You don't know when it is time to draw the line, do you?

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If you'd like, I can post my replies in the Czech language, so they'll be easier for you to comprehend.

I never said, "my" attorney. What I did say, was "a divorce attorney".

You're not well traveled, are you?


Again, that's an interesting backspin, you're adding to your story.
Of course, after your initial spinning was pointed out.

The time to do the right thing, starts when you wake up in the morning.
NOT after you've been caught.

Ok, as you are trying to be rational the majority of women pretty much all gave you a similar reply...which apparently is the same as your friends that are highly educated women with scientific education and brilliant minds.

- that it makes sense to walk away
- because in the majority of cases men are still way more involved or all of a sudden their private life takes a new turn
- logically chances are that it is either not serious or troubles ahead in the future (bigamy is also not allowed in Europe...just saying)...so why would anyone be interested in investing energy in that kind of relation ?


However I agree that a paper does not make a difference in trust. People can always chose to not respect a contract or a promise...on paper or not...but the consequences of paper (or electronics) nowadays also in Europe have way more implications.

Your ID is an example, your titles, diplomas, etc...

so a marriage has legal implications....whether we like it or not..

Of course all those responses are not going in your sense so you can obviously not consider them as satisfactory. I mean obviously I don't think anyone expects you or answered for the sake of the offer.
10.000 Euros probably is a way of pretending that the question is important to you....on the other hand you say you are too lazy to pursue your divorce...

So basically, you have to figure what is most important to you.

However...if you were truly honest...you should have a satisfactory answer to your question....cause they are all the same.

(lol...and share among all women that gave you the same explanation cause that's most probably THE REASON..)

Doesn't matter how many ways it's spun, or what it's called within each spinning.

Manure/organic fertilizer.
A bag of horse dung will always be a bag of horse dung.

friend, get the divorce so you can come to the table with clean hands, as they say. Thats what a potential future relationship will want. It will also make it a clean break and you can feel completely free of your past commitment/devotion. Divorce comes with a free grieving process.

worth every crown or euro.

From the excuses the original poster is trying to spin, and the pedestrian level word games...
I'll wager, the wife doesn't yet know they're separated and getting divorced.

I'll wager, he kept the separation and divorce a secret from her.


I'll wager, that I know a great divorce attorney, that I can refer her to, when she finds out.

We will.

We're not the ones suffering from members of the opposite sex running from us *for some unfathomable reason*.

B-bu-but he's NOT married.


His wife is.



*gigglesnort*

I might be less likely to believe them on here ... about separation & getting a divorce ... but if say a meet was to happen and they live in two separate dwellings and either or had a S/O already moved in ... then I would say their telling the truth & waiting on the final papers ... I am not sure if I would ask to see the court papers ... guess I would have to really like someone a lot first

Personally I find most of the institutions and traditions outdated. What does a signature on any paper mean, including a marriage certificate?
Without honest intentions to follow the words by actions that are expected it means nothing. I see signing that certificate just as symbolic formality. One doesn't need bells and whistles to announce the whole world love and commitment.
If you ask me it as a waste of time and money. Just a theater play for the crowd. That's how I see it, but it doesn't mean that I disrespect those who care for the tradition.
It was an honour to get an invitation to my friend's wedding, despite the fact both he and his wife knew how I felt about the ceremony. I accepted it and behaved accordingly, because I wanted to be there if it meant so much to them. That's what friends are for.

On the other hand, however one feels about a marriage or common law relationship it still has legal implications and consequences that should be taken into consideration. Especially when kids are involved.
However, even in relationships without children one should keep in mind some important laws, especially the ones referring to taxes and inheritance that take into account the marital status and any property, asset or source(s) of income acquired while the couple was not separated.
Some people hope they will let those issues resolve themselves by simply claiming it doesn't matter to them since they separated from their partner. Their next married or common law partner might still get a blast from the past type of letter from an ex's lawyer who wants to discuss few issues with both partners since they share some financial concerns as a couple.
So simply walking away from the past doesn't mean anything is over. The past never goes away until it comes back to remind us on our mistakes.
Nothing is over until it's completely over. So, as one friend of mind has put it:" it's better to get over with the past than to forward unresolved problems to the future life and future wife."

You never stop loving anyone. Love doesn't end because you take care of "unfinished legalities". Pay the woman. Get done with it. That love changes and eventually forgiveness happens....someday....stop punishing her.

eta:
I have this notion that people in your country are very stubborn.

Does the ex wife get her youth back once she gets divorced? Women lose more than men in divorce, the least a man can do is wait for the divorce to finalize before they start looking for a new woman. It's like you're trading in an old car for a new one.

My ex wouldn't even pay the fee for divorce papers when his wife didn't want anything at all from him.
Marriage is one thing I can live without. If I ever get married it will be much later in life. You can't trust a man. Look at the way this man views his wife, it's like that in the relationships I've had with men, they don't want long term anything and when they want it to be over you are nothing to them...for this man his wife's existance is not even worth noting and he just can't comprehend why other women don't find that attarctive. What a blank!

Just because my response didn't validate you, doesn't make it "off topic".

In your own words, you admit to being lazy about getting a divorce, and further claim your wife is the one dragging her heels.

Grow a pair, tell your wife what you're up to. I bet she'll stop dragging her heels about that divorce, you've been too lazy to tell her about.

Decision making and consequences belongs together.

When a man is not willing to fully cut off the former marriage, how will he handle the next relationship?

One door has to be fully closed before you open another.

Honor your former wife by giving her 10.000 Euro!

if one ignored it's wife's words as mine, whom you owe 10,000 euro's, than no no wonder one seek out only the flattering opinions flattering of one self...

hah...

cheese doth mold when it but try to pasteurize it self....

cheesy men only get cheesy women.

some men don't even deserve cheesy women.

I get what you're saying.. in your mind, it's over.. so women should trust in your feelings towards them along with your uttered reassurances, and disregard the fact that there's still a piece of paper (your marriage license) that's binding you yet, to another woman...

if I may state the obvious.. women can be as territorial as men in relationships(as well as other areas admittedly).. we like to think we're the ONLY one in our 'mans' life.. and because there are women (and men) who take the sanctity of marriage very seriously.. it's oftentimes hard to overcome the 'feeling' that our MAN can't totally commit to the current relationship, until that paperwork is done!

in other words.. perhaps these women ran because they didn't feel you were 'free' enough to REALLY be with them in a committed relationship, regardless of the affections you showed them AND you saying "trust me"!

some may also perceive that without 'doing the paperwork', you may one day return to your ex (having unfinished business with them perhaps? still hold a torch for perhaps?) and are leaving your options open by NOT finalizing the divorce! that said.. if you have a flippant(or unconcerned) attitude towards the marriage relationship itself.. some may surmise that maybe you're a) not ready to move on, or b) relationships in themselves aren't AS important to you, causing the sense that the current relationship isn't worth fighting for! if you follow...

tell me.. if you were reading a book.. would you start another book beFORE finishing the first? or watch a movie or TV show only 3/4 of the way through then change the channel or switch the DVD? it's similar in principal when you think about it for a moment.. the logic is.. finish what you've started THEN move on with the next project.. be it book.. movie.. or relationship!

but that's just MY opinion