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I just love how the Liberals cry about Fox news. How big are your freaking b*lls. Even though polls have been taken that show you libs control ABC,CBS,NBC, The New York Times and most of Hollyweird. The moment that one show airs something unbiased you scream right wing conspiracy. You know it and I know it but you will respond with something witty about Fox instead of telling the truth about the liberal news media.
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our nation is crap and retarded right now and we need help and we don't know whats going on or who to vote for and whos lying....there I think It's all very serious though. Ok yeah right now this country is completely off it's track but freedom of speech or not you sir are an idiot I doesn't matter what is going on now or what will happen I am and I will always be proud to say that I am an American |
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Seem to have a couple of viewpoints in this thread.
The defeatist viewpoint that suggest that this country and the principles that it was founded upon are somehow wrong. That the principles need to be changed to adapt to modern times. The other viewpoint is that this country is the greatest in history because of the principles it was founded upon. The further we get away from the constructor's ideals the worse things get. |
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I'm missing something -----America does not want this war!!!!! So McCain is out. If he wins the election then America must be a lie!!!!!!!
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The further we get away from the constructor's ideals the worse things get. not watered down, no B.S., just truth! |
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I don't WANT this war but understand if we leave now we end up back there again..only lots more people will have been killed by terrorist. The radical Islams want to kill us, you, me, every Jew, Christian, agnostic, atheist everyone who does not agree with their brand of radical views.
How can you want more terrorist attacks around the world and here? |
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Terrorism is a minor threat to life, you have a better chance of getting mauled to death by a stray dog, drowning, getting hit by a car or getting hit by lightning than you do when it comes to getting killed by terrorism.
If terrorism is such a threat, why are our borders wide open? If you're not even going to adequately protect the entrance to your Nation, then doesn't that make the entire "war on terror" a big fat joke or maybe its not a war on terror, but a war to create fear as a pretext to steal away our rights? The Radical muslims, they like having our men and women over there, because it makes them so much easier to harm them. Why can't we just leave? Isn't it true that our own ally broke the truce with Sadr in the first place? SO the puppet thats in charge, that's supposed to be our ally, put our troops at more of a risk and for what? Nevermind it made our Government look like a$$hats, when Iran stepped in and brokered a ceasefire. If we were taking care of our own house, keeping our borders and ports secure and we're protecting with our life blood: the civil liberties that made this county great once, plus we demand adherence to the Constitution from our elected and appointed officials. I honestly don't think terrorism would be a threat inthe most minor sense of the word. Just by occupying Iraq, we have given those scary boogeymen terrorists the best recruiting tool they've had since we had that base on Saudi soil. Besides, all our men and women are doing over there now is standing in the middle of what is destined to become an all out civil war, in my estimation. "The further we get away from the constructor's ideals the worse things get." This line has so much truth, Our founders were protravel, protrade, but anti-entangling alliances. Our founders warned against them and spoke highly of a Noninterventionist foriegn policy. Besides that, why all the ninnying about Iraq and Iran, when Bin Laden, if he is even still alive, is most probably in Pakistan? Doesn't Pakistan already have a nuke? Doesn't that make them by far more of a risk than the Nation that has no weapons of mass destruction or the one that isn't even near capable of building one? That is, of course, if you even believe the B.S. line about this being about terrorism, when it's clearly,in my view, about Global dominance over the regions oil. |
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Terrorism is a minor threat to life, you have a better chance of getting mauled to death by a stray dog, drowning, getting hit by a car or getting hit by lightning than you do when it comes to getting killed by terrorism. If terrorism is such a threat, why are our borders wide open? If you're not even going to adequately protect the entrance to your Nation, then doesn't that make the entire "war on terror" a big fat joke or maybe its not a war on terror, but a war to create fear as a pretext to steal away our rights? The Radical muslims, they like having our men and women over there, because it makes them so much easier to harm them. Why can't we just leave? Isn't it true that our own ally broke the truce with Sadr in the first place? SO the puppet thats in charge, that's supposed to be our ally, put our troops at more of a risk and for what? Nevermind it made our Government look like a$$hats, when Iran stepped in and brokered a ceasefire. If we were taking care of our own house, keeping our borders and ports secure and we're protecting with our life blood: the civil liberties that made this county great once, plus we demand adherence to the Constitution from our elected and appointed officials. I honestly don't think terrorism would be a threat inthe most minor sense of the word. Just by occupying Iraq, we have given those scary boogeymen terrorists the best recruiting tool they've had since we had that base on Saudi soil. Besides, all our men and women are doing over there now is standing in the middle of what is destined to become an all out civil war, in my estimation. "The further we get away from the constructor's ideals the worse things get." This line has so much truth, Our founders were protravel, protrade, but anti-entangling alliances. Our founders warned against them and spoke highly of a Noninterventionist foriegn policy. Besides that, why all the ninnying about Iraq and Iran, when Bin Laden, if he is even still alive, is most probably in Pakistan? Doesn't Pakistan already have a nuke? Doesn't that make them by far more of a risk than the Nation that has no weapons of mass destruction or the one that isn't even near capable of building one? That is, of course, if you even believe the B.S. line about this being about terrorism, when it's clearly,in my view, about Global dominance over the regions oil. 
