Topic: Let's get controversial lol
Scinn's photo
Sun 06/15/08 06:49 PM



BB - stay away from "scinn" you dont need anymore "scinn" in your life, laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh


Oh no does that mean I've come face to face with original "scinn"?


lol Hardly :P I'm not that special lmao

Quikstepper's photo
Sun 06/15/08 06:54 PM
Edited by Quikstepper on Sun 06/15/08 07:08 PM





BTW...the carnal man is emnity with the spirit man & therfore, I hate to tell you but aside from God there is no such thing as spiritual awakening. It's just more of man's attempts at trying to reach God in his own way & not God's way. Talk about putting God in a box. LOL




It does not make you wrong. But just because someone else chooses to name it something different and worship it in their own personal way, doesn't make them wrong either. In the end...it's how you've lived. Not what you named the entity you worship.


No! Not if you are eating from the tree of carnality...now how's that for being man made?

We are talking about God after all. His ways are not our ways...His ways are WAY higher. That's the point.

Are we talking about God's will or ours?




What I said, was that the entity you worship is the same as what others worship...but by a different name.

And mankind is mankind...naturally anything greater than mankind would have different ways than man.

I repeat: It's not what you name the entity you worship. It's how you live your life.

Source: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/carnality (just in case it's needed)


Curious...You brought up sex??? Carnal meaning the man of flesh.... That is all I was talkin' about. laugh

Ok...

1.....No...God's word says there is no other way for men to come to the Father except through Jesus. What makes me to KNOW what I believe is God's DIVINE interventions as displayed with signs & wonders of His existance... He spoke His purpose into my future with everything I would need to be fulfilled now. BAM! Just like that...my road to Damascus experience.

2...You can't possibly be operating on any spiritual level without God's Spirit dwelling in you. That is an evil deception. It can only happen thru repentance & receiving Jesus Christ as Lord & Savior. God will only reveal secret things to those He trusts & without God you will only be grasping at straws. You have to get past the carnal mind to understand the heavenly realms of God's glory.

3.... I find it laughable that the best some call me uneducated or backward for believing in something that I see, yet confounds the wisdom of their carnal mind. Of course they are in a quandry over it.

These things are not to offend anyone yet I know some will take offense to it, but I am planting seeds. Let him who has the ears to hear & the eyes to see what the Spirit of God is saying in our day. Be blessed.... :smile: :heart:

tribo's photo
Sun 06/15/08 06:57 PM
Scinn:

Erm...while my name is pronounced that way...it has no resemblance in meaning whatsoever

no offense intended my lady, was but a joke, i mean no harm, you will get to know me better with time - i'm very sarcastic at times - laugh

tribo's photo
Sun 06/15/08 06:59 PM



BB - stay away from "scinn" you dont need anymore "scinn" in your life, laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh


Oh no does that mean I've come face to face with original "scinn"?


she's original but not sure if she's the scinn i'm thinking of - bigsmile

Redykeulous's photo
Sun 06/15/08 07:04 PM
Edited by Redykeulous on Sun 06/15/08 07:06 PM
Hi everyone

FIRST:
It is my understanding that most of us have been talking about the will of "God" as you call it or the higher power as some of us prefer, whereas you alone have been talking about your own personal will because you don't seem to accept that a higher power is beyond any of our understandings.

I love your posts though quickstepper you've done more to demonstrate cultural prejudice, blind faith, and hatred as applied to religion than any of us ever could have without you!


Sometimes honesty can be so difficult to present. But in the end I guess IT IS ALL ABOUT THE HONESTY, or at least, so I'm told. drinker

SECONDLY - hey - what billboards in Indiana (Cute?) I mean when where you here? The whole "would Jesus discriminate" campaign was awesome - it even included bumper magnets and lawn signs (that SOME communities scared their residents into takeing down). Becasue you see it was a campaign against ANTI-HOMOSEXUAL Christian activities that insist on discrimination.

