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Topic: LOCAL FLORIDA HOSPITAL BARS LESBIAN FROM SEEING HER PARTNER
Fanta46's photo
Thu 06/26/08 08:29 AM

the use our form line is instructions from their attorney so they know for sure what it says and the medical business does not want to get a form they are not familiar with

and the person behind the desk is not trained to check out the wording of the form thus they say you must use our form (understandable imo) but yes it is a pain

this is a good case for removing any law forbidding anyone from the right to join together in the eye of the law




The law already exists so that this sort of thing wont happen adj.
The hospital was wrong and didnt follow it!

adj4u's photo
Thu 06/26/08 08:29 AM
Edited by adj4u on Thu 06/26/08 08:30 AM
http://www.jasmynecannick.com/blog/?p=1951

another link with a video
drinker

franshade's photo
Thu 06/26/08 08:30 AM

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080626/ap_on_re_us/boy_torture


A Superior Court commissioner received the pleas in an abuse case against the boy's mother, 24-year-old Starkeisha Brown; her live-in girlfriend Krystal Matthews, 21, and LaTanya Jones, 26, identified by authorities as a baby sitter.

The boy was hospitalized June 9 after being found ill and in the care of a homeless stranger outside a Los Angeles County child services office in Compton.

Prosecutors claim the women beat Brown's son, starved him, burned his genitals with cigarettes and forced him to place his hands on a hot stove.

The three women are charged with child abuse, dissuading a witness, corporal injury to a child and conspiracy. Brown and Matthews are also charged with torture and face 25 years to life in prison if convicted.




this is soo sad...off with their heads, jmo!!!

adj4u's photo
Thu 06/26/08 08:31 AM


the use our form line is instructions from their attorney so they know for sure what it says and the medical business does not want to get a form they are not familiar with

and the person behind the desk is not trained to check out the wording of the form thus they say you must use our form (understandable imo) but yes it is a pain

this is a good case for removing any law forbidding anyone from the right to join together in the eye of the law




The law already exists so that this sort of thing wont happen adj.
The hospital was wrong and didnt follow it!


any law banning gay marriage should be struck down

chuck366's photo
Thu 06/26/08 08:31 AM

The family vacation cruise that Janice Langbehn, her partner Lisa Marie Pond and three of their four children set out to take in February 2007 was designed to be a celebration of the lesbian couple's 18 years together.

But when Pond suffered a massive stroke onboard before the ship left port and was rushed to Jackson Memorial Hospital, administrators refused to let Langbehn into the Pond's hospital room. A social worker told them they were in an "anti-gay city and state."

Langbehn filed a federal lawsuit Wednesday charging the Miami hospital with negligence and "anti-gay animus" in refusing to recognize her and the children as Pond's family, even after a power of attorney was faxed to the hospital within an hour of their arrival.

The case raises questions about the way hospitals deal with same-sex or unmarried partners of patients, which has led to controversy in the past. Hospital industry officials say they are constrained by patient privacy laws that can restrict giving visiting access and medical information to nonrelatives, a stance that some patient advocates have branded as discriminatory.

*complete story*
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/palmbeach/sfl-flrxgaysuit0626sbjun26,0,5531847.story



crazy

Fanta46's photo
Thu 06/26/08 08:41 AM



the use our form line is instructions from their attorney so they know for sure what it says and the medical business does not want to get a form they are not familiar with

and the person behind the desk is not trained to check out the wording of the form thus they say you must use our form (understandable imo) but yes it is a pain

this is a good case for removing any law forbidding anyone from the right to join together in the eye of the law




The law already exists so that this sort of thing wont happen adj.
The hospital was wrong and didnt follow it!


any law banning gay marriage should be struck down


What is just as sad as what the hospital did is the GBLT using this story to further their cause!

When my x-wife's sister's boyfriend sat on her chest, and punched her in the throat over and over until it crushed her larynx and broke her neck, the hospital refused to let my x (her sister) in to see her! She died too! It was sad, but noone sued!
This is not a problem about being gay. It happens to a lot of family members in a lot of cases, but it sure looks good in the papers!

