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McCain wants to suspend the federal tax on a gallon of gas say through Labor day, Hillary wants to spend billions on renewable energy, and Obama is talking about a windfalls profit tax on oil companies.
McCain probably has come up with the best idea to immediately help the economy. I have notice a few less cars in the Wal Mart shopping lots. Obama may have the worst idea - http://www.taxfoundation.org/news/show/1168.html |
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Eat more beans.
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yeah it seems like Obama is losing steam very quickly
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Eat more beans. My toilet is my gas tank on my car but I keep having having to change the filter!!! |
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OK, now I see. You are just an Obama basher. This isn;t just to "post information"..you have a target.
As to the economic situation, the American people let it happen, let them get themselves out of it. ( I am an American by the way, so I'm not saying from an outsiders view) And to the oil companies, GREAT JOB!!! You have lived the American dream..supply and demand! Make that profit as ALL business is set out to do! Let the American selfishness and stupidy line your pockets with gold! All this when all the people would have had to do is CONSERVE! To do what they needed to to cut back on demand and that would lower the prices. The Americans are getting almost as bad as the French in erogance!  And to you Obama basher...keep trying to lead the sheep off the cliffs...its been working.  (please note this post was dipped in very heavy sarcasm before posting)    
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OK, now I see. You are just an Obama basher. This isn;t just to "post information"..you have a target. As to the economic situation, the American people let it happen, let them get themselves out of it. ( I am an American by the way, so I'm not saying from an outsiders view) And to the oil companies, GREAT JOB!!! You have lived the American dream..supply and demand! Make that profit as ALL business is set out to do! Let the American selfishness and stupidy line your pockets with gold! All this when all the people would have had to do is CONSERVE! To do what they needed to to cut back on demand and that would lower the prices. The Americans are getting almost as bad as the French in erogance! And to you Obama basher...keep trying to lead the sheep off the cliffs...its been working. (please note this post was dipped in very heavy sarcasm before posting) Just an Obama basher - not true I seriously gave the man an ear for a short while..... |
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I sure Senator McCain is able to pull this off. Would be great, even if just for the summer.
Lindyy 
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(please note this post was dipped in very heavy sarcasm before posting) the proper way is <sarcastic mode off> That way YellowRose knows when you are being a wise-ass, and when you stop. |
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Just an Obama basher - not true I seriously gave the man an ear for a short while..... OK, thats fine..now spit out all the crap for Clinton and McCain??? They both have LONG lists of dirty laundry too. Hell every career politician does. Seriously, what do you expect here??? ANY career politician already bought and paid for..you'll get basically what you want to hear and absolutely NOTHING will change. I have personally seen 40 years of it and realized it for well more than 20. The EXACT same issues STILL UNRESOLVED! Edication! Social Security, Poverty, chit in the middle east (where we should NOT have our nose in PERIOD...what happens in other countries is NOT our business! Even foriegn aid?? WTH??? Lets fix the USA problems FIRST, then we are in a position to help others! They keep the smoke and mirror machines going and people still fall for it all. There is an old addage that remains very true... THOSE WHO CAN NOT LEARN FROM HISTORY ARE DOOMED TO REPEAT IT! ...so I can already see the writing on the wall and America is DOOMED to fall, because the people are not intelligent enough to have learned from the past. Both sad and pathetic, because we once were the greatest country in the world! Wow, that was a short empire span of less than 200 years. |
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(please note this post was dipped in very heavy sarcasm before posting) the proper way is <sarcastic mode off> That way YellowRose knows when you are being a wise-ass, and when you stop. LOL, honestly, I don't think many can even realize the difference even when you spell it out for them anymore.
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Edited by
AdventurousOne
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Wed 04/16/08 06:44 PM
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I sure Senator McCain is able to pull this off. Would be great, even if just for the summer. Lindyy Please explain to what that will do? It will lighten Americans load just that tad bit so they can CONTINUE to glutteny for the summer? Then we loose all those tax dollars and simply build on the national debt for later????? That's just like thinking by using a credit card you are saving anything??? NO! You still have to pay for it..and worst yet (just like the national debt) NOW YOU HAVE INTEREST TO PAY ON TOP! So explain please....how would that help????? I for one do not want my family and grandchildren and down the line to be paying for anyone elses stupidity! |
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They will never get it.
