Topic: Should he be allowed to see the baby unsupervised?
Desertfox1962's photo
Mon 04/14/08 01:37 PM


Ok, this is a little long. I will try my best not to drift either.

I am recently out of a very short term relationship with a friend of the family. We dated for three months. Well, I was stupid and trusted something he said, now I am pregnant. I already have a six year old (by another man). We split up and things were amicable enough until..... he asked me if I was going to give the baby his last name. Big fat NO!! I was of course much nicer about it to him. I explained to him that we are not married and not even dating. I am the one who will have to get up every night with the baby, miss work if he is sick, explain to him why dad is not there, etc etc.

Another issue I have is that if he is to see the baby I feel it must be supervised or at my home with me present. Here are my reasons..... He is a convicted felon, has a drinking problem, has a sexual problem (and I mean that he needs to have counseling), cannot handle a six year old without drinking, thinks it is ok to leave a child unattended for 2 hours alone in the house, has depression issues, and has never had any children of his own. I honestly fear for the baby's life if he gets him alone. He could get totally stressed and shake the baby and kill him!! He knows NOTHING about children.

It may seem I am stretching the truth or that I am crazy for even dating him. I probably am. I had no idea of any of these issues until recently. I broke it off immediately.

What should I do? I am thinking get an attorney. I don't want to deny him seeing his child, I just think it should be strictly monitored.
And you had sex with him...why? lol, A guy like this can get laid, but a good wage earning, cop in training nice guy like me cant even get people to respond to my emails. lols



I agree and the nice guys always finish last. Seek and retain an attorney! You have the health of you and your children to think about.

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Mon 04/14/08 01:38 PM


Well in the first place unless he goes to court he has no rights what so ever. You can put on the birth cert. father unknown not much he can do about it unless he gets an attorney and goes to court for a DNA test.

Well I would ask what you were doing with such a man but looks like you will live with that the rest of your life.

But now if you want to put him down as the father ect. it still has to go to court before he actually has visitation rights then along will go child support. If and when that happens all you have to do is request that his visits are supervised the courts will set it up. My sisters ex had to go to a place that was set up were he could see his son with others around it was a place the courts set up where others are around to watch them and to step in if needed.


In my state, if the father is not there at the time of birth, they will not put him on the birth certificate. Otherwise, you could put anybody's name on the certificate.


It is the same here. Unless he is there at the birth and agrees he is the father, they put unknown. This is also a very mother oriented state. Fathers have no chance unless the mother is a crack whore. Which I am def not! I don't even smoke cig and rarly drink.

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Mon 04/14/08 01:39 PM
a couple times a month ..???? like the first child.????

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Denying a child its father ..... a good choice ????noway noway noway noway noway noway noway noway

This may be the impetus for the father to become a man...


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We're talking about supervised visitation.

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Mon 04/14/08 01:41 PM
If I was you, I wouldn't list his name as the father on the birth certificate. Maybe you will get lucky and he won't even try to see the child? Even though you do know who the father is, I wouldn't list him...yep you are not being honest but do you really want his name on there? Maybe he won't have the money to fight you to put it on there.
As long as you are working and you have insurance it won't be a big deal. BUT if you try to go through the state and get medicaid, they will make you list the father. My friend went through this...she didn't want the father listed on the birth certificate because he was a loser. She just told them that she slept around and had no clue who the father was. Sure it made her look bad, but it kept him away from the baby.

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Mon 04/14/08 01:42 PM

a couple times a month ..???? like the first child.????

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I know that is not much. I don't deny her father the right to see her whenever he wants. The amount of time is his choice.

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Mon 04/14/08 01:43 PM
cover up a bad decision with lies.... nice!



If I was you, I wouldn't list his name as the father on the birth certificate. Maybe you will get lucky and he won't even try to see the child? Even though you do know who the father is, I wouldn't list him...yep you are not being honest but do you really want his name on there? Maybe he won't have the money to fight you to put it on there.
As long as you are working and you have insurance it won't be a big deal. BUT if you try to go through the state and get medicaid, they will make you list the father. My friend went through this...she didn't want the father listed on the birth certificate because he was a loser. She just told them that she slept around and had no clue who the father was. Sure it made her look bad, but it kept him away from the baby.

