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Edited by
Rapunzel
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Mon 03/31/08 07:13 PM
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Think carefully about What you will be reading. Mary Had a little Lamb, His fleece was white as snow. And everywhere that Mary went, The Lamb was sure to go. He followed her to school each day, which was within the rule. It made the children laugh and play, To have a Lamb at school. And then the rules all changed one day, Illegal it became; To bring the Lamb of God to school, Or even speak His Name! Every day got worse and worse, And days turned into years. Instead of hearing children laugh, We heard gun shots and tears. What must we do to stop the crime, That's in our schools today? Let's let the Lamb come back to school, And teach our kids to pray! |
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Amen, kiddo. I'm all for it. You can take him whether it's allowed or not. When I kept getting expelled from home school, I had to go to public school and I found out.
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Think carefully about What you will be reading. Mary Had a little Lamb, His fleece was white as snow. And everywhere that Mary went, The Lamb was sure to go. He followed her to school each day, which was within the rule. It made the children laugh and play, To have a Lamb at school. And then the rules all changed one day, Illegal it became; To bring the Lamb of God to school, Or even speak His Name! Every day got worse and worse, And days turned into years. Instead of hearing children laugh, We heard gun shots and tears. What must we do to stop the crime, That's in our schools today? Let's let the Lamb come back to school, And teach our kids to pray! |
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Very good Rapunzel !
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Edited by
Rapunzel
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Mon 03/31/08 07:32 PM
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Amen, kiddo. I'm all for it. You can take him whether it's allowed or not. When I kept getting expelled from home school, I had to go to public school and I found out. Amen...Honey....Yes , we can.... It's just so sad that this country was founded by people who believe in Christ and who lived & died by His teachings... many Soldiers still believe in Christ & fight to preserve the freedoms we hold dear... many lost their lives protecting our beliefs they would be sickened to see how things are now ... many Veterans have fought the good fight and can't believe the blatant disregard... now there are tsunami waves of rebels who want to change everything to suit themselves however they don't have the intestinal fortitude to start their own atheistic country but would rather try to take away our rights... |
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That's all fine and good if you want to raise your children that way but I stand by my assertation that anyone who FORCES someone else to pray should by strung up by their toes and flogged. If my kids end up going to public schools where they force religion on them I will not hesitate to pull them out immediately and home-school them myself.
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Think carefully about What you will be reading. Mary Had a little Lamb, His fleece was white as snow. And everywhere that Mary went, The Lamb was sure to go. He followed her to school each day, which was within the rule. It made the children laugh and play, To have a Lamb at school. And then the rules all changed one day, Illegal it became; To bring the Lamb of God to school, Or even speak His Name! Every day got worse and worse, And days turned into years. Instead of hearing children laugh, We heard gun shots and tears. What must we do to stop the crime, That's in our schools today? Let's let the Lamb come back to school, And teach our kids to pray! sounds good to me.. .. thank you |
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Very good Rapunzel ! thank you Dear |
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Freedom of religion, albeit probably not the most thought out freedom. I don't mind when someone wants to pray, I do mind when that someone decides one day I should pray also, this is where I draw the line. According to your poem violence comes out of not praying, however violence comes from a multitude of directions and very few have to do with God or The Bible. It's kind of a blind teaching if you ask me.
We teach with words not books, we teach with actions not school, we teach the next generation on how to act...so far our teaching is leading them backwards rather than forwards, speak and when you do...speak loudly. |
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That's all fine and good if you want to raise your children that way but I stand by my assertation that anyone who FORCES someone else to pray should by strung up by their toes and flogged. If my kids end up going to public schools where they force religion on them I will not hesitate to pull them out immediately and home-school them myself. please ... i don't see the word " Forces " anywhere in my statements or in anyone else's... and Christ doesn't force Himself on anyone.. He lets us come of our own free will |
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Private funded schools, fine...Public schools, I have a problem with... I was against having my children endoctrinated in any one religion or theology and always encouraged them to think critically and independantly. I'm happy to state that they both turned out quite decently as contributing,law abiding members of society, thank you very much. I oppose any laws that don't keep church and state seperate...
