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Norm Stamper on Marijuana
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Great views!! Not sure I agree but food for thought.
Again, please anyone.... "I challenge anyone to go look for statistics regarding Criminal Activities commited under the influence of Marijuana. Not including activities being charged with possesion, smoking, growing, or dealing.... (If marijuana were legal would not be issue) I would really like to see this. I looked and had a difficult time finding anything. " |
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Norm Stamper on Marijuana
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I have to disagree on this. Please keep in mind they do have synthetic pot sold in a pill already out there. Not even close to the same thing. The synthetic is man-made under man-made controls. The natural stuff (that there is talk of legalizing) is no such beast. My point is legalizing it and going under FDA scrutiny. They will to have testing of it all that is LEGAL. Yes, synthetic is man-made with man-made controls but they did testing to get it to strength. Just like they would if it were legal. ****WINX**** Not really time released. Basically like any drug depends on what is in your stomach...etc. But with that being said smoking it allows better control. And then what? Keep every possible strain they haven't tested illegal until they do? How on Earth are they going to enforce that? Probably the same way we approached the legalization of alcohol when prohibation existed. Which btw how many stileries do you see around....Seriously? |
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Of course we could just turn Africa into a parking lot instead. That'd be the humanitarian thing to do. End all that suffering. Thats not nice... |
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but just like in america...you can talk until you are blue in the face and it doesn't matter. without a cure...it's an uphill battle An uphill battle is still worth fighting if the lives and suffering of hundreds of millions are at stake. So instead of dumping time and money into Africa, shouldn't we be working on a cure instead? Just a thought. EXACTLY that is the best way to help them...and in my eyes cheaper in the long run to our economy! |
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Norm Stamper on Marijuana
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I have to disagree on this. Please keep in mind they do have synthetic pot sold in a pill already out there. Not even close to the same thing. The synthetic is man-made under man-made controls. The natural stuff (that there is talk of legalizing) is no such beast. My point is legalizing it and going under FDA scrutiny. They will to have testing of it all that is LEGAL. Yes, synthetic is man-made with man-made controls but they did testing to get it to strength. Just like they would if it were legal. ****WINX**** Not really time released. Basically like any drug depends on what is in your stomach...etc. But with that being said smoking it allows better control. |
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AIDS in Africa is on a scale far greater than here in the U.S. At least in the U.S. we are are educated as to how to avoid it, have access to prevention methods, and access to treatment. Most of africa has none of that. I'm all for focusing at home, but that doesn't mean there aren't great humanitarian efforts that need addressed elsewhere as well. I understand your point. BUT if you are stuggling in your home to make ends meet you and your kids are sick, you would put out a huge amount of money to help others even as you and your family suffer????? Wouldnt you try and help within your home and get things STABLE before you help others? And I too understand your point. But I would hope that I would continue to help those around me even in my worst situation if I had the means to do so. I can usually help myself and many of the people around me at the same time. Granted, if I have nothing to help then there's nothing to help, but I don't expect I'll ever be there. And I certainly don't think our country is at that point. Not at that point? People are losing their jobs all over the US we need to cut some costs BIG TIME. |
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Norm Stamper on Marijuana
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Nope. Never be legal. Too high a potential for law suits. Just look at all the hoops for the legal drugs the manufacturers have to jump through prior to marketing. That's a good point. I never thought about that. There's the FDA to go through. Yes and you're talking about a substance without a measurable dose whose effects vary greatly by strain. Conceivably, there would be absolutely no way to regulate it. At least with alcohol you have blood-alcohol content at a certain percentage. With marijuana it's all or nothing. I have to disagree on this. Please keep in mind they do have synthetic pot sold in a pill already out there. So if legal they could find a way. And btw, I feel the pill is much more dangerous than smoking. The pill, you never know when it will take effect, for how long, and you are on a constant high 24/7 if taken as recommended. Try driving and living that way. Smoking you can control somewhat by timing (medicinally) and usually can bring the effects down by something as simple as eating. |
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AIDS in Africa is on a scale far greater than here in the U.S. At least in the U.S. we are are educated as to how to avoid it, have access to prevention methods, and access to treatment. Most of africa has none of that. I'm all for focusing at home, but that doesn't mean there aren't great humanitarian efforts that need addressed elsewhere as well. I understand your point. BUT if you are stuggling in your home to make ends meet you and your kids are sick, you would put out a huge amount of money to help others even as you and your family suffer????? Wouldnt you try and help within your home and get things STABLE before you help others? |
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Norm Stamper on Marijuana
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I agree! Great information warmachine! hey now...do I look like war to you??? i know I'm sick but I don't look like a man Sorry trying to save space |
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Norm Stamper on Marijuana
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http://www.nida.nih.gov/ResearchReports/Marijuana/Marijuana3.html is another site as well. I believe IF they make it legal...it needs to have the same laws as alcohol I agree! Great information warmachine! |
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How depressing =(
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I built a baby registry on the Walmart website for my new daughter coming in July, and it is so depressing knowing that just about everything I am needing, I had it all 10 years ago when my first daughter was born. But of course I gave it all to my sister when she was pregnant with her daughter, who then gave it all away to her best friend. What's even worse, is everything I am going to buy will be given away again because I won't be having any more children after this. I guess that's just the way it goes sometimes. Try ebay as well. You can get new stuff but at a cheaper price. |
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Norm Stamper on Marijuana
