In all sincerity I think this is good advice. In fact I think most parent wait far too long before teaching their kids good habits and skills. I'm not taking about teaching them religious stories. I’m talking about teaching them practical responsibilities.

I think it quite unfortunately that many people take this to mean to brainwash their children with religion early so they will be locked into it later in life. That would be a serious shame there. Especially considering that religions can’t even be known to be true.

Getting Back to Santa Claus

I think kids should be taught about Santa Clause like as if he is a fairytale. I would see nothing wrong with that. They could still play out the fairytale for their children and they Children would probably enjoy it every bit as much. After all, when you play out a fairytale you bring it to life even though you know that it’s just a fairytale.

I think religion should be taught the same way. As a fairytale. And when the child asks, “Is it real?”. The parent should just say, “I don’t know, what do you think?”.

Let them know that religion is indeed something that you should BELIEVE in only if you want to. NOT because your parents or anyone else told you that it’s TRUE. Then you aren’t really believing in the fairytale at all, instead you are just believing in the person who lied to you. And it was a lie if they told you that they KNOW it is true.

It doesn’t matter whether it’s true or not. It would still be a LIE if they said that they KNEW it was true.

People shouldn’t lie even about God.

In fact people shouldn’t lie especially about God!

Lies?

One's deliberate and intentional expression of a known falsehood, while claiming it as truth.

Seems like I remember reading somewhere in these forums where it was ok, even rewarded by the suggested powers at be, to lie about what and/or who one actually is in order for one to manifest what they actually want...

Now I am all confused because it seems like on one hand it is ok, yet on the other it is all wrong?

What is the difference?

I personally try my very best to be creative with the truth rather than to be creative with untruthes, should the need occur...

Of course, no one is perfect... I am not by far, I assure you...

But why is the blatant duplicity justified, moreover... how?

First of all, I do believe in Santa. He was a real person just like Jesus Christ was? He began in Germany, in giving children gifts that otherwise wouldn't get anything. So yes, I believe in Santa.
And isn't Santa based on the same pretense as God and Christ? Aren't they always giving? God gave us His son as a gift. Jesus gave us the gift of life. So, isn't it the gift of giving that you don't believe in?
And another thing, for those that like to switch letters around; if you want to switch Santa around to spell Satan, he was real too. And if you switch the letters of God around doesn't that spell dog? What up dog?
So come on people find something that is false to debate about and do your history before you start disbelieving.

Ho,Ho,Ho...

Celebrate the winter solstice

Creative:



Creative I want to make this very clear so read carefully.

I did not pass judgment on the right or wrong about using lies or the "pretending method" of manifesting an experience.

I simple stated that this is one of the many methods people use, and that it does work. You can make judgments as to whether you think it is right or wrong by how many people you harm in doing it, but that is still a personal judgment and opinion.

The thinking stuff that manifests thoughts does not judge the right or wrong of things created. It simply works automatically.

Back to the subject,
People think that lying to their children about Santa Clause is not wrong.

I think it is just being dishonest, plain and simple. I personally would not feel right doing it.

However it was an important lesson for me. I learned not to trust authority. So, in the long run, I am thankful for the lesson.

Yet today I am criticized by society because I question all authority to include the authority of the church and the government and the news. I also question all information because I have found that we are being lied to at every turn.

This is just the way it is.

JB

Oh so now I bet you are claiming to be Santa.

Impostor!

Well, actually Santa was real at one point. I mean Saint Nicholas who the name is derived from was a real person.

I did not say that the idea does not exist. I said that Santa Clause himself does not exist.

Celebrating Jesus birthday? I don't think anybody really knows what day that is in truth, even if you want to assume that Jesus exists. But like Santa, I doubt if he ever did and if he did exist as a man, I doubt if he was born on December 25th.

You say your nephews and nieces are perfectly fine, but you don't know what damage may have been done to their trust in learning that all the adults they trusted had lied to them.

Everyone thought I was find with it also. They could not see how this lie shaped my perception of them as liars.

Truth is important. Freedom is paramount.
JB

Yes santa did exist. Look up Saint Nicholas. He lived in the 3rd century I believe.

I just found a link for you.
http://www.stnicholascenter.org/Brix?pageID=38

BTW Christmas is only on the 25th of december because, based on the Lunar calender that pagans used at that time, that was the winter solstice. The pagans celebrated at this time and the church figured it would be easier to convert them if they made that day christmas.

Woah Whoah, Who are you to say Jesus is Mythical.

DID EXIST and DOES EXIST are two different things. See the post above on this subject.


Thanks

You are kidding me right.

Despite how the legends changed him, the person really did exist. He saved many children's lives.

I am the High Priestess of the First Universal Life Church of Brutal Truth and Honesty.

I have vowed to speak the truth as I see it.

Did you ever read my posts. In everyone I stated past tense. I said did exist.

Its not truth unless you can prove it. The burden of proof lies on the person making the claim.

Wonderful. Tell that to all the Christians who claim that Jesus is the Son of God.

You can't prove that the story of Jesus is true, hence forth it must be either myth, legend or just a Lie.

JB

In a court of law, yes you would be correct. Burden of proof lays on the prosecution. Here, anything is fair game.

Yes I read them. Yes I agree that Saint Nicholas did exist.
But that fact is not the subject of this post anyway, so it does not really make any sense to bring it up. I do not dispute that information.

JB