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Topic: Just Give War A Chance.......
mnhiker's photo
Mon 05/19/08 06:48 PM





Sam I am!

Crimes per capita!

Rank Countries Amount (top to bottom)
#1 Dominica: 113.822 per 1,000 people
#2 New Zealand: 105.881 per 1,000 people
#3 Finland: 101.526 per 1,000 people
#4 Denmark: 92.8277 per 1,000 people
#5 Chile: 88.226 per 1,000 people
#6 United Kingdom: 85.5517 per 1,000 people
#7 Montserrat: 80.3982 per 1,000 people
#8 United States: 80.0645 per 1,000 people
#9 Netherlands: 79.5779 per 1,000 people
#10 South Africa: 77.1862 per 1,000 people
#11 Germany: 75.9996 per 1,000 people
#12 Canada: 75.4921 per 1,000 people


Now apologize!!!drinker


http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_tot_cri_percap-crime-total-crimes-per-capita


Fanta,

Good stats, but a little deceiving.

For example, the crime rate in Boston, MA is probably much higher than the crime rate in Cheyenne, WY.

The western states have low populations, thus, lower crime.

Conversely, states with high concentrations of population such as metropolitan areas have much higher crime rates.

But places like Wyoming, South Dakota, Montana and other low population states get included in the statistics, thus lowering the overall crime rate.


He said per capita and said the USA!
What do you think per capita means?laugh
Not deceiving. Johannesburg, S Africa leads the world, yet S Africa as a country ranks 15th!!!
Dont twist he facts and you wont be deceived!


Fanta,

I wasn't even talking about Johannesburg.

What I meant is that the United States is a big country, and more relevant statistics would be, say, the crime rate in Los Angeles or Boston. You could compare that with Johannesburg, South Africa!


He didn't say that!
I agree, the US has more cities in the top 10 pop, than any country in the world, but they also rank our education as a whole.
We have States that if listed as individual entities would all rank in the top 5 or ten in the world, if listed individually instead.
Fair is Fair!!! (my reasearch is on hold. Their are no statistics available to prove that, until I finish and I dont have the time. One day I will!:wink: )


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Fanta46's photo
Mon 05/19/08 06:50 PM
Did I ever tell you that there are more miles between NY and LA than there are between London and Baghdad?

Dragoness's photo
Mon 05/19/08 06:51 PM



Fanta my good friend..I agree whole heartedly with you buddrinker drinker That is kind of the premise of my thread, is maybe...just maybe some wars should be fought NOT for our protection(against enemies both real and percieved)NOT for our benefit like Oil or resources, but only for the good of mankind, freeing the oppressed and feeding the hungry. Most starvation in the world is not from the lack of food supply...but from the control of food supply by these type regimes to their people. We have made some mistakes that can be argued all day long...but if we used our power and influence strickly to help people then maybe we could all have a more peaceful world in the future...but its just a pipe dream and food for thoughtdrinker drinker drinker


All good in premise as long as a countries sovereignty is not compromised in all our "helping". We can only help if asked. Forced help is not help it is tyranny.

The problem is these people can't ask for help Dragoness and as for your last scenario...In Dafur, Congo etc the soldiers come into the villages and take the youngest girls a rape them in front of their fathers before they take their food and live-stock, this happens on a daily basis, promoted(not frowned upon) by the generals, all the way to the military ruler himself...now If this was happening in my neighborhood almost everyday, being done by the very people who run my country, then Yes, I sure as hell would want England or whoever to invade my counrty!!!!!! Wake up Girl !!flowerforyou


But you are judging based on your views, what if they consider us barbaric and uncouth? So they invade us to regulate the injustices, our sovereignty will be compromised and you along with all of us will feel very put out.

You cannot judge them, you have to see that they are struggling and if they ask us for help we can help but not until then. We must respect the sovereignty otherwise ours means nothing.

Fanta46's photo
Mon 05/19/08 06:52 PM
Funny how the Europeans never mention that when they compare us to them...:wink:

Serchin4MyRedWine's photo
Mon 05/19/08 06:54 PM
I think you have more empty space between your ears then the Taj Mahallaugh laugh laugh laugh

Fanta46's photo
Mon 05/19/08 06:56 PM

I think you have more empty space between your ears then the Taj Mahallaugh laugh laugh laugh


There are more people in Calif than in all of Canada!:wink:
Yet they rank 12th in crime!

