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Topic: Evangelicals admit they are out of touch with mainstream Ame
Lindyy Joined Tue 01/01/08 Posts: 2699	Sat 05/03/08 08:25 PM
Lindyy---If you notice, I didnt say anything bad about Billy Graham. Well, yippee doo! Why not? After all Billy Graham is the GREATEST EVANGELICAL OF ALL MODERN TIME? Lindyy PTL Yes, he probably is is he the one in that commercial sitting on the bench with sharpton or is that a differnt one ?????????????????? OMG, if you do not know Billy Graham, just forget it. Good Grief.

MirrorMirror Joined Fri 10/26/07 Posts: 89680	Sat 05/03/08 08:26 PM
In my heart, perhaps I am a little jealous of people like you Lindyy. I wish I could trust these political and religious leaders. Everytime Ive tried, it has required turning my back on the suffering inflicted on my fellow man. I dont think anyone is worthless. I dont think its right to hurt people who are different from me. I just cant accept that Mirror: Jealous of WHAT? God is there for you just as He is for me!! You are just breaking His heart because you turn away from Him. Yet, He loves you unconditionally, and He understands your heart. He is just waiting for YOU to go to HIM. Lindyy PTL I wasnt talking about "GOD" Lindyy. I was talking about the human politicians and religious leaders that have us humans killing each other all over the world for "what is right".

MirrorMirror Joined Fri 10/26/07 Posts: 89680	Sat 05/03/08 08:31 PM Edited by MirrorMirror on Sat 05/03/08 08:32 PM
What is the Evangelical message nowadays? Is it "Kill-em All"? I know thats coming eventually. I wonder why evangelicals dont get along better with those nuts in the middle east. Evangelicals are becoming more like the MiddleEastern nuts every year. Mirror, You keep putting your foot in your mouth. If you read the Bible, God tells of exactly what is going to take place in the Mid East. ALL nations will turn against Israel. It has already been spoken by God, but yet Israel will prevail as God is their Lord, He will never leave them nor forsake them. Lindyy Whats your point? Maybe its true. Im done giving up on peace, giving up on love just because of what a 2000 year old scripture says. If its gonna happen then it will happen. So be it. God will take care of it. What does that got to do with the Evangelicals?.

Lindyy Joined Tue 01/01/08 Posts: 2699	Sat 05/03/08 08:31 PM
Lindyy-- Im tired of giving up on hope. Im tired of walking away from what is right just because some politicians and ministers say so. I love my fellow man. I dont like seeing them suffer. Im sure "GOD" doesnt either. Im tired of war and fear and being told thats all there is. I would rather be wrong than give up on my fellow man anymore no matter what they have done. Im sick and tired of giving up on love. I have said some strong things tonite. I stand by those words. I hate those that decieve and hurt my friends and family. Mirror: I really do not know where this is all coming from within you. I truly don't. USE your own mind. I am sorry, but Jesus has said that "there will be wars and rumors of wars." I cannot change God's plan for this earth. If you walk away from what YOU feel is right, that is ON YOU! Do NOT take the coward's way out and blame someone else. PLEASE, just read John 3:16. "For God so loved the world that He gave his only begotten son that whosever believeth in Him shall not perish but have life everlasting." NOW if God loved YOU Mirror, that much, why not go to Him for your hurts and questions. He will use the Holy Spirit to direct you. Lindyy

adj4u Joined Sun 04/08/07 Posts: 21254	Sat 05/03/08 08:33 PM
well it has been so long since i seen him and i am not good with faces i think they used there names but oh well guess it does not really matter here a gram there a gram everywhere a gram gram

yashafox_F4X1 Joined Sat 12/15/07 Posts: 2079	Sat 05/03/08 08:39 PM
I'm not sure of who's sitting with Sharpton. Pretty sure it's not Graham. I'm currently reading a great book by Graham. It's called Peace with God. I've learned two very important things from it: 1. Repentance involved the soul, mind and the body. With the mind we accept it and know it, with the soul we feel it and with the body we obey. 2. Salvation occurs with the infilling of the Holy Spirit. It is literally God living within us that brings us to eternal life. Got eternal life? You are literally an immortal living on the Earth (my conclusion, not Grahams on this immortal stuff, but still, mind boggling, in my book). All politics aside, folks.