You cant just print money to cover the debt and expect it to boost the economy. Without the tax on gas, where will the money come from. Never and I mean never, Look a gift horse in the mouth! Can you pay your bills at home without an income?
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They will never get it. You cant just print money to cover the debt and expect it to boost the economy. Without the tax on gas, where will the money come from. Never and I mean never, Look a gift horse in the mouth! Can you pay your bills at home without an income? We disagreed on the Olympic boycott....but I totally agree with you on this one!
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There all liars who will screw us in the end somehow.
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Edited by
Fanta46
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Wed 04/16/08 08:40 PM
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ExxonCorp,
Last year made 40 billion in Profits! That is the largest profit ever recorded for a company in history!
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http://tailrank.com/4993474/Exxon-s-2007-Tax-Bill
With a tax rate of 41% on its taxable income, one corporation(Exxon Mobile) pays as much taxes as the entire bottom 50% of individual tax payers - 65,000,000 people Exxon Mobile paid 30 billion in taxes in 2007 In 2006, 27 billion in taxes paid. As far as the gas tax break, it could be the difference between gas or medicine or gas or food or gas and a job. |
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ExxonCorp, Last year made 40 billion in Profits! That is the largest profit ever recorded for a company in history! And I applaud Exxon!!! They did just as they set out to do as day1 of thier business, make it success and PROFITABLE! Not for only them but all thier shareholders and thier employees! That is basic business 101, supply and demand. You have the demand, makes the price go UP. You decrease demand, supply goes up and cost go DOWN. The government has NO BUSINESS IN BUSINESS in MANY cases! Certain regulation must exist in some basic forms, but to attempt to restrict a company from making a profit (of ANY size), is NOT for our government to decide! We, as comsumers have the power to change that ourselves! Simply by CONSERVATION! That alone would help greatly! And the way the marketeers are manipulating the oil prices..my God man!! If there is ANYTHING our government should do is to stop the manipulators from fleecing the sheep! In oil, in the stock market...look what happened in housing..all done by MANIPULATION!!! We are headed straight for the depression crash! And it's NOT far off brother!
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Edited by
Fanta46
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Wed 04/16/08 10:47 PM
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The government has NO BUSINESS IN BUSINESS in MANY cases! Certain regulation must exist in some basic forms, but to attempt to restrict a company from making a profit (of ANY size), is NOT for our government to decide!
Without this price gouging would run rampant! Two years in a row these oil giants have made these obscene profits. Made them with excuses mind you. None having to do with the price per barrel of oil. In these two years, their major A #1 excuse refinery capabilities, has received only about 12 billion to address. barely enough to maintain their current capabilities! Transportation in this country is a necessity just as groceries! Its not a luxury, you either have it or you die! If they raised the cost of bread and corn 3-400%, you'd say something, right! What gives an oil company the right to unchecked profits when we are all dependent on their product! I'll tell you. Two reasons, Bush and Cheney!
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Edited by
AdventurousOne
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Wed 04/16/08 11:07 PM
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The government has NO BUSINESS IN BUSINESS in MANY cases! Certain regulation must exist in some basic forms, but to attempt to restrict a company from making a profit (of ANY size), is NOT for our government to decide! Without this price gouging would run rampant! Two years in a row these oil giants have made these obscene profits. Made them with excuses mind you. None having to do with the price per barrel of oil. In these two years, their major A #1 excuse refinery capabilities, has received only about 12 billion to address. barely enough to maintain their current capabilities! Transportation in this country is a necessity just as groceries! Its not a luxury, you either have it or you die! If they raised the cost of bread and corn 3-400%, you'd say something, right! What gives an oil company the right to unchecked profits when we are all dependent on their product! I'll tell you. Two reasons, Bush and Cheney! Yes, certain things are needed, I don;t argue that. But that is well less than HALF of this nations comsumption! The rest is the lazy ass American who feels the need to drive thier HUMMER down 6 blocks to the convenience store to grabs some chips to widen thier already fat ass, instead of walking down. I don;t see many stepping out to take a