:21 AM
everything is controlled

the question is

who controls it

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Sat 06/28/08 09:22 AM
I can agree with that!!drinker

http://www.justsayhi.com/topic/show/138536

Fanta46's photo
Sat 06/28/08 09:23 AM


This was for you brookeflowerforyou

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Sat 06/28/08 09:31 AM



This was for you brookeflowerforyou


and that would be an awesome invention indeed.
but i have lil faith they will make something like that affordable to the general public.

(if only because it makes too much sense..economically and environmentaly
therby lessening control of the goverment

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Sat 06/28/08 09:34 AM
Edited by adj4u on Sat 06/28/08 09:35 AM




This was for you brookeflowerforyou


and that would be an awesome invention indeed.
but i have lil faith they will make something like that affordable to the general public.

(if only because it makes too much sense..economically and environmentaly
therby lessening control of the goverment


there is a lot of directly environmental fuel friendly technology out there

but it is gobbled up by energy companies as fast as it is discovered

back to it is who controls rather than if controlled question

drinker drinker

but what do i know

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Sat 06/28/08 09:38 AM




This was for you brookeflowerforyou


and that would be an awesome invention indeed.
but i have lil faith they will make something like that affordable to the general public.

(if only because it makes too much sense..economically and environmentaly
therby lessening control of the goverment


You shouldnt be so negative!
Americans have been down before.
We always rally back somehow!

It all starts with new ways of thinking and our world leadership in technology!

Vote for Obama! Be a part of the future instead of voting for McCain and the same old same old failed policies!

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Sat 06/28/08 09:42 AM
Edited by Fanta46 on Sat 06/28/08 09:42 AM
Im sitting here laughing at myself!laugh laugh laugh
I missed my calling.

I should be a campaign manager!!bigsmile

adj4u's photo
Sat 06/28/08 09:43 AM
laugh laugh laugh laugh

drinker drinker

Fanta46's photo
Sat 06/28/08 09:47 AM

laugh laugh laugh laugh

drinker drinker


laugh laugh laugh laugh

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Sat 06/28/08 09:49 AM

Im sitting here laughing at myself!laugh laugh laugh
I missed my calling.

I should be a campaign manager!!bigsmile



Yes I agree whole-heartedly!drinker

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Sat 06/28/08 09:52 AM
Edited by madisonman on Sat 06/28/08 09:53 AM


George Bush wants to hide the truth!
It makes it much easier for him to lie to you!


but again...thats what the media wants us to believe... hate bush...

why do u think they want us to do that?
Brook the media in my mind has downplayed all the attrocities commited by Bush and his associats the problem is his attrocites are on such a grand scale and they can no longer be swept under the rug and the facts have caught up with them. Imagine if Obama or a Clinton had commited what the neocons have done they would be howling for there heads, instead we get a small article on the back page or a 5 second blurb on the lattest disaster with no comment or analysis. I gota cut my grass but great topic Ms Brook

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Sat 06/28/08 11:04 AM

The problem is that "WE THE PEOPLE" are the government & we are NOT HAPPY, but we are looking to "the government" for change when "WE THE PEOPLE" are the only ones who can make change.


The people have the power to bring change .
The problem is the Administration and the media bombard them with propaganda and keep them in the dark . So a robot can not make a wise decision when its programmer tells it to do otherwise .
No wonder all the lies , the speeches , the fake videos ....etc . This is the ugly picture and this ugly picture is the reality itself . SAD .

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Sat 06/28/08 11:16 AM
Edited by Fanta46 on Sat 06/28/08 11:16 AM


The problem is that "WE THE PEOPLE" are the government & we are NOT HAPPY, but we are looking to "the government" for change when "WE THE PEOPLE" are the only ones who can make change.


The people have the power to bring change .
The problem is the Administration and the media bombard them with propaganda and keep them in the dark . So a robot can not make a wise decision when its programmer tells it to do otherwise .
No wonder all the lies , the speeches , the fake videos ....etc . This is the ugly picture and this ugly picture is the reality itself . SAD .


You tell em Canada!!!drinker drinker

Where's y'alls Queen Gypsy. This is a discussion she could join in!