Lindyy's photo
Thu 06/26/08 08:44 AM

this is why the gay community needs " marriages" or " unions" or whatever you want to call them they really have no rights. Gay couples can't even legally ride in an ambulence together even in this case of 18 yrs the partner is a legal stranger, and then they cannot give permission for medical treatment a " familY" member has to, and even if you've went the legal way to sign papers to give the person permission they can say no and have their lawyers look over it to stop treatment from occuring. Also there's the problem with if they die who their possessions are to go not only that but if their partner receives them they are taxed by the government where as if you were a married man and woman you would not be taxed. There's also the issue of couples adopting children legally right now a child can only have 1 father and 1 mother, so if that parent dies the child can be placed in foster care, with a strange family member etc.. there's so many problems that gay and lesbian couples face that some legal terms need to be given to them.


First, if there is a Will, it is a done deal. A person can give whatever they want to anyone they want. The only exception, at least here in PA, is that one cannot totally disinherit a spouse. Otherwise, estate goes to whomever the
deceased willed it to.

Second, an inheritence tax is paid for by the Estate when an Estate is set up/executed, and in PA one has to be set up, even if going from husband to wife, wife to husband. I cannot go into detail over taxes as estates can be complicated and just too lengthy to state in a forum such as this.

Third, if the child is adopted, it goes to the surviving adoptive parent! A legal action such as an adoption, cannot be undone merely because the other adoptive parent becomes deceased.



Too many 'what if's' with no known legal knowledge to back up the statements.

Lindyy

franshade's photo
Thu 06/26/08 08:46 AM
this is the reason I wanted to share this bit of news

A social worker told them they were in an "anti-gay city and state."

one person took it upon him/herself and made a generalized discriminatory comment which in turn denied another person their 'legal' rights. Yes, partner/lover/significant other had the legal Power of Attorney.


Lindyy's photo
Thu 06/26/08 08:46 AM

The hospital was wrong!!


Fanta, you must learn to read slower:smile:

Lindyy
:heart:

Fanta46's photo
Thu 06/26/08 08:48 AM

this is the reason I wanted to share this bit of news

A social worker told them they were in an "anti-gay city and state."

one person took it upon him/herself and made a generalized discriminatory comment which in turn denied another person their 'legal' rights. Yes, partner/lover/significant other had the legal Power of Attorney.




That could be just hear say though!huh

franshade's photo
Thu 06/26/08 08:52 AM


this is the reason I wanted to share this bit of news

A social worker told them they were in an "anti-gay city and state."

one person took it upon him/herself and made a generalized discriminatory comment which in turn denied another person their 'legal' rights. Yes, partner/lover/significant other had the legal Power of Attorney.




That could be just hear say though!huh


Just as it could be what was said verbatum...
I was not there, but commenting on what was written :wink:

Lindyy's photo
Thu 06/26/08 08:58 AM
Edited by Lindyy on Thu 06/26/08 08:59 AM




The hospital was wrong and didnt follow it!


When my x-wife's sister's boyfriend sat on her chest, and punched her in the throat over and over until it crushed her larynx and broke her neck, the hospital refused to let my x (her sister) in to see her! She died too! It was sad, but noone sued!
This is not a problem about being gay. It happens to a lot of family members in a lot of cases, but it sure looks good in the papers!


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Want to hear a good one? When my 19 year old son was the victim of a hit and run, when I got to the hospital and to the Intensive Care Unit, a social worker tried to corner me and talk about organ donations. I quickly pushed her aside. BUT when I got to the entrance of the door of the ICU where Brian was, one of the doctors stopped me and said I could not see Brian, who was dying, ended up brain dead death, until I talked to him about organ donations. He had the vulgar audacity to tell me I had no rights! Can you believe that? Well, I pushed him aside and went straignt to my son's beside. The doctor there told me I could stay as long as I wanted as often as I wanted, with the exception of when they had to do testing required by PA law to medically confirm Brain was dead, brain dead death.

