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You're being played. Someone is telling you the wrong thing in hopes of something going away quietly.
I don't care what bass-ackward hick town someone lives in, there are specific regulations that local courts MUST follow in regards to any divorce decree and petitions filed WITH the court. He cannot assume custody if you truly have a "joint custody" arraingement. One does not go to counseling and assume custody. That's not how the real world works. Until you contact a (decent) attorney, you will continue to be pushed around by whatever the cops want to tell you and the miserable SOB you call an ex-husband. Sorry babes. I wish I was closer, I'd be able to do more. I contacted my attorney (Florida bar) and he doesn't have an associates or contacts in the state of Kansas. He basically told me the same thing, until you get someone who knows what they're doing, and is willing to WORK for you at it, you're at the mercy of whomever is telling you what they're telling you. |
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Edited by
ellgee1976
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Wed 04/16/08 04:23 PM
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You're being played. Someone is telling you the wrong thing in hopes of something going away quietly. I don't care what bass-ackward hick town someone lives in, there are specific regulations that local courts MUST follow in regards to any divorce decree and petitions filed WITH the court. He cannot assume custody if you truly have a "joint custody" arraingement. One does not go to counseling and assume custody. That's not how the real world works. Until you contact a (decent) attorney, you will continue to be pushed around by whatever the cops want to tell you and the miserable SOB you call an ex-husband. Sorry babes. I wish I was closer, I'd be able to do more. I contacted my attorney (Florida bar) and he doesn't have an associates or contacts in the state of Kansas. He basically told me the same thing, until you get someone who knows what they're doing, and is willing to WORK for you at it, you're at the mercy of whomever is telling you what they're telling you. i may have been unclear..not assume custody, but continue with the custody he has, which is residential, joint, and shared this is nothing i wish for more, than to have full custody of her right now, with him having every other weekend if even that |
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I can't believe with a investigation that Dept. of Social services hasn't removed her from the house.... out of the cituation..... until they investigate it. What if it happens again?
I pray that it all works out... poor little girl, and you are beside yourself.... |
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I can't believe with a investigation that Dept. of Social services hasn't removed her from the house.... out of the cituation..... until they investigate it. What if it happens again? I pray that it all works out... poor little girl, and you are beside yourself.... apparently, that has to be a judge's decision, instead of SRS or even mine |
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Last night, around 9:30pm, a friend of mine invited me to go for a drink at the local bar in town. On our way there, i saw my ex- husband's 2 vehicles parked at the police station. i called him, left a message on his phone asking about our daughter, if she was ok. X hubs called back within minutes, i asked him if everything was ok with our daughter, cuz i saw his 2 vehicles at the police station, and saw his wife's daughter go inside with her baby, along with his wife's son. The man told me it was none of my buisness, and hung up on me. (if the vehicles were there, having something to do with his new wife, or her children, i agree, it IS none of my buisness, and im ok with that) my main concern at this point, is the welfar of my daughter, last week there was a bruise on her cheek, she 'claimed' was a dog bite. i was unaware of a dog at her house. she said it was Joe's dog, (my X hub's wife's son) however, it didn't apear to be a dog bite, no teeth marks, and the pressure point appeared to be in the center of the bruise, not the outside edges. the school documented it, thinking it wasn't a dog bite either, they have told me they suspect abuse. i didn't get any yes or no answer from him tho, so i phoned the police station myself, asking if my daughter was there. i gave the dispatcher (Connie) her description, (my daughter is 4 yrs old) and Connie said that she hadn't seen her, if she did, she'd have an officer return my phone call. so, on to the local bar to have our drink. while there, i was getting a nervous feeling, one i couldn't shake. i kept an eye on the door, outside on the road, for the X hub's 2 vehicles. after an hour, i still hadn't seen them go by. I called the police station yet again, and asked if my daughter was there. Connie told me yes, and asked me to hold on, she'd let me talk to an officer. the officer (Todd) got on the phone, and told me that there wasn't a need to be alarmed, however, an official investigation will be started. he said that the story was, that my daughter had been 'spanked' and that there was bruising that was unaccounted for. they