Im trying to fill it redwine!!laugh laugh drinker

Serchin4MyRedWine's photo
Mon 05/19/08 06:58 PM
Well Dragoness..I must retire for the night...Thanks for your views even if they differ from mine they are just an example of what the thread was to do...provoke different thought on when, why and If we should ever go to war.Goodniteflowerforyou

Serchin4MyRedWine's photo
Mon 05/19/08 06:59 PM
Fanta..see ya bud..always good to see ya mandrinker drinker drinker drinker :smile:

Dragoness's photo
Mon 05/19/08 07:00 PM

Well Dragoness..I must retire for the night...Thanks for your views even if they differ from mine they are just an example of what the thread was to do...provoke different thought on when, why and If we should ever go to war.Goodniteflowerforyou


Niteflowerforyou

Fanta46's photo
Mon 05/19/08 07:04 PM
Edited by Fanta46 on Mon 05/19/08 07:06 PM
Many, almost all of the countries in Africa, once had natural borders drawn along tribal boundaries redwine.
When the Europeans redrew them they split the areas according to their wishes. In doing so they, and America to a small extent, redrew the borders as they are now, separating tribes that had existed as a whole with self rule into separate regions. New countries.
This caused unnatural majorities and minorities which have resulted in genocide and war. That's what you see in most all of the areas today..

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Mon 05/19/08 07:05 PM
Good night y'all!!!drinker drinker

Dragoness's photo
Mon 05/19/08 07:05 PM

Good night y'all!!!drinker drinker


Nite Fantaflowerforyou

mnhiker's photo
Mon 05/19/08 07:08 PM

Good night y'all!!!drinker drinker


Good night, John Boy.
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enderra's photo
Mon 05/19/08 07:18 PM

enderra...the Kmer Rouge were there long before the US and even before the French colonized Vietnam...as for your other statemant and Hikers....We have done little in Sudan and Burma except to try to bring in medical and food supplies...which more often then not end up in the juantas possesion....We try to put diplomatic pressure...but without more partners...its fruitless(the point of my thread)flowerforyou
US Military Dictionary: Khmer Rouge

A communist guerrilla organization which opposed the Cambodian government in the 1960s and waged a civil war from 1970, taking power in 1975. Under Pol Pot the Khmer Rouge undertook a forced reconstruction of Cambodian society, involving mass deportations from the towns to the countryside and mass executions. More than 2 million died before the regime was overthrown by the Vietnamese in 1979. Khmer Rouge forces have continued a program of guerrilla warfare from bases in Thailand.

See the Introduction, Abbre

Dragoness's photo
Mon 05/19/08 07:19 PM


Good night y'all!!!drinker drinker


Good night, John Boy.
John-Boy: Good night, Elizabeth. Good night, Daddy.
John: Good night, Son. Good night, Mary Ellen.
Mary Ellen: Good night, Daddy. Good night, Mama.
Olivia: Good night, Mary Ellen. Good night, Jim Bob.
Jim Bob: Good night, Mama. Good night, Erin.
Erin: Good night, Jim Bob. Good night, Ben.
Ben: Good night, Erin. Good night, everybody.


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Mon 05/19/08 07:25 PM


enderra...the Kmer Rouge were there long before the US and even before the French colonized Vietnam...as for your other statemant and Hikers....We have done little in Sudan and Burma except to try to bring in medical and food supplies...which more often then not end up in the juantas possesion....We try to put diplomatic pressure...but without more partners...its fruitless(the point of my thread)flowerforyou
US Military Dictionary: Khmer Rouge

A communist guerrilla organization which opposed the Cambodian government in the 1960s and waged a civil war from 1970, taking power in 1975. Under Pol Pot the Khmer Rouge undertook a forced reconstruction of Cambodian society, involving mass deportations from the towns to the countryside and mass executions. More than 2 million died before the regime was overthrown by the Vietnamese in 1979. Khmer Rouge forces have continued a program of guerrilla warfare from bases in Thailand.

See the Introduction, Abbre


Anyone with an education was eliminated!!!:cry: :cry:

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