Lindyy
(I love you Brian)

Fanta46's photo
Thu 06/26/08 09:00 AM
I apologize for not reading the article better.
I was wrong not to.


The hospital should have honored the Power of Attorney!
They were wrong not to!

But it happens to a lot of people without them being gay!
It is not a gay only problem!

franshade's photo
Thu 06/26/08 09:01 AM
MsLindyy, my deepest condolences and good thing you are a strong woman not to allow those idiots to get in your way flowerforyou

Fanta, also my deepest condolences to you as well flowerforyou

Fanta46's photo
Thu 06/26/08 09:05 AM





The hospital was wrong and didnt follow it!


When my x-wife's sister's boyfriend sat on her chest, and punched her in the throat over and over until it crushed her larynx and broke her neck, the hospital refused to let my x (her sister) in to see her! She died too! It was sad, but noone sued!
This is not a problem about being gay. It happens to a lot of family members in a lot of cases, but it sure looks good in the papers!


**************************************************************
Want to hear a good one? When my 19 year old son was the victim of a hit and run, when I got to the hospital and to the Intensive Care Unit, a social worker tried to corner me and talk about organ donations. I quickly pushed her aside. BUT when I got to the entrance of the door of the ICU where Brian was, one of the doctors stopped me and said I could not see Brian, who was dying, ended up brain dead death, until I talked to him about organ donations. He had the vulgar audacity to tell me I had no rights! Can you believe that? Well, I pushed him aside and went straignt to my son's beside. The doctor there told me I could stay as long as I wanted as often as I wanted, with the exception of when they had to do testing required by PA law to medically confirm Brain was dead, brain dead death.

Lindyy
(I love you Brian)


Im so sorry you had to go through that Lindy!:heart: flowerforyou
:cry: :cry: :cry:

franshade's photo
Thu 06/26/08 09:07 AM

I apologize for not reading the article better.
I was wrong not to.


The hospital should have honored the Power of Attorney!
They were wrong not to!

But it happens to a lot of people without them being gay!
It is not a gay only problem!


100% correct - the comment made by the social worker (as per quote in newspaper article) is what made it pertain to sexual orientation.

Happens to a lot people and it shouldn't.

Fanta46's photo
Thu 06/26/08 09:08 AM

MsLindyy, my deepest condolences and good thing you are a strong woman not to allow those idiots to get in your way flowerforyou

Fanta, also my deepest condolences to you as well flowerforyou


I didnt like her much fran. She was a crack head.
It tore my X-wife up though! Which caused me grief!

When she went hysterical and tried to force her way into the ICU, the hospital even went so far as to call security to haul her away. It was awful!!

Lindyy's photo
Thu 06/26/08 09:10 AM
Fran and Fanta, thank you both so much:heart:

It is sad that so many people are afraid to stand up to people such as the doctor in Brian's case.

It is a shame that you have to 'stand up' to anyone in a situation that involves a loved one's medical condition.

Lindyy
grumble

franshade's photo
Thu 06/26/08 09:13 AM


MsLindyy, my deepest condolences and good thing you are a strong woman not to allow those idiots to get in your way flowerforyou

Fanta, also my deepest condolences to you as well flowerforyou


I didnt like her much fran. She was a crack head.
It tore my X-wife up though! Which caused me grief!

When she went hysterical and tried to force her way into the ICU, the hospital even went so far as to call security to haul her away. It was awful!!


You would think being in their line of work, that they could handle situations better than they do. Shame one cant make a person do what is right.

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Thu 06/26/08 09:16 AM

I was just reading a story yesterday about three women, two who were partners, who tortured their little boy. They burned his hands and genitals among other terrible things. Why? Because the little boy had told officals about the drug use in the families home!

I wonder why the GBLT did not make a national media issue out of that incident!

Because the fact that two of the women were partners had nothing to do with the incident.

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