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Topic: Ex-Press Aide Writes That Bush Misled U.S. on Iraq
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Wed 05/28/08 07:19 AM
Ex-Press Aide Writes That Bush Misled U.S. on Iraq

By Michael D. Shear
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, May 28, 2008; Page A01

Former White House press secretary Scott McClellan writes in a new memoir that the Iraq war was sold to the American people with a sophisticated "political propaganda campaign" led by President Bush and aimed at "manipulating sources of public opinion" and "downplaying the major reason for going to war."

McClellan includes the charges in a 341-page book, "What Happened: Inside the Bush White House and Washington's Culture of Deception," that delivers a harsh look at the White House and the man he served for close to a decade. He describes Bush as demonstrating a "lack of inquisitiveness," says the White House operated in "permanent campaign" mode, and admits to having been deceived by some in the president's inner circle about the leak of a CIA operative's name.

The book, coming from a man who was a tight-lipped defender of administration aides and policy, is certain to give fuel to critics of the administration, and McClellan has harsh words for many of his past colleagues.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/05/27/AR2008052703679.html?hpid=topnews


I used to say years ago, concerning Bush and his "misleading the American People", where there is smoke there is fire but I don't have to say that anymore the fire is in full view these days.

There is no defense to what this man has done to this country and Iraq and he is personally responsible for all innocent Iraqi and American deaths, they are all innocent since we had no business going there. Saddam was even an innocent life in all of this crap.noway huh

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Wed 05/28/08 07:24 AM

Ex-Press Aide Writes That Bush Misled U.S. on Iraq

By Michael D. Shear
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, May 28, 2008; Page A01

Former White House press secretary Scott McClellan writes in a new memoir that the Iraq war was sold to the American people with a sophisticated "political propaganda campaign" led by President Bush and aimed at "manipulating sources of public opinion" and "downplaying the major reason for going to war."

McClellan includes the charges in a 341-page book, "What Happened: Inside the Bush White House and Washington's Culture of Deception," that delivers a harsh look at the White House and the man he served for close to a decade. He describes Bush as demonstrating a "lack of inquisitiveness," says the White House operated in "permanent campaign" mode, and admits to having been deceived by some in the president's inner circle about the leak of a CIA operative's name.

The book, coming from a man who was a tight-lipped defender of administration aides and policy, is certain to give fuel to critics of the administration, and McClellan has harsh words for many of his past colleagues.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/05/27/AR2008052703679.html?hpid=topnews


I used to say years ago, concerning Bush and his "misleading the American People", where there is smoke there is fire but I don't have to say that anymore the fire is in full view these days.

There is no defense to what this man has done to this country and Iraq and he is personally responsible for all innocent Iraqi and American deaths, they are all innocent since we had no business going there. Saddam was even an innocent life in all of this crap.noway huh


I can't even believe there is a book about that....If someone is going to write a book either write something worth readingnoway

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Wed 05/28/08 07:27 AM
Why are people still going on about this guy? He's almost on his way out and can't come back.

...In a sense,it's over. you won.

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Wed 05/28/08 07:29 AM

Why are people still going on about this guy? He's almost on his way out and can't come back.

...In a sense,it's over. you won.

Who won?

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Wed 05/28/08 07:33 AM
This is completely worth reading. It provides an inside look into a topic that thus far has only been speculated upon. McClellan is telling many people what they already assume, but there has not yet been an administration insider who has verified the charges.

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Wed 05/28/08 07:35 AM
There is a crime here. Whether he be in office or not the crime against us and Iraq is there and needs to be addressed. Many many lives have been lost due to this misleadinig of everyone.noway huh

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Wed 05/28/08 07:36 AM


Why are people still going on about this guy? He's almost on his way out and can't come back.

...In a sense,it's over. you won.

Who won?


We did... don't get me wrong it wasn't a pleasant victory.

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Wed 05/28/08 07:38 AM

There is a crime here. Whether he be in office or not the crime against us and Iraq is there and needs to be addressed. Many many lives have been lost due to this misleadinig of everyone.noway huh


Other than putting those responsible to Justice, what could we do? The lie put us in a situation we can't just back out of right away. We are there and we need to finish protecting these people until they protect themselves... Or we get tired of them wasting our time.

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Wed 05/28/08 07:43 AM
Trivia:

Who killed more "innocents?"

A.) Saddam
B.) President Bush

Look, I don't think we should be over there because the likelyhood that they'll change is almost nonexistent. This still doesn't change the fact that Saddam was genocide-leading tyrant.

