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Giocamo
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Sat 08/08/09 09:36 AM
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who's this sound like...
tyranny = a government in which absolute power is vested in a single ruler... Liberty = the quality or state of being free...the power to do as one pleases...freedom from physical restraint...freedom from arbitrary or despotic control...the positive enjoyment of various social, political, or economic rights and privileges... |
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People should take responsibility for the bogus bs information that is sent via email etc. Period. I see nothing wrong with flagging such emails. You can't defend yourself against things you are no aware of. |
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Liberals Liberty vs Tyranny...how's that for starters... |
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The anti healthcare folks were the rowdy ones here the other day when she was here. The pro healthcare folks were very orderly and considerate. like Rush says...Community Agitaors can't be bitchin'...when communities agitate... |
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Well to be far Rush Limbuge said that the Demorciates are Nazis and the health care bill is similar to the one used in Nazi Germany. Yea... he's right !... |
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Lies on the right?
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I was watching the demonstration that happened here yesterday over the National Healthcare plan. Pelosi was here touring a clinic. When they interviewed the anti healthcare people, I was shocked to see that they believe lies or made up facts. The national healthcare bill is not a violation of anyone's constitutional rights at any level, so where do they get that information? It is not socialized healthcare either so where do they get that information? The anti national health care people seem to believe that the healthcare problem is not a serious one. Is that because they all have healthcare? Do people realize that there are forces at work that do not want this type of healthcare offered because it would hurt their bottom line? That these forces would say anything to stop this from happening? I have to wonder is this the result of an underlying issue that has nothing to do with healthcare. Because the validity of the argument is mute????? The heaathcare is not even a hand out, it is an option program. Noone has to take the option. once again...right on page 16...after this bill becomes law...and is in place for 1 year...employers will no longer be able to add " new "...enrollments...so...if you start a new job...get laid off...or...your employer run plan changes for some reason...you will not be able to join your new companies healthcare plan...your only option will be the government plan...as far as Obama saying he just wants competition...theres already 1300 companies who provide healthcare...if the goverment becomes an option...they'll put everyone out of business...because the government...doesn't have to make a profit to survive... You are misreading. All insurances have enrollment periods. After the enrollment period is done you cannot enroll or disenroll until the enrollment period comes again. The option of national healthcare being there for you during a time when you missed the enrollmemt or whatever is still an option. Most people would be glad of the coverage during one of these enrollment fiasco times. nice try...I think you need to read it again...it says right in their " limitations "...on new enrollments...and after said period of 1 years...NO NEW ENROLLMENTS... |
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Topic:
Lies on the right?
Edited by
Giocamo
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Fri 08/07/09 09:39 AM
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I was watching the demonstration that happened here yesterday over the National Healthcare plan. Pelosi was here touring a clinic. When they interviewed the anti healthcare people, I was shocked to see that they believe lies or made up facts. The national healthcare bill is not a violation of anyone's constitutional rights at any level, so where do they get that information? It is not socialized healthcare either so where do they get that information? The anti national health care people seem to believe that the healthcare problem is not a serious one. Is that because they all have healthcare? Do people realize that there are forces at work that do not want this type of healthcare offered because it would hurt their bottom line? That these forces would say anything to stop this from happening? I have to wonder is this the result of an underlying issue that has nothing to do with healthcare. Because the validity of the argument is mute????? The heaathcare is not even a hand out, it is an option program. Noone has to take the option. once again...right on page 16...after this bill becomes law...and is in place for 1 year...employers will no longer be able to add " new "...enrollments...so...if you start a new job...get laid off...or...your employer run plan changes for some reason...you will not be able to join your new companies healthcare plan...your only option will be the government plan...as far as Obama saying he just wants competition...theres already 1300 companies who provide healthcare...if the goverment becomes an option...they'll put everyone out of business...because the government...doesn't have to make a profit to survive... |
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Topic:
Lies on the right?
Edited by
Giocamo
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Fri 08/07/09 09:01 AM
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I was watching the demonstration that happened here yesterday over the National Healthcare plan. Pelosi was here touring a clinic. When they interviewed the anti healthcare people, I was shocked to see that they believe lies or made up facts. The national healthcare bill is not a violation of anyone's constitutional rights at any level, so where do they get that information? It is not socialized healthcare either so where do they get that information? The anti national health care people seem to believe that the healthcare problem is not a serious one. Is that because they all have healthcare? Do people realize that there are forces at work that do not want this type of healthcare offered because it would hurt their bottom line? That these forces would say anything to stop this from happening? I have to wonder is this the result of an underlying issue that has nothing to do with healthcare. Because the validity of the argument is mute????? when you're trying to sell something...to 85% of the people...who are happy with what they already have...it's a losing proposition...if Obama really wanted to do it right...he'd fix it for the 10 million or so...who work...are poor...and don't have healthcare...like one of the townhall protesters said.." It'll be a cold day in hell...before I let Obama socialize my healthcare ! "... |
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Lies on the right?
