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| Topic: What is the difference between religion and spirituality ?. | |
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For me, religion is organized spirituality, often associated with doctrines, rituals and traditions. Informal spirituality is not necessarily a “religion”. The very word ‘religion’ implies that things are done ‘religiously’ – dutifully, devotedly, consistently, loyally. In other words, the very word ‘religion’ implies ritual and tradition. So an informal spiritual behavior would be spirituality without adherence to ritual. Spirituality implies a belief in a spiritual essence of reality. Religion refers to the way those beliefs are conduced. All religions require spirituality. Spirituality does not require religion. Abra, I agree except there are non spiritual religious people. They are coldly by the book and really have no life to them at all. I met one and he was a Catholic priest. The coldest, meanest man I had ever met before. No spirit in him at all, sadly. with all due respect to you. I believe you are making a general judgment out of one person. I have no doubt that this priest is the way you describe him. I have known a lot like him. But also I have known a lot more the other way around. I respect your position towards religions, it's fine you have find peace through it, and I'm so happy for you. But please do not generalize, you will becoming like those christians who say all the rest of the people are sinners and all of them are going to hell. I believe you have a bigger heart than that. Peace Lonely, I said there are religious people who are not spiritual. I made no blanket statement. I used the Catholic priest as an example. This is not an attack of the Catholic church nor to religious people. Everyone is different. Everyone interprets religion and spirituality differently. My opinion is mine. I made no blanket statements against the church nor people in general. |
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For me, religion is organized spirituality, often associated with doctrines, rituals and traditions. Informal spirituality is not necessarily a “religion”. The very word ‘religion’ implies that things are done ‘religiously’ – dutifully, devotedly, consistently, loyally. In other words, the very word ‘religion’ implies ritual and tradition. So an informal spiritual behavior would be spirituality without adherence to ritual. Spirituality implies a belief in a spiritual essence of reality. Religion refers to the way those beliefs are conduced. All religions require spirituality. Spirituality does not require religion. Abra, I agree except there are non spiritual religious people. They are coldly by the book and really have no life to them at all. I met one and he was a Catholic priest. The coldest, meanest man I had ever met before. No spirit in him at all, sadly. with all due respect to you. I believe you are making a general judgment out of one person. I have no doubt that this priest is the way you describe him. I have known a lot like him. But also I have known a lot more the other way around. I respect your position towards religions, it's fine you have find peace through it, and I'm so happy for you. But please do not generalize, you will becoming like those christians who say all the rest of the people are sinners and all of them are going to hell. I believe you have a bigger heart than that. Peace I don’t see where Dragoness made a generality. She merely said that there are non-spiritual religious people. I have to agree with her on that point. I said that all religions require spirituality. But I didn’t mean to imply that all people who claim to be religious are spiritual. In other words it is quite possible to do things ‘religiously’ (ritually), yet have no spirituality at all. And I agree that a lot of people who claim to be “religious” are not the least bit spiritual even thought they may be highly ritualistic and dogmatic. |
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For me, religion is organized spirituality, often associated with doctrines, rituals and traditions. Informal spirituality is not necessarily a “religion”. The very word ‘religion’ implies that things are done ‘religiously’ – dutifully, devotedly, consistently, loyally. In other words, the very word ‘religion’ implies ritual and tradition. So an informal spiritual behavior would be spirituality without adherence to ritual. Spirituality implies a belief in a spiritual essence of reality. Religion refers to the way those beliefs are conduced. All religions require spirituality. Spirituality does not require religion. Abra, I agree except there are non spiritual religious people. They are coldly by the book and really have no life to them at all. I met one and he was a Catholic priest. The coldest, meanest man I had ever met before. No spirit in him at all, sadly. with all due respect to you. I believe you are making a general judgment out of one person. I have no doubt that this priest is the way you describe him. I have known a lot like him. But also I have known a lot more the other way around. I respect your position towards religions, it's fine you have find peace through it, and I'm so happy for you. But please do not generalize, you will becoming like those christians who say all the rest of the people are sinners and all of them are going to hell. I believe you have a bigger heart than that. Peace Lonely, I said there are religious people who are not spiritual. I made no blanket statement. I used the Catholic priest as an example. This is not an attack of the Catholic church nor to religious people. Everyone is different. Everyone interprets religion and spirituality differently. My opinion is mine. I made no blanket statements against the church nor people in general. Dragoness, I deeply apologyze I did not quite understand the first time I read your first sentence. I really thought you made a general statement. Now I see what you meant. Sorry. |
