Kevin Smith

what?

no they are not all the same.

Jainism is an ancient atheistic religion. Whattya think of that?

I think you are wrong, but it depends on what you define as God.

If God is the being (or beings) that created this earth and designed the human form, then I think there are many "creator gods." After all there is the verse that says: "Let us create man in our image." That implies "us" is more than one. mmmmm...

that "us" would be the Father, Son and Holy Spirit...the trinity.

...and you never answered me...whats up with "Kevin Smith" I'm pretty sure you weren't introducing yourself.

I don't know if you can have it both ways. You are saying that you believe that there is only one god but that that god is three entities.

If you consider the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit to be one being then it can't be referred to as an us, but if you say that you believe the father, son, and holy spirit are three seperate but equal entities then that is considering the possibility there is not just one god. I think I am confused by what you are trying to argue again.

I don't think so, because the spirit is not in the form of man. Neither is the father. Only the son took the form of a man.

JB

LittleBird, Your definition of atheism was way off base

ok...well, dip me in ignorance and throw me to the christians.

Christians = exhibiting a spirit proper to a follower of Jesus Christ; one who beieves in the existence of God. Believers

Athiests = One who disbelieves or denies the existence of God or gods. Non-Believers

Atheists are not non-believers. They believe there is no God. They could be wrong, but that is what they believe. So they are not non-believers.

This definition could apply to a lot of people who don't even believe in the bible overall. There’s really no reason to believe in the Old Testament to be a follower of Jesus. To the contrary, Jesus was pretty much opposed to much of what the Old Testament had to say anyway.

A lot of atheists as well as pantheists exhibit a spirit 'proper' to be a follower of teachings of Jesus Christ. And many people who call themselves Christians do not. So this is a really vague definition.

Mahatma Gandhi once said “I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ. The materialism of affluent Christian countries appears to contradict the claims of Jesus Christ that says it's not possible to worship both Mammon and God at the same time.”

Most people in today’s societies are stuck in the rat trap of worshiping Mammon whether they like it or not. They pretend to worship Jesus, but only as an aside.

an atheist can be described as someone that haven't brought into the fantasy of an imaginary God staking them .....

what do you call those that don't believe in the jackalope or Bigfoot? or ufo's....you call them skeptics ...so why does skeptic change to non-believer when it comes to religion..the term "non-believer" is a label that believers use to make their belief seem more real to theirselves and to the skeptic

Funches..whe you lay your head down tonight...and go to sleep....

who keeps your heart beating?
And your lungs breathing?

So you can awaken tomorrow
to another day ?

A few million years of evolutionary development does that.

couldn't one ask God those same question

hey God...er..who keeps your heart beating?...would God response be that he has no heart?....hummmmm God has no heart? ..well that explains a lot

Well then that would make then non believers to believers right?

Well I would say yes and no to this abra.....If you believe that Jesus' Father was in your reality a woman.....that is not a follower of Jesus.

And Jesus was not against the the old testament and it's ways......What he was against was the ritualistic entitlement that they felt they deserved and not giving all the glory to Jesus' father but in a sense to themselves that Jesus was againist. So please understand that there is a difference between Jesus being opposed to the old testament which he was not....and Jesus knowing that because of His Being that the laws of the old testament no longer applied.

And imo you can not believe in the Father God and be a follower of Jesus....just doesn't work. Also saying that you are God, the flowers are God, the earth is God......also shames I hate to say God and His beloved son.....

And yes I totally agree that there are many people calling themselves Christians who do not walk that path....Talking the talk and walking the walk are two different things.

I put God and Christ first in all that I do....and therefore I am a Christian. And to assume that all Christians are materialistic is not fair at all. Most of my Christian friends give most of what they have away to others in need....

And I don't have a clue what mammon is and I sure as heck don't worship anyone other then my Lord and Savior.