bus to work, traffic jams all over the country with millions of cars, with onlyt ONE PERSON in them! So BS! There are hundreds of real ways for America to cut down its DEPENDANCY, or should I say LAZINESS and SELFISHNESS! I have vehicles, yet I ride the city bus as often as i can..serves two fold, I conserve on fuel and it gives me a little exercise to boot. I don't need to save the money, I could better afford it than most Americans, i do it because i don;t just pay lip service, I put ACTION behind it! I DO MY PART and not just talk about it. Now tell me how much could be saved? I say at LEAST 50% reduction. How can i say that? Because I cut mine down by 63% in 2007 (I kept logs), so I'm not just guessing. I also switched over to partial solar panels and looking into the wind turbines for this area. So I speak from first hand experience and I know its not some major task, its actually VERY EASY to do. And the oil companies "gouging"?? My *ass, they are making thier profit and they are entitled too. If you were selling shoes and found that people would pay $50 for the shoes you usually sell for $20, you're telling me you would not sell them for the $50?? My *asss you wouldn;t and you sell at what people will pay. The bigger the profit the better for you and you would be very happy! It's another simple issue. you don;t like it, then DO SOMETHING about it, stop your dependency on it, or at the very least LOWER you depndency on it. Conserve and the price goes DOWN! It's the CONSUMERS responsibility, NOT the governments. Oh and as to Bush and Cheney..holy sheep chit Batman!! They are BOTH OIL OWNED..geez frickin Louis! Don't you know who these guys are??? The Bush family has so much oil interest it flows from every oraphis of thier bodies..and Cheney...one word.. HALLIBURTON!!!! Cheney made like 2.6 MILLION dollars last year (was listed on CNN) and he make 225K as VP...the rest was from HALLIBURTON OIL MONEY!!!!
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The government has NO BUSINESS IN BUSINESS in MANY cases! Certain regulation must exist in some basic forms, but to attempt to restrict a company from making a profit (of ANY size), is NOT for our government to decide! Without this price gouging would run rampant! Two years in a row these oil giants have made these obscene profits. Made them with excuses mind you. None having to do with the price per barrel of oil. In these two years, their major A #1 excuse refinery capabilities, has received only about 12 billion to address. barely enough to maintain their current capabilities! Transportation in this country is a necessity just as groceries! Its not a luxury, you either have it or you die! If they raised the cost of bread and corn 3-400%, you'd say something, right! What gives an oil company the right to unchecked profits when we are all dependent on their product! I'll tell you. Two reasons, Bush and Cheney! Yes, certain things are needed, I don;t argue that. But that is well less than HALF of this nations comsumption! The rest is the lazy ass American who feels the need to drive thier HUMMER down 6 blocks to the convenience store to grabs some chips to widen thier already fat ass, instead of walking down. I don;t see many stepping out to take a bus to work, traffic jams all over the country with millions of cars, with onlyt ONE PERSON in them! So BS! There are hundreds of real ways for America to cut down its DEPENDANCY, or should I say LAZINESS and SELFISHNESS! I have vehicles, yet I ride the city bus as often as i can..serves two fold, I conserve on fuel and it gives me a little exercise to boot. I don't need to save the money, I could better afford it than most Americans, i do it because i don;t just pay lip service, I put ACTION behind it! I DO MY PART and not just talk about it. Now tell me how much could be saved? I say at LEAST 50% reduction. How can i say that? Because I cut mine down by 63% in 2007 (I kept logs), so I'm not just guessing. I also switched over to partial solar panels and looking into the wind turbines for this area. So I speak from first hand experience and I know its not some major task, its actually VERY EASY to do. And the oil companies "gouging"?? My *ass, they are making thier profit and they are entitled too. If you were selling shoes and found that people would pay $50 for the shoes you usually sell for $20, you're telling me you would not sell them for the $50?? My *asss you wouldn;t and you sell at what people will pay. The bigger the profit the better for you and you would be very happy! It's another simple issue. you don;t like it, then DO SOMETHING about it, stop your dependency on it, or at the very least LOWER you depndency on it. Conserve and the price goes DOWN! It's the CONSUMERS responsibility, NOT the governments. Oh and as to Bush and Cheney..holy sheep chit Batman!! They are BOTH OIL OWNED..geez frickin Louis! Don't you know who these guys are??? The Bush family has so much oil interest it flows from every oraphis of thier bodies..and Cheney...one word.. HALLIBURTON!!!! Cheney made like 2.6 MILLION dollars last year (was listed on CNN) and he make 225K as VP...the rest was from HALLIBURTON OIL MONEY!!!! LMAO, I just erased a 500 word post  FUK!
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