pop quiz

someone give me an example of when war doesn't involve someone's freedom

That was mean.....

the war with your kids thwy always min lol love ya yellow lol just joking well not really my daughter gots me as her slave but hey who cares she such a sweetheart

my son is 6'0 tall and 17 and i can still when..no fight there. HE thinks he battles for his freedom lol...but he lives in momland....no freedom there lol

Nope!

seriously...can someone give me a war that has been fought that hasn't had to do with someone's freedom? it's either a war started to get their freedom from the ruling body or someone invading them and they have to protect their freedoms or a 3rd party trying to help another country to get freedom from their ruling body

am I wrong?????

NOPE! With you 100%, Rose!

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i wish someone could give me a war where it doesn't apply

I wasn't saying there are wars where freedom never applies, I was saying there are wars where freedom does not apply to you. Vietnam, was not a war for our freedom, the war in iraq is not a war for "Our" freedom. Freedom being The united states.(That last statement was my opinion of course, but I really don't see how it involves our freedom.)

The Crusades, there is an example of a war that did not involve freedom. Since you wanted one :P.

I am going to give an example, but I want it answered to the best of anyones abilities.

Let's say that a country, we will call this country Clyde, was attacked by another country, we will call this country Bonny.

The government structure of Clyde was destroyed and the people of Clyde were given the opportunity of being part of The United land masses of Bonny. Bonny was a carbon Copy of Clyde, in all of its rules etc. So basically the only thing that changed for the people was the name of their country, and the political figures.

Did they lose their freedom?

lol guy...i wasn't referring to you...just to anyone

BUT (and you had to know I'd have a but lol)the crusades....wrong. the ones that were invaded by the crusader (muslims) fought for there freedom

DING DING DING...I WIN AGAIN LOL

psst guy...I also said a 3rd party fighting for someone's freedom lol

but i forgive you there lol (kidding)

Nope, the crusades was not a battle of freedom. It was a battle for a single area. The Muslims wanted control of the area, because they see it as holy, and the Crusaders wanted control if because they saw it as holy. All they did was fight for Jerusalem. They were not interested in controlling the Muslims, or enforcing rules on them,or enslaving them, they wanted Jerusalem back.

Of course, this is probably one of the few few few super rare examples in history.

on a side note, I totally misunderstood the intent of what was written, such is the problem with text, you can't really get a feel on what emotion is being used lol

ahhhh but my friend...the crusaders went over THERE and tried to convert them and take the land as their own. the muslims were trying to fight for their freedom and to regain their land (aka....free it from the invaders)

ok....i'm heading to bed ....same bat time , same bat channel next time

if you guys debate without me....make it good....

They did try to convert muslims, but the only real area they tried, and did capture once, was Jerusalem. Of course there are too many Crusades to count and they all happened over the span of 100 years, so one of those had to fit the bill of what I was saying, eh?

Yarg, I be speakin without a debate partner.

TriZar....


I have not seen you in many many moons


How the heck are you, Bro???

Hey Rapunzel!

guy...because Clyde thought it was important to take control over Bonny...it's no longer under Bonny's rule. if the rules where the same...why would clyde need to invade bonny (lol this doesn't sound right lol)

but the fact that bonny fought back means they didn't want it and was losing something

HEY ROSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!