MirrorMirror Joined Fri 10/26/07 Posts: 89680	Sat 05/03/08 08:39 PM
Lindyy-- Im tired of giving up on hope. Im tired of walking away from what is right just because some politicians and ministers say so. I love my fellow man. I dont like seeing them suffer. Im sure "GOD" doesnt either. Im tired of war and fear and being told thats all there is. I would rather be wrong than give up on my fellow man anymore no matter what they have done. Im sick and tired of giving up on love. I have said some strong things tonite. I stand by those words. I hate those that decieve and hurt my friends and family. Mirror: I really do not know where this is all coming from within you. I truly don't. USE your own mind. I am sorry, but Jesus has said that "there will be wars and rumors of wars." I cannot change God's plan for this earth. If you walk away from what YOU feel is right, that is ON YOU! Do NOT take the coward's way out and blame someone else. PLEASE, just read John 3:16. "For God so loved the world that He gave his only begotten son that whosever believeth in Him shall not perish but have life everlasting." NOW if God loved YOU Mirror, that much, why not go to Him for your hurts and questions. He will use the Holy Spirit to direct you. Lindyy I agree with 99% of what you just said except the part about "wars and rumors of wars". Yes, I have heard this my whole life. That is what i am talking about. Im tired of giving up on believing that peace can rule this world because of what some 2000 year old piece of scripture says. No matter who it is attributed to. I dont think humanity should suffer for this. Im not going to believe it. Im not going to give up on hope. Im refusing to believe that this is the end. Why not a begining?

MirrorMirror Joined Fri 10/26/07 Posts: 89680	Sat 05/03/08 08:41 PM
If we are all of value to "GOD" and can find redemption, why cant we find a new begining and not an end?

adj4u Joined Sun 04/08/07 Posts: 21254	Sat 05/03/08 08:41 PM
I'm not sure of who's sitting with Sharpton. Pretty sure it's not Graham. I'm currently reading a great book by Graham. It's called Peace with God. I've learned two very important things from it: 1. Repentance involved the soul, mind and the body. With the mind we accept it and know it, with the soul we feel it and with the body we obey. 2. Salvation occurs with the infilling of the Holy Spirit. It is literally God living within us that brings us to eternal life. Got eternal life? You are literally an immortal living on the Earth (my conclusion, not Grahams on this immortal stuff, but still, mind boggling, in my book). All politics aside, folks. i think it is a global warming ad (but not sure) do not pay that much attention to slanted points of view

adj4u Joined Sun 04/08/07 Posts: 21254	Sat 05/03/08 08:44 PM
googaled it it is robertson that makes more sense

MirrorMirror Joined Fri 10/26/07 Posts: 89680	Sat 05/03/08 08:48 PM
Thank you Lindyy sweetheart. I needed to have this discussion. It got a lot off of my chest. Thank you so much sweetheart. I feel a lot better now. vented LEE

