Topic: Do you believe ?
AdventurousOne's photo
Sun 04/20/08 01:38 PM


Was that to me Lily??


YES. The bible gets interpreted a million idfferent ways...who's right, and who's wrong..WHO CARES...

Thank the Goddess I'm a dirty Pagan....flowerforyou


OK, just checking. And no I do not care what they believe. But just like a point here, when the person said in the Bible it says "thou shalt not KILL". Well thats just not true. And its also my basis of belief. So I am not arguing nor trying to change what they believe, but can't sit back and have bad interpritation for readers. Because what the Bible (or anything for that matter) says does matter..what they think is something different.

It's as if someone were saying something that your mother said, but you know that's not what she said and it was a subject that mattered to you. Would you not correct it and at least let it be known what was really said?

I think you would..but maybe I'm worng. Like there I was just clarifying what is really there in the Bible, not what they believed in. flowerforyou

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Sun 04/20/08 01:43 PM

I did not quote - thou shalt not kill. The quotes are in quotation marks, tyvm. I used a commonly known saying instead of a direct quote for the sake of recognition. If this is your big issue with me then I'm really at a loss here. noway


That would be a point to look at, because I do NOT have any big issue with you..or even an issue at all really.

Just as you misinterprited my post as being an "attack", so can many, as some have, take things just like the "thou shalt not kill" into a form it was not meant to be....and I was only trying to clarify so that others might get clarification as well. flowerforyou

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Sun 04/20/08 01:48 PM

It's as if someone were saying something that your mother said, but you know that's not what she said and it was a subject that mattered to you. Would you not correct it and at least let it be known what was really said?



Yes, but something my mother said, and a book that was written a gazillion years ago are 2 different things. I'm not doubting the bible, or it's words, but the connotations of words change over time. So if someone wants to say Murder or Kill... who cares? We have no or little idea of what those words meant then and the connotations that they once held.

If I say that I am the embodyment of the Goddess, do I believe that the Goddess lives in me and "posses" me...No I mean that I try to live my life everyday to honor her. That although I am human I try to live a good clean life, and do good things for myself and for others...but the words technically mean "She lives in me"

All I am saying is, to enterprit a book written by God, threw man is a bit hard since we did not live in that time. So to allow for slack in the enterpritation should be allowable.

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Sun 04/20/08 01:49 PM
Edited by No1sLove on Sun 04/20/08 02:01 PM
That's fine with me, but the new revised standard version reads, verbatim, “you shall not murder” (notice the quotation marks used to indicate a direct quote) So, please advise the translation of your choice for future reference.

By attack, I was referring more so to your treatment of single than anything. I don't appreciate being picked on either, and that is what it felt like to me.


(for adventursomeone)

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Sun 04/20/08 01:50 PM

Do you believe that the spirits of dead pets hang around before going into heaven? I've been reading a really good book about ghost cats, where people encounter spirits of felines that came back to say "goodbye" to the owners, or sticking around and doing the same routines over everyday.
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I see spirits but I've never seen a spirit pet/animal

AdventurousOne's photo
Sun 04/20/08 01:53 PM


It's as if someone were saying something that your mother said, but you know that's not what she said and it was a subject that mattered to you. Would you not correct it and at least let it be known what was really said?



Yes, but something my mother said, and a book that was written a gazillion years ago are 2 different things. I'm not doubting the bible, or it's words, but the connotations of words change over time. So if someone wants to say Murder or Kill... who cares? We have no or little idea of what those words meant then and the connotations that they once held.

If I say that I am the embodyment of the Goddess, do I believe that the Goddess lives in me and "posses" me...No I mean that I try to live my life everyday to honor her. That although I am human I try to live a good clean life, and do good things for myself and for others...but the words technically mean "She lives in me"

All I am saying is, to enterprit a book written by God, threw man is a bit hard since we did not live in that time. So to allow for slack in the enterpritation should be allowable.


I understand your point. But just as something your mother says is very important to you, same can be said about something like the Bible to its followers. So the street runs both ways flowerforyou

And when it comes to definition, certain things actually do matter. To kill something and to murder something..well thats actually a HUGE difference. It's really not a small matter as a whole.

Again, I understand what you are saying and not trying to argue with you...just trying to relate this side as well. flowerforyou

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Sun 04/20/08 01:56 PM


I understand your point. But just as something your mother says is very important to you, same can be said about something like the Bible to its followers. So the street runs both ways flowerforyou

And when it comes to definition, certain things actually do matter. To kill something and to murder something..well thats actually a HUGE difference. It's really not a small matter as a whole.

Again, I understand what you are saying and not trying to argue with you...just trying to relate this side as well. flowerforyou


Then one last question that you can answer if you wish or keep to yourself.

Would your God be happy to see you attack people who also believe in him simply because they don't believe in the same manner that you do?

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Sun 04/20/08 02:03 PM


Then one last question that you can answer if you wish or keep to yourself.

Would your God be happy to see you attack people who also believe in him simply because they don't believe in the same manner that you do?


Ummm would answer, but the question implies I was attacking someone.

Maybe you can answer this one. Would you stand and let other's believe your mother said something, when you know she said different? flowerforyou

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Sun 04/20/08 02:08 PM



Then one last question that you can answer if you wish or keep to yourself.

Would your God be happy to see you attack people who also believe in him simply because they don't believe in the same manner that you do?


Ummm would answer, but the question implies I was attacking someone.

