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We have heard of this campaign "Just say no" for a long time. We have stricter laws if a person is caught near a school selling drugs. We are told this is one of the biggest threats to our children and actually you could say our society since they will be our future leaders. Now we all worry about sex offenders and say they/ we need to know if one lives close by. What about druggies? If we are so concerned about our childrens welfare and keeping them away from drugs why don't we have a DRUGGIE registry? personally I would like to know who does drugs next door. How about u? Would you be in favor of a Druggie registry? And them being on it for life no matter if they were just caught with a seed? Looking foward to your comments on this subject. thanks..Miles If people are so concerned about children, why do they allow people to diagnose children with ADD in our schools and put them on drugs that the long term affects of are unkown? Why tolerate a legal drug pusher when they can do the same damage? Answer...because there is profit in business for it. Answer...because the school system doesn't know what to do with a child with a quick mind so they would rather stupify them and turn them into a zombie. Answer....no one cares if that child grows up healthy or if it has health problems later because of those drugs. Do you have any idea how many children's and teen's lives have been ruined or effected in a serious way by this practice of giving dangerous, untested drugs out? (Realistically to determine if a psychoactive drug is safe or what real effects it has takes decades.) If you want a registry, you should start with a registry of teachers, doctors, and anyone else who not only tries to falsly justify this practice, but those that try to pressure parents into accepting this practice. But then, if a drug pusher is working within legal laws they aren't a drug pusher especially if big business profits right? Nevermind that the child has no choice, and often parents have been made to believe they have no choice... |
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as far as drug addicts..... until they commit a crime against someone else i feel that being an addict is not criminal but just another victum...
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as far as drug addicts..... until they commit a crime against someone else i feel that being an addict is not criminal but just another victum... The only real victims of an addict or alcoholic is the children. The rest are adults who make adult choices, whether they be alchoholic or their friends and loved ones. This is the fact that encourages real growth, as opposed to blaming the alchoholic/addict or the loved ones that kill us with kindness. |
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as far as drug addicts..... until they commit a crime against someone else i feel that being an addict is not criminal but just another victum... The only real victims of an addict or alcoholic is the children. The rest are adults who make adult choices, whether they be alchoholic or their friends and loved ones. This is the fact that encourages real growth, as opposed to blaming the alchoholic/addict or the loved ones that kill us with kindness. |
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Edited by
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Tue 06/17/08 03:49 PM
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you dont suppose that a parent is a victum of a minor child who gets addicted to drugs and has to put their child in treatment? etc? or a roommate who lives with a person and they become a drug addict and doesnt pay their share of the bills? or a wife? whos husband becomes a drug addict and hes too high to come home some nights? or arguing with spouse cause they havent slept for 3 days? and the other spouse never even tried drugs? for some strange reason i have to dissagree with you on this
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you dont suppose that a parent is a victum of a minor child who gets addicted to drugs and has to put their child in treatment? etc? or a roommate who lives with a person and they become a drug addict and doesnt pay their share of the bills? or a wife? whos husband becomes a drug addict and hes too high to come home some nights? or arguing with spouse cause they havent slept for 3 days? and the other spouse never even tried drugs? for some strange reason i have to dissagree with you on this Nope. The parent makes adult decisions as a reaction to what is. If they want to play the victim role, they can, but it's a useless and unproductive response. They can also kill the kid with kindness. As for the wife or otherwise spouse of an addict, they chose to stay in it, for LOVE. More often than not, the love gets killed, and it becomes a sickness all of its own, which some chose to call, codependency. Children have little say unless they chose to involve authorities, which I did at age 12. Adults have choices. Wife #1 chose meth over me, and we divorced. Nothing requires that we agree on this matter, but facts are facts. More addicts and alchoholics are killed with kindness than anything else, and this is speaking from the position of an alchoholic, now sober 5 years and a day. As for the spouse with kids, what are they doing to protect