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I'm not sure about all that bro.But what I am certain of is that I don't want 2 buried in a Pet Semetary
 It's a S.King/Ramones thing. 
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I think it's a nice warm fuzzy feeling to think that the spirits of the ones we love "linger" but don't you think they have better things to do? My mom passed 11 years ago, and although I know she checks up every once in awhile to kick me in the ass.... I'm sure she's much to busy doing "spirit" things to hang around my house, or my 3 brothers houses, or my nephews house. Besided there's things I just prefer her not to see anyways....... If i'm stressing out or getting suicidal than my grand ma visits me in my dreams and tells me to get it in gear or she will send me to hell herself O_O |
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=If i'm stressing out or getting suicidal than my grand ma visits me in my dreams and tells me to get it in gear or she will send me to hell herself O_O Good grandma.... 
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Yeah i loved her alot, she was my best friend when i had no friends and i'm still trying to get over her death, it happend in 02
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Well heck I am a Christian here and do believe that animals hang around even after death...
 Just shows that we all have our own thoughts and needs. If you feel comfort with the spirits, they most certainly will come to be around you.... |
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Edited by
AdventurousOne
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Sun 04/20/08 10:47 AM
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There are two things I will no longer debate on this forum. One is religion, the other is constitutional rights. Both only end in name calling. Feel free to flame all you want, but I am sticking two my new rules. I will offer my opinion to a question, but I will no longer try to defend my position. Take what I wrote for what it is worth Hmm yet he tells me to "read the Bible"?? Somehting definitely wrong with that it seems. Opens mouth, inserts foot. Must be like one of those scientific types that said "humans don't dream in color" .. or "milk causes cancer" Just what I have seen... you opinion's worth.. ZERO! Why, because you have no specifics, just general blah blah.  Simple fact through simple THOUGHT. If "God" can make everything and put animals on earth, why could he not give them them a soul? Are there animals in heaven?? I'm pretty sure your Bible mentions this as well. Why don't YOU go read?? |
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I think it's a nice warm fuzzy feeling to think that the spirits of the ones we love "linger" but don't you think they have better things to do? My mom passed 11 years ago, and although I know she checks up every once in awhile to kick me in the ass.... I'm sure she's much to busy doing "spirit" things to hang around my house, or my 3 brothers houses, or my nephews house. Besided there's things I just prefer her not to see anyways....... ....girl we think so much alike ......my Daddy's been gone 11 yrs too ....my mentor ! and about the post....I've had my own feelings/intuitions about such things.....  ~w~ |
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Do you believe that the spirits of dead pets hang around before going into heaven? I've been reading a really good book about ghost cats, where people encounter spirits of felines that came back to say "goodbye" to the owners, or sticking around and doing the same routines over everyday. Explain "soul". Kat Whaaaat!!??? You my friend were awfully quick to ASSUME my intention. I was looking for an answer to give but due to what I may believe, felt I needed to know what you believed. No religious rant or God thoughts were ever going to be used. In order to answer I needed your explaination of "soul". Kat |
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Cloudy......Ive seen the ghosts of pets before........and yes they do have souls just like all living things.....
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Soul to me, is James Brown.
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Cloudy......Ive seen the ghosts of pets before........and yes they do have souls just like all living things..... What did Eric see??? 
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Soul to me, is James Brown. Is he still alive???? 
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Soul to me, is James Brown. I like the soul of Amy Winehouse myself.... which by the way you look more like than Kat Von D. |
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I have had and have animals. They are the most precious things ever. The love, the comfort and full attention they give me gives me great comfort.
