yeah, and that's why artgurl..u would make a lousy lemming..or foot soldier/fodder for Bush/Cheney types.....and I'm proud of ya! and plus....We dont need no stinkin' motherships...we got LAmom!!!!

yeah, and that's why artgurl..u would make a lousy lemming..or foot soldier/fodder for Bush/Cheney types.....and I'm proud of ya!

Well, as the only certified sex therapist on this forum, I was interested in your answers> very clever, and clearly additional evidence about that dumbing down effect in society ie. (excessive hormones and toxic chemicals in the water, too much reality TV, etc.). Some specific responses:Rkisit...forget grad school, try Hamburger U. ; ScotGerman...easily amused,easily distracted,double up the Ritalin; Princessree: your support of James is admirable..but I think u can step off the inversion table now and allow blood to flow to the other body parts; Pat's fan...and I bet u do that at big games too...kinda the foreshortened version of the Tomahawk Chop! Daniel; anybody else notice that abstinent (by choice) men are really nice but cant shut up..it's almost like a side-effect of semen build-up. ; Gypsy..goodpoint..great way to try outa new and more virulent STD or alternately pick up extra community service hours with Boy George for DUI on way home.....; Chevylover...I imagine you keep yours in the back of the truck for those special moments, right next to the tire and rubber cement..just in case. Ghostrider...absolutely brilliant!...monestary..part banking institution, part church! easy tithing! James....come on dude..u know the truth...u get it when u stop trying so hard..and u be tryin' way too hard as evidenced by the cheese smell...also,aside from my momentary sarcasm...u all show unusual support for James..which is kinda cool. katie...i think yours just blew over the top and kept going..ha

If u guys are going to mess with the recommended attire for lunatic space travel, what is next, Hooter's shorts and those nylons?... and for who..not me babe! This is EXACTLY why hippies and anarchists never form huge armies or bureaucracies...they all want to be different!

Ok.....1) I have enough popsicles for everyone until the comet hits...roughly 2024 (give or take a millenium) 2) I'm new here...the jump rope video...a random act of amazing talent for no earthly purpose, or some kind of secret visual code to alert forum members when the "mothership" is arriving, thus it's time for everyone to don new white gym shoes and the bright orange jumpsuits for the long journey back to Grok3?

I believe I have seen exactly that in the mirror, or maybe I just wanted to see that patch of blue and glimmer of ever enlarging hope. I know for a FACT I have seen that in my doggies faces and eyes after they come back inside after a walk and sit patiently by the refrigerator waiting, hoping,salivating...oh wait, that might be me. Anyway, I liked it! Have a warm slice of pie.

Mano..watch out for the talons...they are sharp and pointed at the end....Here, take a popsicle.

Boy, he is a man of few words....as for hidden meaning, believe it or not, I have been enjoying this ditty by Tacitus (and no I dont speak Latin, Spanish is hard enough): Et falsi veraque quam obscuris tegerentur...Between science and art, the truth lies veiled and obscured. Say hi to Waldo, whom I recently noticed catching rays in an M.C. Escher sketch. That little bugger gets around.

THANK YOU. YOU DID CORE IT TOO, RIGHT?
Uh, of course...that's the point of all this, isn't it? and I must say, a magnificent core it is. (Disclaimer: Helps to have one of those coring thingamabobs. My kids eat twice as much fruit just so long as they can use the do-hicky).

You guys can do the woman thing...did somebody mention popsicles? Cherry please! I think I hear the Good Humor Truck, a sound idea that makes me laugh and drool at the same time!

Unfortunately I've found that personal redemption is generally a one way road. One person may be on that road and the other is on a path to Denial City. Sad as it may be, it is what it is. Most cannot take brutal honesty. It's an unfortunate face. Unfortunately there are those of us who will wield that brutal weapon regularly whether we go down in flames or not. It's our nature to be martyrs. Yes?
I hate it when u are right...about stuff like this...Yes, this is the most common and probable outcome, like what usually happens when a road forks in two completely different directions...As for brutal honesty...many cant take even carefully measured honesty if it gets into their shadow stuff. Of course, these same Denial City residents dont seem to mind the border/boundary crossings and saboteur raids that their own unacknowleged shadow aspects take on a regular basis. Here's your apple...and I already washed it for u.

I'll take those Shalom/Peace blessings Miles, and thanks. I was hoping a few of the tribe might show up and share a perception, a vibe, a moment, an observation that felt personally Jew-ish....maybe everybody is too busy on other more serious forums. like the one about farting I saw/smelled previously.....which reminds me of my family......

MsWiz, as always thanks for the reminder. I didnt expect poetry to so quickly challenge my unfinished business (can we spell codependence), but I welcome any creative/ therapeutic endeavor that doesnt charge $200 for 30 minutes, just grunts intermittently and then writes a prescription for mind numbing drugs. Margaritas on the other hand..if made correctly and with positive intention...can be a panacea!

Muchas gracias pkd, and dkowench dont worry...anybody with wench in their name is supercool with CaptCliff! ....and..I just realized I want to change the phrase noble conscience with "exquisite corpse", which has several layers of meaning, all very appropriate. I am so afraid that the reader wont "understand" that I make dull compromises (in wording)that are either too obvious or just wrong...hey, I'm learning!!

Yeah, and I believe it was the band New Radicals who sang (about Alice Cooper, Courtney Love,and Marilyn Manson, etc.)
You're all fakes
Run to your mansions
Come around, we'll kick your ass in!

Don't let go
One dance left
Don't give up
Can't forget (you Get What You Give)

definitely the latter inkraven....i have come to know some of u and can only marvel at how real (truthful)the words/work is...in a world/society that appears to have become masters of superficiality...like reality tv. More personally, since u dont know me...I have only recently "crossed over" (nods to John Edwards) and left the safe confines of my therapy chair to attempt to tell MY truth versus nodding alot and saying, "I understand..oh it looks like our time is up..". Oh yeah, ask the other peeps...I'm sarcastic...but not mean. In fact, I bleed alot...and seek solace in a place with people of depth .

Hell no, it's good...as good as any other stream of 3000 year old human identity...it's the tie that binds, the fresh bagels on Sunday morning, the smell of chicken soup....a felafel in Israel, what else...?

oh yeah, one more thing...y'all know Chinese Emperor Qin's terra-cotta army....8000 beautifully detailed ceramic soldiers buried with him for his protection. If something happens to me...I want to be buried with 8000 clay figurines in the likeness of Katie, Denise, and Alicia. I mean it....

thanks u all....the Capt was so insecure about it he posted and ran like a scared rabbit..only to just return..and take a peek at yer comments. So I'm not dead? i just told some truth...weird.