did take pictures and SRS (child services) will be called. i asked if i could go there, to see her, to hold her, and make sure physically that she was ok, to know in my heart that she was ok. the officer said yes, and asked if there was a custody dispute. My X hubs has been refusing to let me see her, due to my not being employed right now. This is not a condition in our custody/visitation orders. he's in the wrong by not allowing me to see her, and he knows this, therefore, i told the officer about his. the officer told me not go come to the police station yet. he said he wanted to talk to my X hubs, and then he'd call me back i stayed put and waited, and drank a soda incase i had to drive. the officer called back, said i could see her, but had to remain calm, no arguing with the X hubs. i told him i didn't care to see the X hubs, i just wanted to hold my daughter, and he said that was fine, tho he'd have to be in the room with me, i told the officer i had no problem with that. i went to the police station, walked into the room, and there was my daughter. seemed at first glance unharmed, perfectly fine. i hugged her, she told me she'd missed me, and then sat her on my lap and we 'chatted' as much as a 4 yr old could 'chat'. her hair was in her eyes, so i moved it away with my hands, and that's when i noticed, she has a bruise by her right eye brow, pointing towards her forehead, a bruise above her left eye, closer to her hairline. both were a bit swollen. so i kissed 'em both, and told her i loved her. she showed me all her owies then. 2 small ones on her left arm, looked like rug burns (i wasn't conserned about them) but kissed them anyways. i noticed she had to spots on her chin, so i asked her what was on her chin, after looking closer, i noticed they were scabs. she claimed they were both food on her chin from dinner, and started to pick at them. i told her it wasn't food, and then she told me that she fell outside in the drive, and bumped her chin on the gravel that was out there. (this story is reasonable, she's kinda clutsy at 4) she continued to pick at them, i told her to stop, cuz they'll bleed and then yukky blood will get all over her pretty jammies. and then i kissed them too. we sat there, talking, she sang some of her songs from school to me, Baby Baloogah, and the song her father made up for her, then the song i made up for her. she smiled, hugged me, and kissed me on the cheek and told me she loved me. i asked her if she'd been working on her winking, she told me yes, and showed me, it was cute, we laughed. then i told her, why not show the officer how she winks, she played shy, and then winked at him too. i asked her if she was sleepy, of course she'd told me no, and i explained that it was way past bed time, i took my watch off, showed it to her, and asked her what it said. she replied that is said one, two, zero, one...12:01am i explained to her that bedtime was 4 hrs ago, and that she should be really really tired by now. so i just held her and rocked her. a few minutes went by, and she hopped off my lap. i asked her where my luvins were, and she hugged me. i had my arms around her little waist, and hugged her back. that's when she said "ouch mommy" i asked her what i did, i was only hugging her. she took her jacket off, and showed me her lower back, it was red (i had already been at the police station for an hr, and her back was still red, it will turn into a bruise, and it will be big). i told her i was sorry for hurting her, and i hugged her again, only this time with my hands higher on her back towards her shoulders. i looked at the officer, and he nodded and said yes, pictures were taken. i noticed then that my daughter was wearing a pullup. i asked her why she was in one (i haven't put a pullup on her in over a yr, even at night) she looked down, and told me that she had wet the bed. i asked her why, she said she didn't know, so i asked if she was just too tired to get up to go potty, she said yes. after 'chatting' and laughing with my daughter, another officer came in and said it was time to go. so i told my daughter, when you see daddy, tell him it's way past bed time and give him a hug. she said ok. i helped her put her coat on, and she had to zip it herself. i also told her, that if she goes straight to sleep, she MIGHT be able to wake up in time for school in the morning, but if she didn't make it to school, then it would be ok, cuz she was up so late. i told her that her 'school family' missed her also (she hasn't been in school this week yet) i told her if she DID go to school in the morning, that i'd see her at the school, for a few minutes before dad picked her up. she said ok, and kissed me good night. an officer led her out of the room, and i asked him what the story was, he told me that he couldn't tell me, due to it being an 'ongoing investigation' i told him that im her mother, i have joint custody, and can prove it with my divorce papers that were in my car. he said that didn't matter. i told him i have a need to place blame, and i don't want to. i just need to know that she's ok. i asked him if she could come home with me, he told me that it would be best for her psychologically if she'd go home with her dad, and keep as much 'normalcy' as possible. i said i understood that, but asked, what