By the way, I still have my bumper sticker on, and I not only kept my sign on the lawn, I called city hall and after a long LEGAL chat, I kept mine up and told others to do the same. But sometimes, the fear is deep and one will only rock the boat so far. I never built a boad, so I just wing it - FREE FALLING maybe. That campaign was about two years ago.


Finally speaking about the money involved for such campaignes - has anyone considered how many MILLIONS OF DOLLARS the Christian Right Wing is throwing at the California same sex marriage amendment????? I'm sure you will see billboards. In the mean time - there are people starving not just in the world but right here in the U.S. .

Apparently it's better to starve then to allow homosexuals equality in the law. MILLIONS OF DOLLARS - IN ONE STATE how much will it cost to win every state and MAINTAIN discrimination for sake of Christianity?????

ME - I just need some donations PAINT is not too expensive and black pain can cover a lot of space - even the size of a billboard.

drinker




Quikstepper's photo
Sun 06/15/08 07:07 PM

Hi everyone


I love your posts though quickstepper you've done more to demonstrate cultural prejudice, blind faith, and hatred as applied to religion than any of us ever could have without you!


Sometimes honesty can be so difficult to present. But in the end I guess IT IS ALL ABOUT THE HONESTY, or at least, so I'm told. drinker



yes...it certainly is. Carnal thinking gets humanity in trouble EVERY time. :smile:

Scinn's photo
Sun 06/15/08 07:08 PM
Edited by Scinn on Sun 06/15/08 07:15 PM






BTW...the carnal man is emnity with the spirit man & therfore, I hate to tell you but aside from God there is no such thing as spiritual awakening. It's just more of man's attempts at trying to reach God in his own way & not God's way. Talk about putting God in a box. LOL




It does not make you wrong. But just because someone else chooses to name it something different and worship it in their own personal way, doesn't make them wrong either. In the end...it's how you've lived. Not what you named the entity you worship.


No! Not if you are eating from the tree of carnality...now how's that for being man made?

We are talking about God after all. His ways are not our ways...His ways are WAY higher. That's the point.

Are we talking about God's will or ours?




What I said, was that the entity you worship is the same as what others worship...but by a different name.

And mankind is mankind...naturally anything greater than mankind would have different ways than man.

I repeat: It's not what you name the entity you worship. It's how you live your life.

Source: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/carnality (just in case it's needed)


Curious...You brought up sex??? Carnal meaning the man of flesh.... That is all I was talkin' about. laugh

I had to google "Carnal" as I didn't know what it meant, I had never heard the word before. Those were the deffinitions that came up when I googled it. So, I assumed that's what you meant.

See...if I don't know something, I look it up...doesn't always mean it's correct...but I do have a highly inquisitive mind :wink: happy

Scinn's photo
Sun 06/15/08 07:10 PM

Scinn:

Erm...while my name is pronounced that way...it has no resemblance in meaning whatsoever

no offense intended my lady, was but a joke, i mean no harm, you will get to know me better with time - i'm very sarcastic at times - laugh


lol sounds good happy flowerforyou

Blackbird's photo
Sun 06/15/08 07:20 PM


Hi everyone


I love your posts though quickstepper you've done more to demonstrate cultural prejudice, blind faith, and hatred as applied to religion than any of us ever could have without you!


Sometimes honesty can be so difficult to present. But in the end I guess IT IS ALL ABOUT THE HONESTY, or at least, so I'm told. drinker



yes...it certainly is. Carnal thinking gets humanity in trouble EVERY time. :smile:


Dunno why you are using carnal suddenly in all of your arguments but I will address both definitions.

If not for carnal thought your parents never would have had sex, and you would not have been born so you would be able to post these messages.

If not for carnal existence there would be nothing in the world, and everything physical is carnal including that bible you won't stop thumping and trying to use as a weapon while refusing to read it.

