Topic: need some answers
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Thu 06/05/08 06:51 PM
many things about this post seems Fishy.

1) He is to old to join...military
2) He has a felony, with removal of right to bear arms...would not pass security clearance.
3) Man leaves Family he has not been with for 10 years to join army to regain right to bear arms.
4) Joining military will not get you back your rights to bear arms.

Im sure there is more I missed

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Thu 06/05/08 06:53 PM
I asked this very question from someone about the army taking felons; I was told that they are taking them. That they are weeding through those they wish to activate.
While this may be new for us..it wasn't all that long ago that the bad boys were sent to the army as punishment...of sorts. When all else failed they were sent there.
Kat

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Thu 06/05/08 06:53 PM
I think right now that the age limit has been raised to either 44 or 45..

auburngirl's photo
Thu 06/05/08 06:54 PM
I think the poster said it was his brother. Not sure about the age but it won't matter. If he is a felon it won't happen. Unfortunately people like this can work his plan in other ways of finding guns.

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Thu 06/05/08 06:55 PM
If in doubt call your local recruiter and say your 40 and been in prison for 10 years. Can I sign up...see what they say

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Thu 06/05/08 06:55 PM

I asked this very question from someone about the army taking felons; I was told that they are taking them. That they are weeding through those they wish to activate.
While this may be new for us..it wasn't all that long ago that the bad boys were sent to the army as punishment...of sorts. When all else failed they were sent there.
Kat

Not 100 % true.. Yes, judges used the military as an alternative to jail, or prison, but for the most part, they used it on people that the judge thought could actually make a fresh start, given the chances.

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Thu 06/05/08 06:59 PM
Edited by UplandHunter on Thu 06/05/08 06:59 PM
Before they take 40 year old felons...they would initiate stop loss, again. Which they have not. Its better to keep the trained ones than spend the time and money to train new ones.

Think about this logically and do some research...

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Thu 06/05/08 07:03 PM
Edited by scttrbrain on Thu 06/05/08 07:18 PM
When I was a lot younger...the boys homes that had time and time again taken in delinquents as well as jails...were sent in front of a judge and he many times sent them to the army. It is true.

My sons told me that they are taking in felons. They are afterall in the service...excuse me...were and one is still.

US Army Letting In More With Criminal Records
One of the costs of the Iraq war is a decline in the quality of recruits.

The number of waivers granted to Army recruits with criminal backgrounds has grown about 65 percent in the last three years, increasing to 8,129 in 2006 from 4,918 in 2003, Department of Defense records show.

...

The sharpest increase was in waivers for serious misdemeanors, which make up the bulk of all the Army’s moral waivers. These include aggravated assault, burglary, robbery and vehicular homicide.

More recruits are being let in on medical waivers.

The Defense Department has also expanded its applicant pool by accepting soldiers with criminal backgrounds and medical problems like asthma, high blood pressure and attention deficit disorder, situations that require waivers. Medical waivers have increased 4 percent, totaling 12,313 in 2006. Without waivers, the soldiers would have been barred from service.

Some of those with medical problems can probably serve in domestic positions and free up others to go abroad.

As Steve Sailer points out, the Army places such a high priority on intelligence that they have relaxed IQ standards the least. Better to let in criminals than dummies. Much of the time the criminals will carry out the tasks assigned to them. By contrast, the dummies lack the capacity to learn how to do complex tasks.

Kat

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Thu 06/05/08 07:03 PM
cant enlist after 30, not where I live..they do make exceptions...

but mostly to people with college degrees that could make a positive contribution

and not who are just trigger happy

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Thu 06/05/08 07:04 PM
Edited by scttrbrain on Thu 06/05/08 07:06 PM

Before they take 40 year old felons...they would initiate stop loss, again. Which they have not. Its better to keep the trained ones than spend the time and money to train new ones.

Think about this logically and do some research...


What do you mean activate stop loss?? My youngest in in a stop loss now.
Kat

By the way...maximum age is 42 to join.

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Thu 06/05/08 07:05 PM

what do you think of a 40 year old man just got of prison after 10 years.he's been out for 2 years now just got married in may this year. he wants to go in the army just to get his gun rights back. and his wife tells him to go she backs him up100%.