I do not see how something so wonderful and loving cannot have a soul. I have seen them in pain. It is the same as ours. I have seen them feel mine, felt them feel mine. They hover close when I am in turmoil or worry. If I have an owie, they know it. If I am sad they know it. When I am happy they feed off it. If they have been bad...they know it. They feel guilt. They feel remorse. I do not believe humans have the corner on souls. It just may be they have deeper ones than we do. Kat |
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I have had and have animals. They are the most precious things ever. The love, the comfort and full attention they give me gives me great comfort. I do not see how something so wonderful and loving cannot have a soul. I have seen them in pain. It is the same as ours. I have seen them feel mine, felt them feel mine. They hover close when I am in turmoil or worry. If I have an owie, they know it. If I am sad they know it. When I am happy they feed off it. If they have been bad...they know it. They feel guilt. They feel remorse. I do not believe humans have the corner on souls. It just may be they have deeper ones than we do. Kat Most definitely AGREE! And don;t you love watching your pet DREAM! My dog, she will run in her sleep..do the growls, barking, etc. She understands exactly what I am saying most of the time. Animals are SMART! OK, not all, but MANY. Some can even be THINKERS and have an actual logical thought pattern! I have seen this first hand. I was in a parking lot (about 6-8 months ago) and I kept hearing a "dog bark". After several minutes of this I took a look around to see what was going on. The barking I heard was NOT from a DOG!!! There were two black birds by a camper. A dog was tied up outside, but he wasn;t doing the barking! One of the black birds would sit at one end of the camper just around the corner and "bark". The dog would get up to try to see what the barking was and go to that end of the camper. Then the other black bird would run up to the dog food bowl and take the dog food! So no one on this earth can try to tell me animals can;t actually THINK! That is THOUGHT in is PUREST FORM! And I agree also, animals are loving, loyal, devoted .. a sight better than most humans!
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There are two things I will no longer debate on this forum. One is religion, the other is constitutional rights. Both only end in name calling. Feel free to flame all you want, but I am sticking two my new rules. I will offer my opinion to a question, but I will no longer try to defend my position. Take what I wrote for what it is worth Hmm yet he tells me to "read the Bible"?? Somehting definitely wrong with that it seems. Opens mouth, inserts foot. Must be like one of those scientific types that said "humans don't dream in color" .. or "milk causes cancer" Just what I have seen... you opinion's worth.. ZERO! Why, because you have no specifics, just general blah blah. Simple fact through simple THOUGHT. If "God" can make everything and put animals on earth, why could he not give them them a soul? Are there animals in heaven?? I'm pretty sure your Bible mentions this as well. Why don't YOU go read?? |
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feel how you want. Have a wonderful day It's not a "feeling"..it's a common sense thought process. You can be sitting on a train track..and FEEL like you just want to sit there..but when a train is coming, which takes authority..you feeling like sitting there, or the common sense thinking that say "if I sit here the train WILL hit me" and you move? Feeling are fine..but they also have thier place.
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I feel that reading this thread has been an enjoyable experience for me.
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rhitorical question here...
wasn't it the indians that had their animal spirits? some cultures would send the teen boys off to a place of solitude, and their animal spirit would visit them, give them direction n' all that i can't say i've ever seen, or felt an animal spirit, however, do believe in them, i've felt my grandma, about a month after she passed, felt her in the room, heard her footsteps, smelled her cigar smokes, i know she was there, but never saw her tho |
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I have had and have animals. They are the most precious things ever. The love, the comfort and full attention they give me gives me great comfort. I do not see how something so wonderful and loving cannot have a soul. I have seen them in pain. It is the same as ours. I have seen them feel mine, felt them feel mine. They hover close when I am in turmoil or worry. If I have an owie, they know it. If I am sad they know it. When I am happy they feed off it. If they have been bad...they know it. They feel guilt. They feel remorse. I do not believe humans have the corner on souls. It just may be they have deeper ones than we do. Kat Most definitely AGREE! And don;t you love watching your pet DREAM! My dog, she will run in her sleep..do the growls, barking, etc. She understands exactly what I am saying most of the time. Animals are SMART! OK, not all, but MANY. Some can even be THINKERS and have an actual logical thought pattern! I have seen this first hand. I was in a parking lot (about 6-8 months ago) and I kept hearing a "dog bark". After several minutes of this I took a look around to see what was going on. The barking I heard was NOT from a DOG!!! There were two black birds by a camper. A dog was tied up outside, but he wasn;t doing the barking! One of the black birds would sit at one end of the camper just around the corner and "bark". The dog would get up to try to see what the barking was and go to that end of the camper. Then the other black bird would run up to the dog food bowl and take the dog food! So no one on this earth can try to tell me animals can;t actually THINK! That is THOUGHT in is PUREST FORM! And I agree also, animals are loving, loyal, devoted .. a sight better than most humans! I have watched my own dogs problem solve. It is quite ammusing. My mom and I often revel at their logic, their ability to find a solution. Kat |
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