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Sun 06/15/08 07:24 PM
Edited by tribo on Sun 06/15/08 07:26 PM


Scinn:

Erm...while my name is pronounced that way...it has no resemblance in meaning whatsoever

no offense intended my lady, was but a joke, i mean no harm, you will get to know me better with time - i'm very sarcastic at times - laugh


lol sounds good happy flowerforyou


i cant send you flowers in return- BB will get mad at melaugh laugh laugh laugh sad

tribo's photo
Sun 06/15/08 07:29 PM

This is funny.... it just made me think of that creepy line from Silence of the Lambs, when Agent Starling realizes Bill knows the first victim.

What do you covet? You covet what you see every day.

In a way, these churches are doing the same thing. They operate on the "out of sight, out of mind" dogma more than anything else. Religiosity becomes rote and mechanical. They need the signs to prove they are god loving and righteous, so they must share that and choke it onto others. After all, it is the Golden Rule, right? laugh


hmmmm? i think i like this girlflowerforyou

Blackbird's photo
Sun 06/15/08 07:29 PM



Scinn:

Erm...while my name is pronounced that way...it has no resemblance in meaning whatsoever

no offense intended my lady, was but a joke, i mean no harm, you will get to know me better with time - i'm very sarcastic at times - laugh


lol sounds good happy flowerforyou


i cant send you flowers in return- BB will get mad at melaugh laugh laugh laugh sad


lmao like she would care...or I would...
I was mentioning the roses in the same sensse that one gives the roses to a ballerina when she comes down from stage. It is meant as a compliment saying that she stated something rather well...maybe I should stick to plain english since I haven't even mastered that! lmao

anoasis's photo
Sun 06/15/08 07:31 PM

So...I have a question. No hidden meaning, no offence intended, just a general question of curiosity. In my city, you can't drive down the road 10 feet without seeing a billboard or other advertisement stating something like, "Got God?" or "Jesus is King!" or "What have you done for God today?" etc etc, you get the point lol The t.v. is flooded with advertisements for Life Time Christian music CDs and church advertisements, pastors preaching and daily morning programming with Pastor Nancy (I believe her name is). So my question is, how offended would you be if you were driving down the road and saw a huge billboard with a saying like, "Got Satan?" or "What have you done for Allah today?" or "Have you chosen the Buddist path?" In the land of America, let freedom ring, why is it that some things are acceptable and some things are not? Shouldn't it be equal and fair to advertise your religious beliefs in any way you see fit and that if one group of practicers can do it through billboards and tv commercial advertisements, why can't another for fear of persecution?


I think most religions would feel safe to put up a billboard if they wanted- it's hard to hurt a billboard. But it seems like many religions wouldn't want to put up a billboard. I know people of several religions-muslim, buddhist, hindu, jewish, christian, pagen- but only the christians have really tried to "convert" me while the others just explained their beliefs and respected the fact that I didn't share their beliefs.

I'm not sure why that is so. That's just my personal experience, obviously not statistically significant evidence. But everything I have seen on this site has been similar.

Maybe it is just because I live in America and Christianity is the dominant religion here? Or maybe it is an inherent difference in practices required by the religion?



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Sun 06/15/08 07:33 PM




Scinn:

Erm...while my name is pronounced that way...it has no resemblance in meaning whatsoever

no offense intended my lady, was but a joke, i mean no harm, you will get to know me better with time - i'm very sarcastic at times - laugh


lol sounds good happy flowerforyou


i cant send you flowers in return- BB will get mad at melaugh laugh laugh laugh sad


lmao like she would care...or I would...
I was mentioning the roses in the same sensse that one gives the roses to a ballerina when she comes down from stage. It is meant as a compliment saying that she stated something rather well...maybe I should stick to plain english since I haven't even mastered that! lmao


wow - like i meant it any differently - hahaha - i understood you BB - i was being funny i thoughtbigsmile i'm not as dense as some on here - hahaha - ok no more jokes - i can see i'm not taken rightly either - soooooorrrrrryyyyyblushing

