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Topic: is a person mean if...
TheLonelyWalker's photo
Sat 06/21/08 06:48 AM
...he or she just says the raw truth without editing or censoring?
in other words is it ok to say the naked truth as it is regardless the fact that other person may feel offended or hurt by it?

CATBW56's photo
Sat 06/21/08 06:50 AM
in some cases you have no other choice but to tell the naked truth....whether feelings are hurt or not.

auburngirl's photo
Sat 06/21/08 06:51 AM
Sometimes truth is hurtful, yes. I do believe the choice of our words can often soften that a bit.

TheLonelyWalker's photo
Sat 06/21/08 06:55 AM

Sometimes truth is hurtful, yes. I do believe the choice of our words can often soften that a bit.

then,
are we mean if we don't choose the words and just say things the way they come out of our mind?

trace78's photo
Sat 06/21/08 06:55 AM
i do it all the time, and im told that im being mean, but i would much rather be without someones admiration in order to tell them the truth in a way that they understand, especially if its a life altering decision. But in no way am i offensive, but i am told i am mean cause most (all) dont want to hear the truth when they ask for advice.

auburngirl's photo
Sat 06/21/08 06:57 AM
hmmm I'll have to think on that LW. I suppose one could argue intent here. Perhaps some don't choose their words as carefully as others, but there is no intent of malice. If the words aren't selected carefully, and it comes from a place of ill will, I would say that is mean.

mcattygarnett's photo
Sat 06/21/08 06:57 AM
I am very blunt and to the point, and sometimes I need to choose my words better, but I still believe the truth is the best way.

no photo
Sat 06/21/08 06:57 AM
Tact can be useful, but there are some who go out of their way looking for something they can take as offensive -- even if they have to stretch meanings and intentions uncomfortably in order to do so.

CATBW56's photo
Sat 06/21/08 06:58 AM


Sometimes truth is hurtful, yes. I do believe the choice of our words can often soften that a bit.

then,
are we mean if we don't choose the words and just say things the way they come out of our mind?


even if words are chosen carefully, they can still be hurtful. I was faced with this not too long ago with a co-worker. I tried to be dignified about it, but with the person involved I had no other choice but to same some things (that were hurtful) because that was the only thing they understood. This co-worker is not playing with a full deck if you know what I meanlaugh

TheLonelyWalker's photo
Sat 06/21/08 06:59 AM

hmmm I'll have to think on that LW. I suppose one could argue intent here. Perhaps some don't choose their words as carefully as others, but there is no intent of malice. If the words aren't selected carefully, and it comes from a place of ill will, I would say that is mean.

well dear, I'm posting the question considering that ill feelings and any intention to offend are out of the picture.
No intent behind just telling the naked truth.

no photo
Sat 06/21/08 07:03 AM
the truth is always going to hurt someone

no photo
Sat 06/21/08 07:04 AM
Yes.

And, an emphatic, No!

no photo
Sat 06/21/08 07:06 AM


Sometimes truth is hurtful, yes. I do believe the choice of our words can often soften that a bit.

then,
are we mean if we don't choose the words and just say things the way they come out of our mind?

Well, it is a matter of personal opinion. However, it is most definitely tactless and even rude.

auburngirl's photo
Sat 06/21/08 07:06 AM
I would say too, that is this thing needful to BE said in the first place?

TheLonelyWalker's photo
Sat 06/21/08 07:07 AM
so, if it's true that the truth is always going to hurt somebody. wouldn't it be just because that we are scared of facing the truth as it is?
wouldn't it be better for us to have a more open mind, and accept things the way they are or call things by the name they have?

hikerchick's photo
Sat 06/21/08 07:07 AM

Tact can be useful, but there are some who go out of their way looking for something they can take as offensive -- even if they have to stretch meanings and intentions uncomfortably in order to do so.
Yes, like when they turn your "I" statements around. If I say "I feel this way when..."; they tell me I am saying that THEY should feel that way.

When I never said anything of the kind. It's quite frequent and extremely frustrating on here.

TheLonelyWalker's photo
Sat 06/21/08 07:08 AM



Sometimes truth is hurtful, yes. I do believe the choice of our words can often soften that a bit.

then,
are we mean if we don't choose the words and just say things the way they come out of our mind?

Well, it is a matter of personal opinion. However, it is most definitely tactless and even rude.

you see my friend that is when i kind of disagree. truth is the same here and china, and if we change the words more than likely things lose their meaning and can create confusion

no photo
Sat 06/21/08 07:08 AM

i do it all the time, and im told that im being mean, but i would much rather be without someones admiration in order to tell them the truth in a way that they understand, especially if its a life altering decision. But in no way am i offensive, but i am told i am mean cause most (all) dont want to hear the truth when they ask for advice.

It sounds like you are doing the right thing. You aren't offensive.

I am a helping professional; and, there are ways to help a person gain insight and make their own decisions without destroying their egos or doing major (and sometimes permanent) emotional/psychological harm.

TheLonelyWalker's photo
Sat 06/21/08 07:09 AM


Tact can be useful, but there are some who go out of their way looking for something they can take as offensive -- even if they have to stretch meanings and intentions uncomfortably in order to do so.
Yes, like when they turn your "I" statements around. If I say "I feel this way when..."; they tell me I am saying that THEY should feel that way.

When I never said anything of the kind. It's quite frequent and extremely frustrating on here.

I'm with you all the way in this one Hicker.

auburngirl's photo
Sat 06/21/08 07:10 AM

so, if it's true that the truth is always going to hurt somebody. wouldn't it be just because that we are scared of facing the truth as it is?
wouldn't it be better for us to have a more open mind, and accept things the way they are or call things by the name they have?


I don't know that the truth ALWAYS hurts. If I say so~n~so is a very smart person and that is truth, that is not mean. I guess it would depend on so many variables of what it is we're talking about, if it NEEDS to be said at all, and then how to word things.

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