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Wed 05/28/08 07:45 AM


There is a crime here. Whether he be in office or not the crime against us and Iraq is there and needs to be addressed. Many many lives have been lost due to this misleadinig of everyone.noway huh


Other than putting those responsible to Justice, what could we do? The lie put us in a situation we can't just back out of right away. We are there and we need to finish protecting these people until they protect themselves... Or we get tired of them wasting our time.


We need to pull out of there yesterday and let them civil war themselve until they get their own resolution, they will not do it as long as we are there

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Wed 05/28/08 07:47 AM
Edited by Dragoness on Wed 05/28/08 08:02 AM

Trivia:

Who killed more "innocents?"

A.) Saddam
B.) President Bush

Look, I don't think we should be over there because the likelyhood that they'll change is almost nonexistent. This still doesn't change the fact that Saddam was genocide-leading tyrant.


If all war deaths are "innocents", then we are ahead of Saddam by a long shot.

It doesn't matter what Saddam was, we do not deseat leaders of countries for how they run their country. That is not how things work in a world community of sovereign countries. If that was the case someone could deseat Bush and it would be acceptable for his crimes, right?

Or better yet, how about someone decides we have too many murders, rapes, pedifilia, robberies, muggings, carjackings, etc... in this country and decides they can run it better and bombs the hell out of us and occupies us for years "for out betterment", how would that sit with us?

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Wed 05/28/08 09:06 AM
not bad for a stupid idiot that does not know anything :wink:

totally orcastrated a campaighn of diseat and propaganda to mislead the majority of the nation and a lot of the world

imagine that from the village idiot

drinker

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Wed 05/28/08 09:35 AM

not bad for a stupid idiot that does not know anything :wink:

totally orcastrated a campaighn of diseat and propaganda to mislead the majority of the nation and a lot of the world

imagine that from the village idiot

drinker


Well, he had plenty of help. ohwell

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Wed 05/28/08 12:39 PM
walking threw shaking head looking for all those helper bashing threads

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Wed 05/28/08 12:42 PM

not bad for a stupid idiot that does not know anything :wink:

totally orcastrated a campaighn of diseat and propaganda to mislead the majority of the nation and a lot of the world

imagine that from the village idiot

drinker



One thing you can say for that Cheney, He's one hell of a ventriloquist!


laugh laugh laugh

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Wed 05/28/08 12:46 PM

Saddam was even an innocent life in all of this crap.


Wow

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Wed 05/28/08 02:48 PM


Saddam was even an innocent life in all of this crap.


Wow


NO ONE REALLY SAID THAT DID THEY SAILOR

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Wed 05/28/08 02:51 PM



Saddam was even an innocent life in all of this crap.


Wow


NO ONE REALLY SAID THAT DID THEY SAILOR


Huh? It's the last sentence of Dragoness's first post.

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Wed 05/28/08 06:18 PM
Edited by Starsailor2851 on Wed 05/28/08 06:20 PM
Okay, to only strengthen the points I made against Mcclellan and this books, check this out:

"McClellan also took issue with the book by former Bush White House counter-terrorism czar Richard Clarke, "Against All Enemies: Inside America's War on Terror," on March 22, 2004:

McCLELLAN: Well, why, all of a sudden, if he had all these grave concerns, did he not raise these sooner? This is one-and-a-half years after he left the administration. And now, all of a sudden, he's raising these grave concerns that he claims he had. And I think you have to look at some of the facts. One, he is bringing this up in the heat of a presidential campaign. He has written a book and he certainly wants to go out there and promote that book. Certainly let's look at the politics of it. His best buddy is Rand Beers, who is the principal foreign policy advisor to Senator Kerry's campaign. The Kerry campaign went out and immediately put these comments up on their website that Mr. Clarke made....

Q: Scott, the whole point of his book is he says that he did raise these concerns and he was not listened to by his superiors.

McCLELLAN: Yes, and that's just flat-out wrong. …When someone uses such charged rhetoric that is just not matched by the facts, it's important that we set the record straight. And that's what we're doing. If you look back at his past comments and his past actions, they contradict his current rhetoric. I talked to you all a little bit about that earlier today. Go back and look at exactly what he has said in the past and compare that with what he is saying today." - http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/05/as-scottie-sowe.html


Insert foot in mouth McClennan.

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Wed 05/28/08 06:43 PM

Trivia:

Who killed more "innocents?"

A.) Saddam
B.) President Bush

Look, I don't think we should be over there because the likelyhood that they'll change is almost nonexistent. This still doesn't change the fact that Saddam was genocide-leading tyrant.
I chose B drinker

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