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I just got up....bad flu so I haven't really checked. from what I know of the subject is from my brother in law (self proclaimed pot head) and what I have witnessed in others and myself. I just know (like other drugs) that some can handle pot as a relaxant but not all people can. depending on the body, it can cause things like hallucinations, paranoia, muscle tension etc. Sorry to here that you are sick . Feel better soon. I look forward to hearing anything you can find on statistics for criminal activities committed under the influence of marijuana. |
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Norm Stamper on Marijuana
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hmmmmm i didn't know that either Hey Rose you seem good at research (previous posts in forums)can you find anything on my original question? |
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Norm Stamper on Marijuana
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There's information on here: http://www.nida.nih.gov/Infofacts/marijuana.html Pot does slow a person's reflexes for driving. KayaksJuliet, when I worked at the VA drug rehab, there were a few people in there for pot. Thank you Winx And I found this as well which was helpful for understanding of Thomas3474 reply . The last few sentences was interesting as well. Effects on the Lungs Numerous studies have shown marijuana smoke to contain carcinogens and to be an irritant to the lungs. In fact, marijuana smoke contains 50 to 70 percent more carcinogenic hydrocarbons than tobacco smoke. Marijuana users usually inhale more deeply and hold their breath longer than tobacco smokers do, which further increases the lungs’ exposure to carcinogenic smoke. Marijuana smokers show dysregulated growth of epithelial cells in their lung tissue, which could lead to cancer;8 however, a recent case-controlled study found no positive associations between marijuana use and lung, upper respiratory, or upper digestive tract cancers.9 Thus, the link between marijuana smoking and these cancers remains unsubstantiated at this time. |
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Norm Stamper on Marijuana
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I think it's safe to say pot smoking is just as bad as cigarettes espcially since it is unfiltered. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090330/ap_on_go_ot/tobacco_tax_5 The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention says cigarette smoking results in an estimated 443,000 premature deaths each year, and costs the economy $193 billion in health care expenses and lost time from work. Smoking is a major contributor to heart disease, cancer and lung disease. I might agree on this one BUT comparison isnt feasible without statistical proof. Especially with the amount of focus marijuana has gotten. I know asking for statistics on this and my original question: "statistics regarding Criminal Activities commited under the influence of Marijuana. Not including activities being charged with possesion, smoking, growing, or dealing.... (If marijuana were legal would not be issue) I would really like to see this. I looked and had a difficult time finding anything." ...is frustrating to say the least. But for me it is equally frustrating that I still cannot find any statistics about criminal activities committed just under the influence of marijuana. And that alone makes me go hmmmmmmmmm. I understand their are people we know, whether it be in groups or personal experience that have used and have gotten into car accidents, become gateway users, etc. But what kind of proportion? Where are the statistics? How different is it then alcohol or tobacco for that matter? These people who were in car accidents or other issues, where they not drug and alcohol tested after...at least in some cases??? |
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Norm Stamper on Marijuana
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090330/hl_nm/us_pot_psychosis;_ylt=AkmK20gnVPtotubEb8FO3zXVJRIF NEW YORK (Reuters Health) – Among individuals who appear to be "mentally well," heavy use of marijuana may predispose them to develop schizoprehenia and other "psychoses," new research suggests. Among 92 patients, ages 18 to 65 years, who suffered a first episode of functional psychotic illness, more than half said they smoked marijuana daily or nearly every day and most of these individuals (66 percent) had no pre-existing signs of abnormal neurological development that would put them at risk for psychosis. They had no family history of psychosis; they had been doing well academically; they had a group of friends and as such were not socially isolated; and they had good muscle coordination, Dr. Miguel Ruiz-Veguilla, of the Institute of Neurosciences of the University of Granada, Spain, and co-investigators explain in the latest issue of the journal Schizophrenia Research. The remaining 43 percent of the study subjects with a first psychotic episode did have signs of abnormal neurological development that increased their risk of psychosis, such as a family history of psychosis and trouble in the social and academic worlds. Interesting as well. Here is the last couple of paragraphs of same study... "This study, Veguilla further explained in comments to Reuters Health, suggests that patients with poor social and academic adjustment before the onset of illness "do not need an environmental factor in order to develop psychosis." While people with good social and academic adjustment before the onset of psychosis illness - defined as have more than five friends; good academic function; good motor coordination and sensory integration; and no family history of psychosis -- need a strong environmental factor, such as smoking cannabis every day, to develop psychosis." |
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Norm Stamper on Marijuana
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090326/hl_nm/us_pot_road_1 After alcohol, cannabis is the mind-altering substance most often found in the urine or blood of drivers after a crash, the researchers note in the journal Accident Analysis and Prevention. Studies have shown that people's driving skills are impaired within the first hour after smoking pot, they add. And it's also possible, according to Richer and Bergeron, that people who get behind the wheel after smoking marijuana are also by nature more likely to be dangerous drivers. And the paragraph after... "To investigate, Richer and Bergeron looked at 83 men ranging in age from 17 to 49, of whom 30 admitted to being pot smokers. Among these individuals, 80 percent . Thirty-five percent of all the study participants had been involved in at least one car crash in the past 3 years". Thank you for the information. Quite informative. Yet I do find it intrigueing that they say "said they had driven under the influence of marijuana in the past 12 months" but "involved in at least one car crash in the past 3 years". Makes me wonder about whether their car crash was related to use. |
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KayaksJuliet
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Mon 03/30/09 09:24 PM
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Norm Stamper on Marijuana
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Testicular cancer is at a 70 percent increase among pot smokers? Young men have risen in the ranks of testicular cancer among tokers. My own adopted son just went through this. He is in his twenties. His Dr asked him if he was a pot smoker. He told him it was proving to be a tenant to that kind of cancer. Kat Wow! But what about this.......anyone? "statistics regarding Criminal Activities commited under the influence of Marijuana. Not including activities being charged with possesion, smoking, growing, or dealing.... (If marijuana were legal would not be issue) I would really like to see this. I looked and had a difficult time finding anything." |
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