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Freedom of religion, albeit probably not the most thought out freedom. I don't mind when someone wants to pray, I do mind when that someone decides one day I should pray also, this is where I draw the line. According to your poem violence comes out of not praying, however violence comes from a multitude of directions and very few have to do with God or The Bible. It's kind of a blind teaching if you ask me. We teach with words not books, we teach with actions not school, we teach the next generation on how to act...so far our teaching is leading them backwards rather than forwards, speak and when you do...speak loudly. hi there fear and loathing... i don't really see the same thing you do in that poem.. I do feel though, that violence often does come from a lack of connection with our Heavenly Creator ... I believe that if people don't have a code of decent ethics if they don't stand for something substantial & supernatural far beyond themselves , i believe they will fall for just about anything |
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Edited by
Rapunzel
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Mon 03/31/08 08:17 PM
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Private funded schools, fine...Public schools, I have a problem with... I was against having my children endoctrinated in any one religion or theology and always encouraged them to think critically and independantly. I'm happy to state that they both turned out quite decently as contributing,law abiding members of society, thank you very much. I oppose any laws that don't keep church and state seperate... basically to me it comes down to the same thing... this country was founded by people who believe in the Lord Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior.... If people want to oppose that , there is always somewhere else to go... a simple example would be ... if you don't like the food they serve in one restaurant , no one is forcing you to keep going back there ... My three children are very awesome young adults with good careers & families & good moral lives... i agree that we should do things of our own free will... i don't like anyone forcing anything on me either... we still have the right to think and feel as we wish... I regard my freedoms highly & even when very young i did not agree with the poor choice of role models or everything i was taught in Catholic school... i am not a Catholic now... I basically am non-denominational... If other religions are to be acknowledged & allowed to perform their religious practices... then i think that Christians should not be silenced ... and i don't agree with taking "under God" out of the pledge of allegiance... i do feel that when people believe in God, that it is a big part of them & they take their faith & beliefs with them everywhere they go... they should not be prevented from praying in public... |
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I bless and respect anyone's right to pray to whatever God and to practice any decent religion, just please don't use my tax dollar for it and don't subject my grand children to it, as I considerate it(along with our founding fathers) do be a private matter and not a State responsibility...
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Edited by
Rapunzel
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Tue 04/01/08 09:16 AM
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I bless and respect anyone's right to pray to whatever God and to practice any decent religion, just please don't use my tax dollar for it and don't subject my grand children to it, as I considerate it(along with our founding fathers) do be a private matter and not a State responsibility... i don't know where you are getting all this from a very innocent poem and from the messages here ..Allen... I never mentioned money or taxes, or the state forcing anything on anyone... I am not political at all... and against being forced to do anything against my will.... take care and i hope you have good day... |
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I don't mean to seem obstinent, or argumentative, I just thought that the gist of what you're saying is that crime and depravity are the result of seperating church frome state in public schools. If that's not what you mean, I apologise and beg your pardon.
btw, same to you Rapunzel, I wish you a very nice day. |
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That's all fine and good if you want to raise your children that way but I stand by my assertation that anyone who FORCES someone else to pray should by strung up by their toes and flogged. If my kids end up going to public schools where they force religion on them I will not hesitate to pull them out immediately and home-school them myself. I agree... religion is touchy. In the old days kids were made to learn their prayers, but now they learn them wherever they go to church, or they learn other philosophical teachings based on their parents wishes. It is not said that children are Forbidden to pray at schools, just that they should not be made to say prayers. I will say, that it would be nice to have an optional religion class, that would teach what each religion is about, not just Christianity, but Judaism, Islam, Wicca, Buddhism, and everything else, so then kids can choose based on what most closely matches their personal beliefs. They would not be taught prayers persay, but the basic fundimental beliefs. |
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Edited by
Rapunzel
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Tue 04/01/08 10:02 AM
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I don't mean to seem obstinent, or argumentative, I just thought that the gist of what you're saying is that crime and depravity are the result of seperating church frome state in public schools. If that's not what you mean, I apologise and beg your pardon. btw, same to you Rapunzel, I wish you a very nice day. oh thank you so much .... it wasn't that at all... i am sorry you extracted all of that from the poem i received in a forwarded email... i know that there is a lot of stuff i don't agree with too, with the world and the way it is being run... and i bet if we actually sat down and talked , we would have more in common than what appears on the surface... i think there is enough to divide people, and i certainly don't want to focus on that, but rather to bring out the things that unite us hugs and love to you Lady Nessa and a broken arrow.... an American Indian Offering of peace |
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very good
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That's all fine and good if you want to raise your children that way but I stand by my assertation that anyone who FORCES someone else to pray should by strung up by their toes and flogged. If my kids end up going to public schools where they force religion on them I will not hesitate to pull them out immediately and home-school them myself. I agree... religion is touchy. In the old days kids were made to learn their prayers, but now they learn them wherever they go to church, or they learn other philosophical teachings based on their parents wishes. It is not said that children are Forbidden to pray at schools, just that they should not be made to say prayers. I will say, that it would be nice to have an optional religion class, that would teach what each religion is about, not just Christianity, but Judaism, Islam, Wicca, Buddhism, and everything else, so then kids can choose based on what most closely matches their personal beliefs. They would not be taught prayers persay, but the basic fundimental beliefs. i think that is a good idea.. ..thank you |
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