Maybe you can answer this one. Would you stand and let other's believe your mother said something, when you know she said different? flowerforyou
With that attitude you will be arguing with almost every person you encounter for your entire life. No wonder you're so grumpy. You must be exhausted! flowerforyou

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Sun 04/20/08 02:09 PM



Then one last question that you can answer if you wish or keep to yourself.

Would your God be happy to see you attack people who also believe in him simply because they don't believe in the same manner that you do?


Ummm would answer, but the question implies I was attacking someone.

Maybe you can answer this one. Would you stand and let other's believe your mother said something, when you know she said different? flowerforyou


If I know the truth, what else matters?

I'm a pretty outspoken person, and the people I chose as friends and associates know who I am, they know what I am about, and WHEN people try to slander me or trash talk me...which happens alot to people who are outspoken like myself. Those people who are loyal to me and I am loyal back, know better, so no arguement is needed.

Those who change their mind about me based on what others have said, I don't want as friends anyway.

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Sun 04/20/08 02:12 PM



Ummm would answer, but the question implies I was attacking someone.

Maybe you can answer this one. Would you stand and let other's believe your mother said something, when you know she said different? flowerforyou
With that attitude you will be arguing with almost every person you encounter for your entire life. No wonder you're so grumpy. You must be exhausted! flowerforyou


LOL..geez..what attitude???? noway And I'm sure that was a direct question for Lily. No one asked for you to chime in. Geez, at least I can get happy... but with your attitude and butting in you'll stay single the rest of your life. noway huh

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Sun 04/20/08 02:13 PM




Then one last question that you can answer if you wish or keep to yourself.

Would your God be happy to see you attack people who also believe in him simply because they don't believe in the same manner that you do?


Ummm would answer, but the question implies I was attacking someone.

Maybe you can answer this one. Would you stand and let other's believe your mother said something, when you know she said different? flowerforyou


If I know the truth, what else matters?

I'm a pretty outspoken person, and the people I chose as friends and associates know who I am, they know what I am about, and WHEN people try to slander me or trash talk me...which happens alot to people who are outspoken like myself. Those people who are loyal to me and I am loyal back, know better, so no arguement is needed.

Those who change their mind about me based on what others have said, I don't want as friends anyway.


OK, thanks for answering. flowerforyou

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Sun 04/20/08 02:14 PM
Looks like this thread needs a Reflaugh

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Sun 04/20/08 02:17 PM
Edited by No1sLove on Sun 04/20/08 02:20 PM




Ummm would answer, but the question implies I was attacking someone.

Maybe you can answer this one. Would you stand and let other's believe your mother said something, when you know she said different? flowerforyou
With that attitude you will be arguing with almost every person you encounter for your entire life. No wonder you're so grumpy. You must be exhausted! flowerforyou


LOL..geez..what attitude???? noway And I'm sure that was a direct question for Lily. No one asked for you to chime in. Geez, at least I can get happy... but with your attitude and butting in you'll stay single the rest of your life. noway huh
laugh laugh I'm laughing so hard I'm crying laugh laugh I don't think you're so bad...this is just a really hot button. flowerforyou God Bless!

And you're right, apologies to both you and Lily for butting in...it was just too funny to resist! laugh

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Sun 04/20/08 02:20 PM

Looks like this thread needs a Reflaugh


Come on in lady..its great exercise! people coming off the walls in here.

And to think it all started over a little cute kitty cat! noway :tongue: flowerforyou

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Sun 04/20/08 02:23 PM


Looks like this thread needs a Reflaugh


Come on in lady..its great exercise! people coming off the walls in here.

And to think it all started over a little cute kitty cat! noway :tongue: flowerforyou

Nope..I'm gonna sit over in the corner out of the way so I don't get trampled in the chaos..I'm in enough pain as it is..lol

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Sun 04/20/08 02:24 PM
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AdventurousOne's photo
Sun 04/20/08 02:25 PM



Looks like this thread needs a Reflaugh


Come on in lady..its great exercise! people coming off the walls in here.

And to think it all started over a little cute kitty cat! noway :tongue: flowerforyou

Nope..I'm gonna sit over in the corner out of the way so I don't get trampled in the chaos..I'm in enough pain as it is..lol


OK, can I sit over by you? Will buy you a drink. I'm done with my rounds in here. I don't like arguing. flowerforyou

LadyOfMagic's photo
Sun 04/20/08 02:28 PM




Looks like this thread needs a Reflaugh


Come on in lady..its great exercise! people coming off the walls in here.

And to think it all started over a little cute kitty cat! noway :tongue: flowerforyou

Nope..I'm gonna sit over in the corner out of the way so I don't get trampled in the chaos..I'm in enough pain as it is..lol


OK, can I sit over by you? Will buy you a drink. I'm done with my rounds in here. I don't like arguing. flowerforyou

You're one of the one's doing all the arguing..If I sit by you I'll get hurt for sure.laugh

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Sun 04/20/08 02:32 PM





Looks like this thread needs a Reflaugh


Come on in lady..its great exercise! people coming off the walls in here.

And to think it all started over a little cute kitty cat! noway :tongue: flowerforyou

Nope..I'm gonna sit over in the corner out of the way so I don't get trampled in the chaos..I'm in enough pain as it is..lol


OK, can I sit over by you? Will buy you a drink. I'm done with my rounds in here. I don't like arguing. flowerforyou

You're one of the one's doing all the arguing..If I sit by you I'll get hurt for sure.laugh


Nah, I think we got it all cleared up. I understand Lily's point. bigsmile