Ive never heard of the bible code

As this shows, most Bible believers just say they just believe for no
other reason other then acceptance of a story. Few give explanation as
why they believe. This is a reason why I don't except just a belief. To
me this show brain washing or indoctrination as I have seen numerous
times in my dealings with Christians. It seems to me they just go along
with what is the norm or with their churches doctrine. I have correspond
with numerous believers and I get the same response. They seem to not
think for them selves. They just tout Bible verses and seem to feel they
are no allowed to express their own belief for somehow they are afraid.

ysrider is right, religion is based on FAITH. you have to believe in
what is not proven but it also creates alot of controversy and divides
people on the subject. i would never tell a person that they were wrong
if they disagreed with me about a religious philosophy but in hindsight
some things are explained, we just have to be careful not too create
something that doesn't exist through it.
when you look at the 3 largest religions of the world they are built
around the same people with just minor variations on what role they
actually played and they all speak of one GOD, do you think that is a
coincidence?

What has always been shocking and facsinating to me is the idea of faith
in Christianity. As I said, I was born-again at one point. I would
spend hours studying the Bible, and I would spend time in commune with
God, and I went to church a couple times a week. I was REALLY seeking
out God's help and guidance. I focused on my faith and supressing
doubt. I've always been a very scientific thinker, so early on I would
read and study the Bible, but would have questions. What does one thing
or another mean, and is something a direct reality, or an example for
story purposes. I always assumed the best as I read. Overwhelmingly
there were no answers to my questions to clergy or fellow flock members.
The one time I recall my pastor telling me I needed to study more, and
God would speak to me - perhaps fasting would help. So the pastors
could not (or would not) help me understand something, and it is really
seemed to be a very personal thing. These began my days of evolving
from thinking I needed men to help me get in tune with God, and knowing
I need myself to be in tune with God. No book or person could do that -
only me and God.

I'm reminded of a funny episode of the show MASH. There was this fella
on the show that said he was Jesus Christ. He was a bomber pilot that
hit the bomb button one to many times and finally realized what he was
doing and lost it - so he became the saviour. Someone asked the
character why he didn't answer all his children's prayers, and the
response was that he did answer all the prayers, but sometimes the
answer was no. Genius really.

Anyway, I'm sure it is all one God out here, not a bunch of different
ones. They have all been defined differently by different books, during
different times, by different men, but in the end it was people trying
to help others reach God by defining God with stories and providing
their definition of God. I always want to know how a religious person
can think it is reasonable to think they can judge anyone else. That is
not what Christ wanted - he said to judge not your fellow man. But it
is a confusing quandry that a Christian is in, if you think about it.
They are to prostelatize (spread the good word) but not be judgemental.
How do you promote your team and accept someone elses? You can't. You
at the very least feel sorry for someone because in your mind they won't
be saved. They may be happy with their place in faith, but you might
feel they are damned now to die. How can you have a respectful
relationship at that point? At the worst of times "so called"
Christians are a pretty judgemental lot - which means really they are
not acting as agents for Christ. Christ would turn the other cheek - if
you hit him he would not fight back. Passivist. A true Christian would
not be in the military - although there are many. How can a priest or a
pastor even be in the military - seems contrary to their doctrine.
Anger is not really OK. Hatred is not really OK. So wanting a child
molester killed is not Christian. Christ would forgive - but we are
humans, so we can sin by hating the molester and get forgiveness. Wow,
what a cop out that whole things is... You can do anything you want and
ask for forgiveness - and it is all good. I've met them many times in
my life - the ones that can quote the Bible, speak the Christian speak,
but they are hateful, angry, and judgemental. What would Jesus Do
indeed. I wonder if they realize what that really means?

Anyway, I respect the right for everyone to believe what they want and
to have their own faith, but it mistifies me what some people can get
behind. When your faith runs all over mine, or you need to broadcast it
all the time into my world, it gets annoying. But I live in Christian
central, so I guess I could move somewhere else and not be able to
express my distaste at all. So God bless America - a very messed up
place to be sure and one of the best places to live in the world.

Seriously - Cheers,
Dave

this is great! an open discussion about theory and beliefs which i think
we all needed to come out in the open with. god or no god, faith or no
faith, no, matter of fact the thought that he has let u down or the
actual "i lost faith, i have nothing else to dream for" i "think" to be
an understatment, those people that has said these things had let
themselves down, not god or faith, but, theirselves, they have given up!
only because things don't seem to go their way! back to takeing
responsiblity for our own actions huh, KB? it's always easier to blame
someone else and that's why, (don't know why)but, why we do it, without
cause or affliction. people has lost and forgotten many things in this
world. but, we don't need to forget ourselves! we r the only one's that
can truly change the way of things. that is why i believe in the bible,
same as animal said about the lessons to be learned from there in. these
things have been done before, and they are only as guidelines of how we
can better improve our situation. because if we don't then more than
likely it WILL happen again! things have a way of repeating itself. we
seen this come and go time and time again. life is a viscious circle, a
never un breaking line, if u were to read up on tarot, there is a card
called whell of fortune...this card symbolizes the movement of unisism
in life itself. "what goes around will come around" but it only works if
all the people work together and go with the flow. fighting and
disagreements only slows it down. get on the ball yall! and lets play
the game of life...it is only what we make it to be!

Have you ever done this with a toret cards.

Pick a card any card. Or like you didn't have an ordinary poker deck and
decided to us a toret deck instead. LOL