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For me, religion is organized spirituality, often associated with doctrines, rituals and traditions. Informal spirituality is not necessarily a “religion”. The very word ‘religion’ implies that things are done ‘religiously’ – dutifully, devotedly, consistently, loyally. In other words, the very word ‘religion’ implies ritual and tradition. So an informal spiritual behavior would be spirituality without adherence to ritual. Spirituality implies a belief in a spiritual essence of reality. Religion refers to the way those beliefs are conduced. All religions require spirituality. Spirituality does not require religion. Abra, I agree except there are non spiritual religious people. They are coldly by the book and really have no life to them at all. I met one and he was a Catholic priest. The coldest, meanest man I had ever met before. No spirit in him at all, sadly. with all due respect to you. I believe you are making a general judgment out of one person. I have no doubt that this priest is the way you describe him. I have known a lot like him. But also I have known a lot more the other way around. I respect your position towards religions, it's fine you have find peace through it, and I'm so happy for you. But please do not generalize, you will becoming like those christians who say all the rest of the people are sinners and all of them are going to hell. I believe you have a bigger heart than that. Peace Lonely, I said there are religious people who are not spiritual. I made no blanket statement. I used the Catholic priest as an example. This is not an attack of the Catholic church nor to religious people. Everyone is different. Everyone interprets religion and spirituality differently. My opinion is mine. I made no blanket statements against the church nor people in general. Dragoness, I deeply apologyze I did not quite understand the first time I read your first sentence. I really thought you made a general statement. Now I see what you meant. Sorry. No problem  |
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Religions are incorporated.
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For me, religion is organized spirituality, often associated with doctrines, rituals and traditions. Informal spirituality is not necessarily a “religion”. The very word ‘religion’ implies that things are done ‘religiously’ – dutifully, devotedly, consistently, loyally. In other words, the very word ‘religion’ implies ritual and tradition. So an informal spiritual behavior would be spirituality without adherence to ritual. Spirituality implies a belief in a spiritual essence of reality. Religion refers to the way those beliefs are conduced. All religions require spirituality. Spirituality does not require religion. Abra, I agree except there are non spiritual religious people. They are coldly by the book and really have no life to them at all. I met one and he was a Catholic priest. The coldest, meanest man I had ever met before. No spirit in him at all, sadly. Those are the people wouldee refers to as churchianity.
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For me, religion is organized spirituality, often associated with doctrines, rituals and traditions. Informal spirituality is not necessarily a “religion”. The very word ‘religion’ implies that things are done ‘religiously’ – dutifully, devotedly, consistently, loyally. In other words, the very word ‘religion’ implies ritual and tradition. So an informal spiritual behavior would be spirituality without adherence to ritual. Spirituality implies a belief in a spiritual essence of reality. Religion refers to the way those beliefs are conduced. All religions require spirituality. Spirituality does not require religion. Abra, I agree except there are non spiritual religious people. They are coldly by the book and really have no life to them at all. I met one and he was a Catholic priest. The coldest, meanest man I had ever met before. No spirit in him at all, sadly. with all due respect to you. I believe you are making a general judgment out of one person. I have no doubt that this priest is the way you describe him. I have known a lot like him. But also I have known a lot more the other way around. I respect your position towards religions, it's fine you have find peace through it, and I'm so happy for you. But please do not generalize, you will becoming like those christians who say all the rest of the people are sinners and all of them are going to hell. I believe you have a bigger heart than that. Peace I don’t see where Dragoness made a generality. She merely said that there are non-spiritual religious people. I have to agree with her on that point. I said that all religions require spirituality. But I didn’t mean to imply that all people who claim to be religious are spiritual. In other words it is quite possible to do things ‘religiously’ (ritually), yet have no spirituality at all. And I agree that a lot of people who claim to be “religious” are not the least bit spiritual even thought they may be highly ritualistic and dogmatic. Yeah, it kinda takes the joy out of the equation. Religion without spirituality is an empty shell to me.