their children while they're busy "loving" their alchoholic/addict spouse? Is it really love to allow their children to stay in harms way? Is it loving to cosign an addict, young or old, and cover for them? Is it loving to provide for that deadbeat addicted spouse or child while the non-user suffers through the hardship? The fact of the matter is, as soon as an addict of any kind hits the curb and people stop caretaking, he or she is left with nothing else to do but get sober or die. Parents can involve authorities on behalf of their kids, and aren't really doing them any favors by not taking action. As a matter of fact, since children's records are generally sealed in adulthood, wouldn't it be better to stop it before it gets really big, instead of asking yourself, "Where did I go wrong??? What could I have done better?" Again, nothing requires that we agree. |
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Edited by
Citizen_Joe
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as far as drug addicts..... until they commit a crime against someone else i feel that being an addict is not criminal but just another victum... The only real victims of an addict or alcoholic is the children. The rest are adults who make adult choices, whether they be alchoholic or their friends and loved ones. This is the fact that encourages real growth, as opposed to blaming the alchoholic/addict or the loved ones that kill us with kindness. There will always be drug dealers, except maybe in Singapore. Drug dealers and trafficers in Singapore get the death penalty. Funny thing, Singapore has the highest standard of living in the world. Coincidence? |
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as far as drug addicts..... until they commit a crime against someone else i feel that being an addict is not criminal but just another victum... Here here  No one says I want to grow up and be a drug addict!
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as far as drug addicts..... until they commit a crime against someone else i feel that being an addict is not criminal but just another victum... The only real victims of an addict or alcoholic is the children. The rest are adults who make adult choices, whether they be alchoholic or their friends and loved ones. This is the fact that encourages real growth, as opposed to blaming the alchoholic/addict or the loved ones that kill us with kindness. There will always be drug dealers, except maybe in Singapore. Drug dealers and trafficers in Singapore get the death penalty. Funny thing, Singapore has the highest standard of living in the world. Coincidence? the likelyhood of this liberal dominated country ever giving the death penalty for drugs is slim to none...the only way is to legalize drugs...this will take the profit out of selling drugs from the small dealers all the way to the top cartel heads. It would also be easier to idenify drug addicts and hopefully get them into rehab if they so choose. It would lower robberies and violent crimes incredibly and the tax saving on incarcerating millions of drug offenders( @$45,000 per inmate per year) could be put into child awareness programs and such.Freedom means just that...if people want to ruin their own lives...so be it...at least it won't be a finacial burdun on the rest of us and it will make our neighborhoods safer from people killing each other over drug deals gone bad. And of couse it should have some regulations as for "protected school areas" etc. |
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Shoot the moon, Shoot the Moon This is Sargant Stedenco we have a suspect under servaliance. Code name Shoot the Moon is in progress should we move in. What do you see? I can see a shadow in the window acting strange. I think they may of Moon me Sir. Must be Terrorists storm the House NOW. The door is knocked down and we go in in swat gear shooting a tear gas grenade. Get down Now you scum bag. We gottum Sarg. We got a Terrorists. As cries from the floor yell out u r hurting me. Shut up scum bag. Lets het out of here before the news shows up.. Shoot the Moon Back to Space now. They come out with a 70 year old gramma as the nieghbors look on if fear. lets go. We need out fast get out of here. As the news trucks show up. What have I done wrong screams Granny. You don't fool us. We know u are raising Bingo money for Hammas. tell us who are your your contacts. i don't know what u are talking about. That is for my church fund. 3 days later a van pulls up and lets Granny out. look at my house they ruined it. and I can not do anything about it. how am I a terrorist? A nieghbor walks by Bingo has been out lawed lady. Breaking the law means you support those other than the Powers to be. Sorry but this is our new Life. They say it is for our children and our own best interests. They call this the 3rd Rieke. You are lucky. Only the fittests will survive now as suspition and spying on your nieghbor is Your Duty. As it was once said. " do not ask what your country can do for you ask who can you turn in for your country and save yourself" We are the 3rd Rieke [/quote Miles, those people that came to your house....... were they wearing white? Just curious. |
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Nope.. they blended in well. Drove a 70's white pickup though.. they were definately undercover agents..