Fanta46 Joined Sat 11/11/06 Posts: 29361	Sat 05/03/08 08:51 PM Edited by Fanta46 on Sat 05/03/08 08:53 PM
Lindyy-- Im tired of giving up on hope. Im tired of walking away from what is right just because some politicians and ministers say so. I love my fellow man. I dont like seeing them suffer. Im sure "GOD" doesnt either. Im tired of war and fear and being told thats all there is. I would rather be wrong than give up on my fellow man anymore no matter what they have done. Im sick and tired of giving up on love. I have said some strong things tonite. I stand by those words. I hate those that decieve and hurt my friends and family. Mirror: I really do not know where this is all coming from within you. I truly don't. USE your own mind. I am sorry, but Jesus has said that "there will be wars and rumors of wars." I cannot change God's plan for this earth. If you walk away from what YOU feel is right, that is ON YOU! Do NOT take the coward's way out and blame someone else. PLEASE, just read John 3:16. "For God so loved the world that He gave his only begotten son that whosever believeth in Him shall not perish but have life everlasting." NOW if God loved YOU Mirror, that much, why not go to Him for your hurts and questions. He will use the Holy Spirit to direct you. Lindyy I agree with 99% of what you just said except the part about "wars and rumors of wars". Yes, I have heard this my whole life. That is what i am talking about. Im tired of giving up on believing that peace can rule this world because of what some 2000 year old piece of scripture says. No matter who it is attributed to. I dont think humanity should suffer for this. Im not going to believe it. Im not going to give up on hope. Im refusing to believe that this is the end. Why not a begining? Amen brother! I have that same conversation with my Jehovah friends every Sat morning! I tell them they are doomsayers. That is the only thing they talk about. The end, and preach it as a fact while rejoicing in it. I tell them that unlike them I believe in hope and in human goodness. I dont believe we are lost yet! They respond by praying for my soul! Every Sat we go through this. I'm never mean to them nor do I ask them to leave. I believe I can save them from their pessimistic thoughts!! I pray for their souls. They are lost and dont know it!!

Lindyy Joined Tue 01/01/08 Posts: 2699	Sat 05/03/08 09:34 PM
Thank you Lindyy sweetheart. I needed to have this discussion. It got a lot off of my chest. Thank you so much sweetheart. I feel a lot better now. vented LEE Mirror: I understand. You are sooooo welcome. God's ways are higher than our ways, His thoughts are higher than our thoughts. That is in Isaiah. I do not understand everything, I just put my trust in Him. Believe me, I have had my times 'arguing' with God. He always wins though. Lindyy

mnhiker Joined Wed 02/14/07 Posts: 3771	Sun 05/04/08 10:21 AM
ARTIST: Leonard Bernstein TITLE: God Said Lyrics [Mass] God said, Let there be light, and there was God said, Let there be night, and there was God said, Let there be day, and there was Day to follow the night And it was good, brother And it was good, brother And it was good, brother And it was goddam good God said, Let there be storms Storms to bring life in all of its forms Forms such as herds and gaggles and swarms Swarms that have names and numbers and norms And it was good, sister And it was good, sister And it was good, sister And it was goddam good God said, Let there be gnats Let there be sprats to gobble the gnats So that the sprats may nourish the rats Making them fat, fine food for the cats And they grew fat, brother And they grew fat, brother All but the gnats, brother They all grew fearful fat And God saw it was good God made it be good Created it good Created the gnats to nourish the sprats to nurture the rats And all for us big fat cats Us fat cats! God said it's good to be poor Good men must not be secure So if we steal from you It's just to help you stay pure And it was good! And it was good, sister... God said take charge of my zoo I made these creatures for you So he won't mind if we Wipe out a species or two And it was good! And it was good, brother... God said to spread His commands To folks in faraway lands They may not want us there But man it's out of our hands And it was good! And it was good, sister... God said that sex should repulse Unless it leads to results And so we crowd the world Full of consenting adults And it was good! And it was good, brother... God said it's good to be meek And so we are once a week It may not mean a lot But oh, it's terribly chic And it was good! And it was good, sister... God made us the boss God gave us the cross We turned it into a sword To spread the Word of the Lord We use His holy decrees To do whatever we please And it was good, yeah And it was good, yeah And it was goddam good