Blackbird's photo
Sun 06/15/08 07:35 PM
Edited by Blackbird on Sun 06/15/08 07:47 PM


So...I have a question. No hidden meaning, no offence intended, just a general question of curiosity. In my city, you can't drive down the road 10 feet without seeing a billboard or other advertisement stating something like, "Got God?" or "Jesus is King!" or "What have you done for God today?" etc etc, you get the point lol The t.v. is flooded with advertisements for Life Time Christian music CDs and church advertisements, pastors preaching and daily morning programming with Pastor Nancy (I believe her name is). So my question is, how offended would you be if you were driving down the road and saw a huge billboard with a saying like, "Got Satan?" or "What have you done for Allah today?" or "Have you chosen the Buddist path?" In the land of America, let freedom ring, why is it that some things are acceptable and some things are not? Shouldn't it be equal and fair to advertise your religious beliefs in any way you see fit and that if one group of practicers can do it through billboards and tv commercial advertisements, why can't another for fear of persecution?


I think most religions would feel safe to put up a billboard if they wanted- it's hard to hurt a billboard. But it seems like many religions wouldn't want to put up a billboard. I know people of several religions-muslim, buddhist, hindu, jewish, christian, pagen- but only the christians have really tried to "convert" me while the others just explained their beliefs and respected the fact that I didn't share their beliefs.

I'm not sure why that is so. That's just my personal experience, obviously not statistically significant evidence. But everything I have seen on this site has been similar.

Maybe it is just because I live in America and Christianity is the dominant religion here? Or maybe it is an inherent difference in practices required by the religion?





Someone finally hit on the real question, which is what christianity is. It is a manufactured religion in the sense that although there is little in the bible to support it the christian "church over the centuries officially developed the bible itself, and all church practices as a means of population unification. For it to work they had to make it an aggressively growing religion meant to swallow up the entire population. The problem has been that unfortunately human beings and our knowledge evolved over the centuries to a point to where people obtained educations, and it became more and more easy for anyone actually thinking to see the whole thing for what it is.

tribo's photo
Sun 06/15/08 07:36 PM


So...I have a question. No hidden meaning, no offence intended, just a general question of curiosity. In my city, you can't drive down the road 10 feet without seeing a billboard or other advertisement stating something like, "Got God?" or "Jesus is King!" or "What have you done for God today?" etc etc, you get the point lol The t.v. is flooded with advertisements for Life Time Christian music CDs and church advertisements, pastors preaching and daily morning programming with Pastor Nancy (I believe her name is). So my question is, how offended would you be if you were driving down the road and saw a huge billboard with a saying like, "Got Satan?" or "What have you done for Allah today?" or "Have you chosen the Buddist path?" In the land of America, let freedom ring, why is it that some things are acceptable and some things are not? Shouldn't it be equal and fair to advertise your religious beliefs in any way you see fit and that if one group of practicers can do it through billboards and tv commercial advertisements, why can't another for fear of persecution?


I think most religions would feel safe to put up a billboard if they wanted- it's hard to hurt a billboard. But it seems like many religions wouldn't want to put up a billboard. I know people of several religions-muslim, buddhist, hindu, jewish, christian, pagen- but only the christians have really tried to "convert" me while the others just explained their beliefs and respected the fact that I didn't share their beliefs.

I'm not sure why that is so. That's just my personal experience, obviously not statistically significant evidence. But everything I have seen on this site has been similar.

Maybe it is just because I live in America and Christianity is the dominant religion here? Or maybe it is an inherent difference in practices required by the religion?





muslim's can get very touch about christianity here but they keep themselves seperated as much as possible from it here.for obvious reason's.