Both husband and wife are nuts .

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Thu 06/05/08 07:05 PM

cant enlist after 30, not where I live..they do make exceptions...

but mostly to people with college degrees that could make a positive contribution

and not who are just trigger happy


but it might be what he wants to pursue to be happy laugh laugh noway

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Thu 06/05/08 07:05 PM

Before they take 40 year old felons...they would initiate stop loss, again. Which they have not. Its better to keep the trained ones than spend the time and money to train new ones.

Think about this logically and do some research...


i like it when cuties talk all smartflowerforyou

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Thu 06/05/08 07:06 PM


Before they take 40 year old felons...they would initiate stop loss, again. Which they have not. Its better to keep the trained ones than spend the time and money to train new ones.

Think about this logically and do some research...


What do you mean activate stop loss?? My youngest in in a stop loss now.
Kat

Only to critical career fields...which means certain groups.
Not all branches and all fields are on stop loss like they were.

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Thu 06/05/08 07:07 PM
Active duty age limits are lower but as of 2005 Guard and reserve limits were raised from 34 to 39 max

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Thu 06/05/08 07:09 PM
http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0geu6DNmkhIgpsAz8lXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTEyZHNpamM1BHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDMQRjb2xvA2FjMgR2dGlkA0gxMjdfNzc-/SIG=12n0u1s4q/EXP=1212804173/**http%3a//www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A58028-2005Mar22.html

Current age limits

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Thu 06/05/08 07:10 PM
ok national guard ages 17-40


tell him to sign the dotted line...
and do some active duty if possible...

might do him some good..better than going back to prison...and sign on bonus for his family...

maybe he needs some rigid structure discipline..
who knows...

i would tell him to go..do it..
or shut up about it

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Thu 06/05/08 07:10 PM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A58028-2005Mar22.html

try this

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Thu 06/05/08 07:11 PM
The is a national law not a state law

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Thu 06/05/08 07:12 PM
Okay....I just looked it up on the army site...it says 42. It was 35, then 39, then 42.

ARLINGTON, Va. — For the second time in six months, the Army is raising the maximum enlistment age for new recruits, this time from 40 to 42, recruiting officials announced Wednesday.

The increase to age 42 applies to both men and women, and older applicants are eligible for the same enlistment bonuses and other incentives available to any other applicant, according to Julia Bobick, a spokesman for the Army’s Recruiting Command at Fort Knox, Ky.

Adding an additional two years to the entry limit “expands the recruiting pool, provides motivated individuals an opportunity to serve, and strengthens the readiness of Army units,” Bobick said.

Nevertheless, the Army is not expecting an influx of Americans older than 40 who will be eager to don a uniform full-time, she said.

“We don’t anticipate that this is going to give us a lot more enlistments,” Bobick said. “It’s a way to give [older] individuals on opportunity to serve if they want to do so.”

Congress gave all of the services permission to raise the maximum age for recruits from 35 to 42 in the fiscal 2006 defense budget authorization.

Only the Army, which has been struggling with recruiting in the face of ongoing deployments in Iraq and Afghanistan, decided to take advantage of the extension, with the age increase applying to the active Army, the Army Reserve and National Guard.

Although Army officials always intended to raise the bar to the 42-year limit set by Congress, they began by taking an “interim step” and increasing the limit just to age 40, Bobick said.

The reason for that was because officials decided individuals over that age would require additional cardiovascular checkups and other medical tests, and “we needed time to work out the details” of how the tests would be conducted, Bobick said.

In addition to the extra medical screening, applicants over age 40 will be expected to meet all of the regular Army eligibility standards for entry, including passing physical fitness standards, Bobick told Stars and Stripes by telephone Thursday.

Even with the 40-year age limit in place, the Army has gained more than 1,000 new soldiers that would not have been allowed to join before January, she said.

The active Army has gained a total of 389 individuals older than age 35 since the age limit was lifted, while the Army Reserve has gained 696 soldiers over the age of 35, Bobick said.

The Army Recruiting Command does not keep recruiting statistics for the Army National Guard, Bobick said.

The maximum age to enlist in the Air Force and Marine Corps remains 27, with some exceptions in the Marines for individuals up to 29 years old. The Navy’s maximum is age 35.