http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080514/us_nm/usa_immigrants_deportations_dc


I hope most members of the Bush Administration aren't planning on traveling to very many places overseas.

I think Bush is currently in Israel. Is that overseas?

Do terrorists worry about traveling overseas after they torture and kill civilians, e.g., Leon Klinghofer?

I say dunk the terrorist detainees in the water to elicit info.

how do i give you a thumbs-up seaworthy?!

yeah who cares if they drug them or what they do..they shouldnt be over here anyways...maybe that will make them think twice about coming over here.

AMEN!!!

how many illegals does china have

just curious

It's a little different while they're traveling as apart of the Government, they have protection. Go ask Rummy if he plans on going to France, Sweden or Argentina anytime soon, where arrest warrants for charges filed against his involvement in the Torture programs are waiting for him for War crimes/Crimes against humanity.

I'm not advocating for Illegal immigration, but they are people too, would you like your momma to get treated that way?

it is not good to treat anyone that way

i would not condone such actions

but i am getting to the point i will not condemn them neither

they know they a breaking the law and do so blatantly

but yes it is wrong but i am not going to run to their defense

(specially if they are multiple offenders)[which is not covered in article]

But who's to blame? The border isn't being taken care of the way it should and with the way the Birthright citizenship and all the free stuff that they can get is just being left open, can you blame them for coming to get Welfare, Medical cards, and trying to have kids for the birthright citizenship?

Rather than treating them like animals, why don't you just turn off the incentives and get serious about protecting the border?


As long as the border is as porous as Dubyah's coked riddled brain, I won't be blaming the Illegals near as much as I will be placing blame at the feet of the Government.

When our Government is allowed to treat immigrants this way, how long is it before they turn that apparatus on us?

so if someone comes into your house and you leave 500 dollars on the table it is your fault if they take it

and yes enforcement and protection should be done

but lack thereof does not excuse blatant illegality

Well and I agree except they do not get free stuff from the federal government. Welfare and foodstamps do not allow illegals access to the programs. Now private oraganizations do help illegals. I have been told that states have different rules to access the programs but they are accessing state funds if this is true. Federal funding has never allowed illegals to access the programs.

The human factor should never be ignored. We are dealing with human beings and they should have the respect of that fact regardless to the illegality of the issue or not. I agree border is a joke. And that should be fixed but the reason they come here is because of the jobs. If we stopped hiring them they would not come here in droves.

those that do not obtain false documentation do not get help from the govt

if they provide false documentation then yes they may get help

and some illegals do get ssi but they have some very strict guidelined

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Senate approves Social Security benefits for illegals
By Charles Hurt
The Washington Times
Published May 19, 2006

WASHINGTON -- The Senate voted yesterday to allow illegal aliens to collect Social Security benefits based on past illegal employment -- even if the job was obtained through forged or stolen documents.

this article was on a forum website

This is also a big concern. When we say "they" are deserving of bad treatment because of this or that, how long will it be before we are "they" and are deserving of said treatment? We have to keep the respect of humans in the equation at all costs or we may be the next to be treated as less than.

This is hijacking warmachines thread so I will save the response to this for another time. But I believe that this is ridiculous and would doubt the legitimacy of the information.

i do not recall it being said they deserve it

you brought it up

lmao

I don't see how this analogy works.
If we change it to: If I left the 500 dollars on the table with a big blinking sign that says, steal this, it's okay, but I might have to send you home if I catch you. Then maybe that works.

They'll never shut off the flow of money going to these organizations, so we'd best demand that they respect basic human rights, to treat the very least of our society with some modicum of respect, because when they run out of one group to target, they will just pick a new target to go after.

I didn't stand up for the illegals, because i wasn't one and who cares. I didn't stand up for the Gays because I'm not one and who cares. I didn't stand up for those who express dissent, because I love my government, so who cares. Then they came for me and no one stood up... because there was no one left.