happens if she's in danger out there at his house? that's when he said that they had to do a 'home' something something...a technical term.. basically that they had to follow the X hubs to his place, check it out, and make sure she was ok being there. i gave them the number where i could be reached (im house siting right now for a friend) and then left. now, my question, other than getting my lawyer informed, and subpoena-ing the police report...what is my next move? what can i legally do, cuz sitting and waiting, knowing he's not informing me of anything, is killing me. i apreciate everyone that took the time to read all this i know it was long. any advice is apreciated...please, no joking about this Directly talk too child services and express your concern, as far as getting the police report the officer was right if it is an "on-going investigation" they probably won't be able to let you see it regardless of a lawyer intervening. Talk to an attorney about working some kind of custody deal, and if your not able to take custody (due to not working) see if a grandparent or another guardian would be able too. Check up with the situation as much as possible (not daily but do a call in about once a week), the problem with a situation involving a child so young is that they may not be apt to telling the entire story much less the truth. Definatly get ahold of an attorney and child services. |
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it looks as if you have rec'd some good advice......so......
take these; |
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Lawyer time Sweetie! He is not abiding by the rules of
joint custody... see if there is a legal aide around there to help (sometimes free). You also need to talk with the caseworker or social worker that is handeling this incident. She should deffinately not be around that stuff. Someone is abusing her and therefore you should have the right as her Mother to get her removed from that situation. Someone is playing you for a fool big time!!! Don't let them!!! I am praying for your little one and you... |
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Directly talk too child services and express your concern, as far as getting the police report the officer was right if it is an "on-going investigation" they probably won't be able to let you see it regardless of a lawyer intervening. Talk to an attorney about working some kind of custody deal, and if your not able to take custody (due to not working) see if a grandparent or another guardian would be able too. Check up with the situation as much as possible (not daily but do a call in about once a week), the problem with a situation involving a child so young is that they may not be apt to telling the entire story much less the truth. Definatly get ahold of an attorney and child services. i have talked to the SRS woman over the phone, she told me also that she cannot give details, however she'll keep me updated personally. ddn122- thank you MsTeddyBear2u - i agree, he isn't abiding by the rules of join custody. my attny for the divorce was from Legal Aide, he will be getting ahold of me in the morning, and i'll see what i can do as her mother about the situation, thank you |
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Prayers to you
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If you are the least bit concerned about your child's welfare...immediately get protective services involved and stay the hell out of the bars yourself!!!
I am sorry if I am sounding a bit self-righteous here, but when you have children, it is no longer about your life. It is all about the children...and you chose to have them. Do the right thing DAMMMIT! |
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*UPDATE*
her father finally returned my phone call, i told him i wanted to talk to her before she went to bed, however, i was too late, she was already sleeping i asked him if i could pick her up tomorrow after school, he said yes, that he'd bring her into school, and i could pick her up, he'd pick her up later that evening, just like normal. he told me not to question her, he said that she's already spent most of the morning in the hospital getting checked out medically (when i saw her this afternoon, she handed me the wrist braclet so i have that) he told me that she had to talk with SRS herself, and then he did. his story, is that he got in from the field last night (he's a farmer), told her it was shower time, and then bedtime, while she was in the shower (he holds the shower head so the water doesn't get in her eyes) he noticed the bruises, and got mad. he took her to the police station once she got her jammies on. he claims, that 'the situation' is taken care of, his wife's daughter (the one with the baby) claims that our daughter fell, however, she's moving out of the house this weekend. i asked him if she's the one that did it, he says he's not certain, cuz he wasn't there, but he has a strong feeling it was her, not his wife, or her son. i told him, i don't keep things from him that pertain to our daughter, it's not fair he does it to me, and that it should stop. he said he was furious last night, and not sure how to respond to my asking if our daughter was ok, that he handled it badly, and he appologized for it. i told him not to let it happen again, cuz above everything, i love my daughter, and want what's best for her, and he knows that, he agreed and said he did too. now, in NO way, shape, or form is this settling well with me. im still going to talk with the lawyer in the morning, and hopefully get something started in a positive direction for my daughter, even if it's only a temp custody order i've got to get her out of that house, and away from any danger she's in right now, the sooner the better keep prayers comin please |