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Edited by
Kevrides
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Wed 04/16/08 06:18 PM
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do you really think that if we pulled out of the middle east tomorrow that it wouldn't just be a matter of time until we had more attacks on our home soil?
I'm all for fortifying our borders. You won't meet a more staunch supporter of border enforcement than me. It won't stop airplanes or embedded cells from using money sent from the theocracy that used to be Iraq to kill more American civilians. |
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Edited by
mnhiker
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Wed 04/16/08 06:31 PM
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do you really think that if we pulled out of the middle east tomorrow that it wouldn't just be a matter of time until we had more attacks on our home soil? I'm all for fortifying our borders. You won't meet a more staunch supporter of border enforcement than me. It won't stop airplanes or embedded cells from using money sent from the theocracy that used to be Iraq to kill more American civilians. Guess what? Not all of the embedded cells are in Iraq. They may already be here. I don't buy that BS where 'if we keep the terrorists in Iraq they won't come over here'. Not all the terrorists are in Iraq, therefore it's a ridiculous lie. |
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do you really think that if we pulled out of the middle east tomorrow that it wouldn't just be a matter of time until we had more attacks on our home soil? I'm all for fortifying our borders. You won't meet a more staunch supporter of border enforcement than me. It won't stop airplanes or embedded cells from using money sent from the theocracy that used to be Iraq to kill more American civilians? Just because a part of the body is broken, doesn't mean you should kill the patient. We have tons of gang problems in this country, I'm sure that they've attacked a few tourists, maybe some chinese family touring Hollywood and went a little to far off the beaten path. Does that mean that we need to be accepting of Chinese occupation? How about the Billions that we've borrowed from them to sustain what Bush was fiscally irresponsible for ordering. Wouldn't it be in their "national security" interests to put a base here to protect their "interests" in the region? If we pulled all of our soldiers from all the overseas bases, I think we'd be better off in the area of security and far far better off in the area of Fiscal responsibility. I mean, do we really still need a base in Japan,Korea,Germany or anywhere else but on our soil? Border enforcement doesn't stop jets, but pilots armed with 45's do. Border enforcement doesn't stop airplanes, but fighter pilots can, where were they when they were needed most? Embedded cells. Well, guess what, thats a small group of people. If they suddenly find themselves surrounded by all these military people, with our borders proficiently guarded, you really think they'll move? Better than that, if a overseas government is a known supporter of a "terrorist" organization then you don't allow their citizens into the country. We have a right to deny entrance into the nation, why not use it proactively. Instead of this bogus no fly list, why not try actually putting the right names on it, instead of Ted Kennedy's. |
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well, looks like Iammewhoru....hit the national stage tonight....I'm glad to see ALOT of my post finally got answered....at least.....somewhat.
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is it just me though or is the questions pretty much still unanswered?
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I answered all of your questions in my first response.
The embedded cells I speak of are already here. Think if the Radical Muslim theocracy that will take over Iraq wont find some money to send to them along with directions to kill as many infidels as they possibly can? I respect your opinion but disagree. I guess on that front I'm calling it a day. Mark my words though, if we pull our troops out prematurely we will end up back there and likely cleaning up more here. |
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as far as withdrawing early.....I agree. I hap hazard attempt at this would only lead to more problems. As we withdraw troops other NATO countries should have to fill the void....we should not be cleaning this up all on our own and we are
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Edited by
IamMewhoRU
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Thu 04/17/08 08:27 AM
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I'm missing something -----America does not want this war!!!!! So McCain is out. If he wins the election then America must be a lie!!!!!!! I side with this guy on his view of that honestly. we need to pull them out but slowly and carefully.and if McCain gets in its more of the same as usual...both here and foreign speaking.....meaning more wars for us to support with the no more troops to send we have. |
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Edited by
Dragoness
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Sat 04/19/08 07:49 AM
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Bush fearmongered most of America into believing that the homeland of terrorism is in Iraq and Afganistan, this was bull and still is. There are a few here who were knowledgable enough to see through the hype and spin in the beginning before the war but not enough to stop them from doing what they wanted. The only reason we have not had another attack here on our soil to this day is not the war in Iraq, it is because of the increase in homeland security here at home.
Saddam had the capability to do what was done on 9/11 for the whole time he was in power, why didn't he if he was such a threat? Noone bothers to address that issue. Also bin laden has not been a target since he did 9/11, why is that issue not addressed. People here in this country are too easily lead astray by their government. Being a patriotic American does not mean you stick your head up the butt of the president and love the hell your in. Being a patriotic American means that you question that which is questionable. This war was bogus from get. Bush has had a personal agenda and he used our military to carry it out, and the grief of the people from 9/11 to further his personal agenda. The complacency in this country is sickening. We just sit here. This country was not built on what we have now in this country, it was built from those who fight the tyranny we have allowed here in this country these last 8 years. Bush followers are the most mislead of them all. They have decided that his tyranny show "strength" that his defiance of the constitution shows "valor". Wrong and wrong, he has played the American people like a fiddle and some continue to enjoy the pied pipers music as he leads us all down the toilet.  McCain will inherit this evil music and carry on with the merry path to destruction
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