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as far as drug addicts..... until they commit a crime against someone else i feel that being an addict is not criminal but just another victum... The only real victims of an addict or alcoholic is the children. The rest are adults who make adult choices, whether they be alchoholic or their friends and loved ones. This is the fact that encourages real growth, as opposed to blaming the alchoholic/addict or the loved ones that kill us with kindness. There will always be drug dealers, except maybe in Singapore. Drug dealers and trafficers in Singapore get the death penalty. Funny thing, Singapore has the highest standard of living in the world. Coincidence? the likelyhood of this liberal dominated country ever giving the death penalty for drugs is slim to none...the only way is to legalize drugs...this will take the profit out of selling drugs from the small dealers all the way to the top cartel heads. It would also be easier to idenify drug addicts and hopefully get them into rehab if they so choose. It would lower robberies and violent crimes incredibly and the tax saving on incarcerating millions of drug offenders( @$45,000 per inmate per year) could be put into child awareness programs and such.Freedom means just that...if people want to ruin their own lives...so be it...at least it won't be a finacial burdun on the rest of us and it will make our neighborhoods safer from people killing each other over drug deals gone bad. And of couse it should have some regulations as for "protected school areas" etc. The US supreme court recently considered whether or not child rape should constitute the death penalty. It was actually in the news. While I doubt it passed, politics change overnight. We lost the first war on drugs, so who's to say some political party will not recognize the success other countries have had, under the precedent of accessory to murder, or perhaps a RICO act or something similar. If they pass such a law, I wont be concerned. I always ask if I'm supposed to study for a drug test, anyway. 
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Personally I would be very interested in knowing if my neighbors do drugs, it would make scoring much easier.  Hey, quit kidding around.  |
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I think this topic is walking a fine line on invasion of personal privacy.
If you go that far, then you would open a can of worms; how about a registry for alcoholics? People who have mental problems? No, no registry. If you are so blind as to not be able to tell what is going on in your own neighborhood, start becoming more observant. When you see 'funny bunny' traffic in and out and about the neighborhood, advise your local police! I am very much opposed to illegal drug use and selling it! But, you have to walk that fine line and not cross over to where people start screaming their civil rights are being taken away by have a registry for this and that. If the OP had a warrent against him, was arrested, etc., I must say something was going on for that to take place. Do NOT gripe about homeland security, you just witnessed it in action yourself. If you did nothing wrong, well, some things in life do not seem to be quite fair, but you do have legal rights to assert if you have been unjustly treated. Lindyy  |
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If you go that far, then you would open a can of worms; how about a registry for alcoholics? People who have mental problems? No, no registry. If you are so blind as to not be able to tell what is going on in your own neighborhood, start becoming more observant. When you see 'funny bunny' traffic in and out and about the neighborhood, advise your local police! If you're busted for using drugs in California, you already have to register as a drug offender, although I'm not sure if it's a 1 time thing or multiple offenses that causes it. All it'll take now is some major crime occurring with a neighbor and someone screaming, "If I'd have known the dope man was next door, I'd have never moved there.", and a lawsuit against the state for not making such valuable information available, and bang, dopers law. Naturally, and like a previous poster mentioned, it would unfortunately be a form of marketing.<g> |
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you dont suppose that a parent is a victum of a minor child who gets addicted to drugs and has to put their child in treatment? etc? or a roommate who lives with a person and they become a drug addict and doesnt pay their share of the bills? or a wife? whos husband becomes a drug addict and hes too high to come home some nights? or arguing with spouse cause they havent slept for 3 days? and the other spouse never even tried drugs? for some strange reason i have to dissagree with you on this Nope. The parent makes adult decisions as a reaction to what is. If they want to play the victim role, they can, but it's a useless and unproductive response. They can also kill the kid with kindness. As for the wife or otherwise spouse of an addict, they chose to stay in it, for LOVE. More often