Lindyy Joined Tue 01/01/08 Posts: 2699	Sun 05/04/08 08:54 PM
ARTIST: Leonard Bernstein TITLE: God Said Lyrics [Mass] God said, Let there be light, and there was God said, Let there be night, and there was God said, Let there be day, and there was Day to follow the night And it was good, brother And it was good, brother And it was good, brother And it was goddam good God said, Let there be storms Storms to bring life in all of its forms Forms such as herds and gaggles and swarms Swarms that have names and numbers and norms And it was good, sister And it was good, sister And it was good, sister And it was goddam good God said, Let there be gnats Let there be sprats to gobble the gnats So that the sprats may nourish the rats Making them fat, fine food for the cats And they grew fat, brother And they grew fat, brother All but the gnats, brother They all grew fearful fat And God saw it was good God made it be good Created it good Created the gnats to nourish the sprats to nurture the rats And all for us big fat cats Us fat cats! God said it's good to be poor Good men must not be secure So if we steal from you It's just to help you stay pure And it was good! And it was good, sister... God said take charge of my zoo I made these creatures for you So he won't mind if we Wipe out a species or two And it was good! And it was good, brother... God said to spread His commands To folks in faraway lands They may not want us there But man it's out of our hands And it was good! And it was good, sister... God said that sex should repulse Unless it leads to results And so we crowd the world Full of consenting adults And it was good! And it was good, brother... God said it's good to be meek And so we are once a week It may not mean a lot But oh, it's terribly chic And it was good! And it was good, sister... God made us the boss God gave us the cross We turned it into a sword To spread the Word of the Lord We use His holy decrees To do whatever we please And it was good, yeah And it was good, yeah And it was goddam good mnhiker: You are playing with fire when you mock God. I do not know what gets into you.

mnhiker Joined Wed 02/14/07 Posts: 3771	Sun 05/04/08 09:35 PM Edited by mnhiker on Sun 05/04/08 09:40 PM
ARTIST: Leonard Bernstein TITLE: God Said Lyrics [Mass] God said, Let there be light, and there was God said, Let there be night, and there was God said, Let there be day, and there was Day to follow the night And it was good, brother And it was good, brother And it was good, brother And it was goddam good God said, Let there be storms Storms to bring life in all of its forms Forms such as herds and gaggles and swarms Swarms that have names and numbers and norms And it was good, sister And it was good, sister And it was good, sister And it was goddam good God said, Let there be gnats Let there be sprats to gobble the gnats So that the sprats may nourish the rats Making them fat, fine food for the cats And they grew fat, brother And they grew fat, brother All but the gnats, brother They all grew fearful fat And God saw it was good God made it be good Created it good Created the gnats to nourish the sprats to nurture the rats And all for us big fat cats Us fat cats! God said it's good to be poor Good men must not be secure So if we steal from you It's just to help you stay pure And it was good! And it was good, sister... God said take charge of my zoo I made these creatures for you So he won't mind if we Wipe out a species or two And it was good! And it was good, brother... God said to spread His commands To folks in faraway lands They may not want us there But man it's out of our hands And it was good! And it was good, sister... God said that sex should repulse Unless it leads to results And so we crowd the world Full of consenting adults And it was good! And it was good, brother... God said it's good to be meek And so we are once a week It may not mean a lot But oh, it's terribly chic And it was good! And it was good, sister... God made us the boss God gave us the cross We turned it into a sword To spread the Word of the Lord We use His holy decrees To do whatever we please And it was good, yeah And it was good, yeah And it was goddam good mnhiker: You are playing with fire when you mock God. I do not know what gets into you. Lindyy, I'm not mocking God. I'm mocking those who claim God is on their side and use that to do anything they damn please for their own nefarious purposes. Because that is the ultimate blasphemy against God.

mnhiker Joined Wed 02/14/07 Posts: 3771	Sun 05/04/08 09:48 PM Edited by mnhiker on Sun 05/04/08 09:57 PM
Amen, Lindyy! The only thing saving America from complete collapse is God's forbearance. You better thank your lucky stars that our nation has the annointment and the favor of God. Columbine, school shootings, killings, crime. The only reason it doesn't go totally out of control is God's hand on us. If God withdrew his protection from us, there would be total chaos and disaster, mark well my words. I'm no great fan of MSNBC. I think they're grinding their own axe and distort the news from a liberal agenda and a liberal viewpoint that is not favorable toward God and the message the evangelicals provide. As for me and my house, we will worship the Lord and vote conservative. It's the way to maintain the liberty that has made this nation great the last 200 years or so. No one nation has the 'annointment and the favor of God'. That kind of zealous thinking is what led to the United States sticking it's nose into everyone elses business when it has no right to. Whenever a nation claims 'divine right', we're all in trouble. That's what led to the crusades and other atrocities of history. I'm sure the Taliban thinks it has 'divine right' as well.