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Mon 04/14/08 01:44 PM
Edited by ddn122 on Mon 04/14/08 01:44 PM
so.....if he chose 24/7 you would not deny him????




a couple times a month ..???? like the first child.????

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I know that is not much. I don't deny her father the right to see her whenever he wants. The amount of time is his choice.

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Mon 04/14/08 01:45 PM
I don't want to deny a father the right to se his child, I just feel he has too many problems to be allowed to keep a child alone. This is the same man who thought it was ok to leave my sleeping six year old alone in the house for TWO hours. FYI, I kicked him out the same day he said that. Told him it was over.

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Mon 04/14/08 01:46 PM
Sometimes you have to do whatever to protect your children!! She made a bad decision and he is not going to be around her when the child is born, she doesn't think he will be a good parent. Would you want your child around someone like that?

All I can say is that I am lucky to have a great ex that is a great parent!!

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Mon 04/14/08 01:47 PM
kicked him out?????? he lived with you and your other child???

noway noway noway noway



I don't want to deny a father the right to se his child, I just feel he has too many problems to be allowed to keep a child alone. This is the same man who thought it was ok to leave my sleeping six year old alone in the house for TWO hours. FYI, I kicked him out the same day he said that. Told him it was over.

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Mon 04/14/08 01:48 PM
trust me darling do not put his name anywhere on the certificate do not even bring this up to him.he will then have to prove paturnity if he bothers to

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Mon 04/14/08 01:48 PM
The father of my daughter? Yes, he has proven that he is a good person. He loves his daughter and has only her best interest in mind. He pays for her schooling so she doesn't attend a public school here. SC is 50th state for public education. Her father has maintained contact with her when he couldn't see her via phone calls. He was around for the first three years all the time cause we were still together. I have no doubt she would be taken care but he feels it is best for her to live with me. I am still more stable and able to spend the time that is required with her.

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Mon 04/14/08 01:48 PM
see my original post.....doesn't "seem" like she has anyones interest in mind...except possibly her ownindifferent




possibly, you should be "strictly monitored"

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Mon 04/14/08 01:55 PM
I think nobody is bothering to respond to that because it is obvious you just think I am some loser who doesn't care about my kids. I don't have to prove anything. I am simply asking others if I should seek legal advise or try some new approach.

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Mon 04/14/08 01:57 PM
I think that you know the answer already!

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Mon 04/14/08 01:58 PM
why cant everyone stick to the OP's question.

to the OP in reply to your question, my answer would be NO, dont leave him unattended with the baby, well thats what i would do anyway. goodluck with the pregnancy, and takecare. flowerforyou flowerforyou flowerforyou

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Mon 04/14/08 02:00 PM
Thank you everyone who replied. I pretty much figured I would need to get a lawyer. I hate to drag it through the courts, but if I don't and something happened to the baby in his care....

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Mon 04/14/08 02:05 PM
Yes you should get a lawyer, goodluck with that. flowerforyou flowerforyou

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Mon 04/14/08 02:41 PM
Here Dragon, flowerforyou flowerforyou flowerforyou

First,
CONGRATULATIONS on your Pregnancy!drinker

2nd
i don't think that.

I do, however, "like" to play devil's advocate...i think it aids
a discussion......it allows all parties to Examine alternative viewpoints.....(if they so choose)...

I apologize, if i sounded "harsh"....I am passionate about ,all, children....I firmly believe that Children benefit, greatly, from having the Yin(mom) AND the Yang(dad) in their lives.....Furthermore, I believe there is a great benefit to the "involved" parents .....these benefits may not be obvious, or even plausible, at times.

Possibly, This miracle of life can be the "spark" to enlighten all involved parties...Friends, Family, Parents



flowerforyou
I am certain that you will be and are a Great Mother! flowerforyou



Peace




I think nobody is bothering to respond to that because it is obvious you just think I am some loser who doesn't care about my kids. I don't have to prove anything. I am simply asking others if I should seek legal advise or try some new approach.

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Mon 04/14/08 02:43 PM
Possibly, This miracle of life can be the "spark" to enlighten all involved parties...Friends, Family, Parents




thats a lovely thing to say to the op. flowerforyou flowerforyou flowerforyou flowerforyou