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For me, religion is organized spirituality, often associated with doctrines, rituals and traditions. Informal spirituality is not necessarily a “religion”. The very word ‘religion’ implies that things are done ‘religiously’ – dutifully, devotedly, consistently, loyally. In other words, the very word ‘religion’ implies ritual and tradition. So an informal spiritual behavior would be spirituality without adherence to ritual. Spirituality implies a belief in a spiritual essence of reality. Religion refers to the way those beliefs are conduced. All religions require spirituality. Spirituality does not require religion. Abra, I agree except there are non spiritual religious people. They are coldly by the book and really have no life to them at all. I met one and he was a Catholic priest. The coldest, meanest man I had ever met before. No spirit in him at all, sadly. Those are the people wouldee refers to as churchianity. Those are the ones I call evil infiltrators of the Church and State. 
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"Religion" doesn't extend farther than the "rules" it lives by. Spiritual birth goes farther because it brings us into a change of heart or an agreement with something above & beyond our "selves."
The "law" isn't enough for us, we aren't robots. We have a spirit that testifies of God's Spirit. The aspect of us that we can't see is our spirit...our will... our emotions. (BTW... With that in mind how can anyone think there is no God is beyond me.) They need to be satisfied too. Only God can do that. |
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"Religion" doesn't extend farther than the "rules" it lives by. Spiritual birth goes farther because it brings us into a change of heart or an agreement with something above & beyond our "selves." The "law" isn't enough for us, we aren't robots. We have a spirit that testifies of God's Spirit. The aspect of us that we can't see is our spirit...our will... our emotions. (BTW... With that in mind how can anyone think there is no God is beyond me.) They need to be satisfied too. Only God can do that. Every moment of my life is a spiritual awakening. Therefore, you can say I am born anew each moment.
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Aloha & Namaste from a fellow newborn!
"O brave new world, That has such people in't!" --Shakespeare In my old life, I would have never imagined that life could be like this. Good to see you, Jeannie (Beautiful image, but I appreciated the old Tarot one more). I wish you Peace Beyond All Understanding, Michael |
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What do you think the difference between religion and spirituality ?. religion deals with a dictatorial god spirituality deals with an anarchical god |
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What do you think the difference between religion and spirituality ?. religion deals with a dictatorial god spirituality deals with an anarchical god What is an anarchical god? |
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What do you think the difference between religion and spirituality ?. religion deals with a dictatorial god spirituality deals with an anarchical god What is an anarchical god? it's a dictatorial god who's worshippers are in religious denial that they are actually religious |
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What do you think the difference between religion and spirituality ?. religion deals with a dictatorial god spirituality deals with an anarchical god What is an anarchical god? it's a dictatorial god who's worshippers are in religious denial that they are actually religious Then I respectfully disagree. I don't deny that I am spiritual or religious. I just don't belong to any religion except my own.
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What do you think the difference between religion and spirituality ?. religion deals with a dictatorial god spirituality deals with an anarchical god What is an anarchical god? it's a dictatorial god who's worshippers are in religious denial that they are actually religious Then I respectfully disagree. I don't deny that I am spiritual or religious. I just don't belong to any religion except my own. that you choose to make your own religion in spite of the religion the god has set forth is where the anarchy comes in |
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that you choose to make your own religion in spite of the religion the god has set forth is where the anarchy comes in God did not "set forth" any religion. It was the alien overlords who done that. 
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that you choose to make your own religion in spite of the religion the god has set forth is where the anarchy comes in God did not "set forth" any religion. It was the alien overlords who done that. they all belong to the same union |
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that you choose to make your own religion in spite of the religion the god has set forth is where the anarchy comes in God did not "set forth" any religion. It was the alien overlords who done that. they all belong to the same union
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I am with you there abra. I think we finally agree on something.  Yahoooo! One small step for man, one giant leap for mankind. Oh! sorry! I must have wandered into the wrong forum! 
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