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Sun 06/15/08 07:36 PM





Scinn:

Erm...while my name is pronounced that way...it has no resemblance in meaning whatsoever

no offense intended my lady, was but a joke, i mean no harm, you will get to know me better with time - i'm very sarcastic at times - laugh


lol sounds good happy flowerforyou


i cant send you flowers in return- BB will get mad at melaugh laugh laugh laugh sad


lmao like she would care...or I would...
I was mentioning the roses in the same sensse that one gives the roses to a ballerina when she comes down from stage. It is meant as a compliment saying that she stated something rather well...maybe I should stick to plain english since I haven't even mastered that! lmao


wow - like i meant it any differently - hahaha - i understood you BB - i was being funny i thoughtbigsmile i'm not as dense as some on here - hahaha - ok no more jokes - i can see i'm not taken rightly either - soooooorrrrrryyyyyblushing


Darn it Tribo we aren't allowed to make jokes?

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Sun 06/15/08 07:42 PM
Edited by tribo on Sun 06/15/08 07:46 PM






Scinn:

Erm...while my name is pronounced that way...it has no resemblance in meaning whatsoever

no offense intended my lady, was but a joke, i mean no harm, you will get to know me better with time - i'm very sarcastic at times - laugh


lol sounds good happy flowerforyou


i cant send you flowers in return- BB will get mad at melaugh laugh laugh laugh sad


lmao like she would care...or I would...
I was mentioning the roses in the same sensse that one gives the roses to a ballerina when she comes down from stage. It is meant as a compliment saying that she stated something rather well...maybe I should stick to plain english since I haven't even mastered that! lmao


wow - like i meant it any differently - hahaha - i understood you BB - i was being funny i thoughtbigsmile i'm not as dense as some on here - hahaha - ok no more jokes - i can see i'm not taken rightly either - soooooorrrrrryyyyyblushing


Darn it Tribo we aren't allowed to make jokes?


hahahaha - hey are you and scinn trying to start a new language??

BB:
I was mentioning the roses in the same ""sensse"" that one gives the roses to a ballerina

sensse?? scinn?? whats with the doubbllee connssannanntt'ss all of a ssuddenn - laugh :tongue:

Scinn's photo
Sun 06/15/08 07:45 PM



Scinn:

Erm...while my name is pronounced that way...it has no resemblance in meaning whatsoever

no offense intended my lady, was but a joke, i mean no harm, you will get to know me better with time - i'm very sarcastic at times - laugh


lol sounds good happy flowerforyou


i cant send you flowers in return- BB will get mad at melaugh laugh laugh laugh sad


lol I don't mind laugh And it's good to see some more humor back on this thread happy flowerforyou

Scinn's photo
Sun 06/15/08 07:47 PM


So...I have a question. No hidden meaning, no offence intended, just a general question of curiosity. In my city, you can't drive down the road 10 feet without seeing a billboard or other advertisement stating something like, "Got God?" or "Jesus is King!" or "What have you done for God today?" etc etc, you get the point lol The t.v. is flooded with advertisements for Life Time Christian music CDs and church advertisements, pastors preaching and daily morning programming with Pastor Nancy (I believe her name is). So my question is, how offended would you be if you were driving down the road and saw a huge billboard with a saying like, "Got Satan?" or "What have you done for Allah today?" or "Have you chosen the Buddist path?" In the land of America, let freedom ring, why is it that some things are acceptable and some things are not? Shouldn't it be equal and fair to advertise your religious beliefs in any way you see fit and that if one group of practicers can do it through billboards and tv commercial advertisements, why can't another for fear of persecution?


I think most religions would feel safe to put up a billboard if they wanted- it's hard to hurt a billboard. But it seems like many religions wouldn't want to put up a billboard. I know people of several religions-muslim, buddhist, hindu, jewish, christian, pagen- but only the christians have really tried to "convert" me while the others just explained their beliefs and respected the fact that I didn't share their beliefs.

I'm not sure why that is so. That's just my personal experience, obviously not statistically significant evidence. But everything I have seen on this site has been similar.

Maybe it is just because I live in America and Christianity is the dominant religion here? Or maybe it is an inherent difference in practices required by the religion?





I fully agree hon :) I just find it curious, (and I'll leave it at that for people's minds to interpret as they will lmao)