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Edited by
ellgee1976
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Wed 04/16/08 07:25 PM
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If you are the least bit concerned about your child's welfare...immediately get protective services involved and stay the hell out of the bars yourself!!! I am sorry if I am sounding a bit self-righteous here, but when you have children, it is no longer about your life. It is all about the children...and you chose to have them. Do the right thing DAMMMIT! have you read this entire post? i realize it's lengthy, however, read it, and safe yourself from looking like an a$$ first off, do NOT presume you know how much i care about my children, or how concerned about her welfare i am, obviously you didn't read this, or you would understand more, and spew sh*t less 2nd - SRS = CHILD PROTECTION SERVICES 3rd, im 31 yrs old, if i chose to go to a bar and have a drink with a friend, there's nothing wrong with that, and considering i had 1/2 that drink down when the officer returned my phone call, considering the officer knew i was at the bar, and the officer knew i was sober enough to talk to him sensably, i seriously don't think i was doing anything wrong. 4th - you are PREACHIN to the choir when you tell ME that it's no longer about me, but about the children. had you read this whole thread, you would have concluded that i DO care about my children, and you wouldn't have just attacked me for tryin to do what's best for my daughter, and my older 2 children thanks for your 'concern' |
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More prayers for you and your baby girl! I ahve read all of this and you are doing what is right for you and her so keep going!
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More prayers for you and your baby girl! I ahve read all of this and you are doing what is right for you and her so keep going! thank you, i apreciate it |
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thanx D |
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Edited by
ellgee1976
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Thu 04/17/08 12:36 PM
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i talked with the school today, her teachers were happy to see her, and have documented everything, and in detail.
i talked with the teacher and asked her to make certain that the school psycologist talks with her often. i took her to my friend's house, where im house sitting, and she needed to use the bathroom, so i got her a new roll of TP, and left her there to do her thing. when she got done, she hollared for me, cuz she's not good at 'clean up' i go into the bathroom, and she has bruises ALL over hre bottom! i asked her who did that to her bottom, she said who it was, (the X hub's wife's dauther, the one with the baby herself) i asked her what other owies she had, and she said none, i asked her what the girl did that to her bottom with, and she told me a BELT! she almost cried, i helped her put her pants back up, and hugged her, told her it wasn't her fault, that she's good, and beautiful, and i love her. then she told me the whole story then, she told me that this girl was watchin her, and my daughter had done something wrong, was told to go to her room, this girl took her stack of movies, and THEW them at her, then took her computer (one of those toy pc's for kids) and removed it from her room, told her she was bad, and that she can't have her things anymore. that's when she took the belt after her bottom. after everything was said and done, her father (the X hubs) walked in, and this girl shoved my daughter into her room again, cuz she was running out to him. my daughter fell against her bed post on her back, and then the X hubs told her not to touch her anymore. he got our daughter ready for a shower, and noticed the bruises then. now, he's told me, that this girl is moving out this weekend, my daughter has told me that this girl already moved out either way, she lives or is gonna live in Salina, and he's called and told me he's taking our daughter to Salina tonight, she won't be in school again tomorrow, and shouldn't be back til Sunday. i told him i don't really have a choice in the matter, but if he puts her in danger again, im gonna be pissed..he said he understood, they're only going to 'get away' this is me...being NOT happy |
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(((((((LG))))))))))
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I don't know what else to say that hasn't been said.. *hugs* I'm soo gah! people piss me off!! If I had my way about it.. I'd be set up down the road with a sniper.. GAH!!!!!! Hope things get better keep us posted
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