than not, the love gets killed, and it becomes a sickness all of its own, which some chose to call, codependency. Children have little say unless they chose to involve authorities, which I did at age 12. Adults have choices. Wife #1 chose meth over me, and we divorced. Nothing requires that we agree on this matter, but facts are facts. More addicts and alchoholics are killed with kindness than anything else, and this is speaking from the position of an alchoholic, now sober 5 years and a day. As for the spouse with kids, what are they doing to protect their children while they're busy "loving" their alchoholic/addict spouse? Is it really love to allow their children to stay in harms way? Is it loving to cosign an addict, young or old, and cover for them? Is it loving to provide for that deadbeat addicted spouse or child while the non-user suffers through the hardship? The fact of the matter is, as soon as an addict of any kind hits the curb and people stop caretaking, he or she is left with nothing else to do but get sober or die. Parents can involve authorities on behalf of their kids, and aren't really doing them any favors by not taking action. As a matter of fact, since children's records are generally sealed in adulthood, wouldn't it be better to stop it before it gets really big, instead of asking yourself, "Where did I go wrong??? What could I have done better?" Again, nothing requires that we agree. |
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If the OP had a warrent against him, was arrested, etc., I must say something was going on for that to take place. Do NOT gripe about homeland security, you just witnessed it in action yourself. If you did nothing wrong, well, some things in life do not seem to be quite fair, but you do have legal rights to assert if you have been unjustly treated.
Lindyy I did nothing wrong except i speak my mind about the govt. I have people strangers say to me in passing.. You are being watched. But they do not want to seem to elaborate. I may have been just giving a warning from what i post on the net. I have had many people tell me this.. wether this is a romour or not i do not know. I know 2x now the state Highway patrol has landed in a nieghbors field within a 100 yards of my house. And just sits thier like he is taking a break and then takes off. I do not know what is happening but what you are saying about justice I would probally have to be a Millionaire I have tried some of these think tank groups but no help. As far as everybody in any power is concerned what i am saying never happened to me. go Figure Miles 
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you dont suppose that a parent is a victum of a minor child who gets addicted to drugs and has to put their child in treatment? etc? or a roommate who lives with a person and they become a drug addict and doesnt pay their share of the bills? or a wife? whos husband becomes a drug addict and hes too high to come home some nights? or arguing with spouse cause they havent slept for 3 days? and the other spouse never even tried drugs? for some strange reason i have to dissagree with you on this Nope. The parent makes adult decisions as a reaction to what is. If they want to play the victim role, they can, but it's a useless and unproductive response. They can also kill the kid with kindness. As for the wife or otherwise spouse of an addict, they chose to stay in it, for LOVE. More often than not, the love gets killed, and it becomes a sickness all of its own, which some chose to call, codependency. Children have little say unless they chose to involve authorities, which I did at age 12. Adults have choices. Wife #1 chose meth over me, and we divorced. Nothing requires that we agree on this matter, but facts are facts. More addicts and alchoholics are killed with kindness than anything else, and this is speaking from the position of an alchoholic, now sober 5 years and a day. As for the spouse with kids, what are they doing to protect their children while they're busy "loving" their alchoholic/addict spouse? Is it really love to allow their children to stay in harms way? Is it loving to cosign an addict, young or old, and cover for them? Is it loving to provide for that deadbeat addicted spouse or child while the non-user suffers through the hardship? The fact of the matter is, as soon as an addict of any kind hits the curb and people stop caretaking, he or she is left with nothing else to do but get sober or die. Parents can involve authorities on behalf of their kids, and aren't really doing them any favors by not taking action. As a matter of fact, since children's records are generally sealed in adulthood, wouldn't it be better to stop it before it gets really big, instead of asking yourself, "Where did I go wrong??? What could I have done better?" Again, nothing requires that we agree. We might be in agreement, but I thought divorce was the choice not to be the victim. |
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well somehow if you feel threatened enough to get a divorce id call that a victum... thats all..
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