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read the bill...the reason most of thses people are outraged...is because...THEY READ THE BILL !!!...here's the link...happy reading...
http://edlabor.house.gov/documents/111/pdf/publications/AAHCA-BillText-071409.pdf |
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Why is it ok for ACORN...
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like Rush says..." Community Organizers...can't be bitchin'...when Communities Organize "... as Rush says...he's right !!...99.1% of the time... ...also...just to piss you off... Why would anyone be pissed, the guy is an idiot. and right !!!!! Why would I be suprised by the fact that you think he is right... Off to find something more constructive to do.. 20 million listeners a week...the most popular radio show in the world... |
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Why is it ok for ACORN...
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like Rush says..." Community Organizers...can't be bitchin'...when Communities Organize "... as Rush says...he's right !!...99.1% of the time... ...also...just to piss you off... Why would anyone be pissed, the guy is an idiot. and right !!!!! |
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Why is it ok for ACORN...
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like Rush says..." Community Organizers...can't be bitchin'...when Communities Organize "... as Rush says...he's right !!...99.1% of the time... ...also...just to piss you off... |
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Why is it ok for ACORN...
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like Rush says..." Community Organizers...can't be bitchin'...when Communities Organize "... Who cares what Rush has to say except those that think just like him. he's right !...Obama was a Community Aggitator...and now...the folks are Organizing aginst him...the Dems...and their agenda... |
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Why is it ok for ACORN...
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like Rush says..." Community Organizers...can't be bitchin'...when Communities Organize "...
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How can anyone support the other side after what Bush and his party did to America? I honestly wish to know and you honestly think this is gonna be better.. yes and yes... |
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How can anyone support the other side after what Bush and his party did to America? I honestly wish to know unless you've been asleep....it's gotten much worse... |
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eh, better her than another rich, white old man. did she say that ...or...did you !... |
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Topic:
Deficits
Edited by
Giocamo
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Wed 08/05/09 09:02 PM
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Wednesday, August 05, 2009 Seventy-one percent (71%) of U.S. voters say President Obama’s policies have increased the size of the federal deficit, according to a new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey. Only five percent (5%) say the president’s policies have cut the deficit, and 10% say they have had no impact. Thirteen percent (13%) are not sure. Eighty percent (80%) of investors say Obama’s policies have driven up the deficit, a view shared by just 57% of non-investors. Not surprisingly, 88% of Republicans blame the president’s policies, compared to 52% of Democrats. But 79% of voters not affiliated with either party agree. Obama has initiated a number of big spending programs intended to jump-start the U.S. economy, and the Treasury Department estimates that the federal debt has grown by more than a trillion dollars since he took office. In his defense, the president notes that he inherited both an economic crisis and an already sizable deficit from President Bush. http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/august_2009/71_say_obama_s_policies_have_driven_up_deficit I'd like to know who the 5% were that said Obama's cut the deficit.. In his defense, the president notes that he inherited both an economic crisis and an already sizable deficit from President Bush....If I'm not mistaken...Obama was right their in the Senate...voting for everything he says he inherited...also...It took GW Bush...2 1/2 years to add 1 Trillion dollars to the National Debt...Obama did it in 6 months... |
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Single Payer Healthcare...
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It seems to me if Obama really wanted to get everyone insured he would concentrate on the people who have no insurance instead of telling the people who have insurance they have to drop theirs and get the governments.80% of the people say they like the health insurance they have so why screw it up?If the government wants everyone insured they should have their own program(like Cobra)where if you had no insurance you could purchase it through the government or get your own.It makes me suspicious and Obamas plan does ring of Socialism when he keeps talking about this total take over of health care. This is one of the biggest bills and one of the biggest changes in the history of the United states.Every page should be read and everything in that bill should be discussed and agreed on.Obama hasn't even read the bill nor has the majority of people voting on it.This kind of stupid logic is hard to believe.Could you imagine if you were buying a house and the bank handed you a contract over 1,000 pages thick.Then imagine not even reading it and signing it.How stupid would that be? The government is anything but efficent.They have a long history of screwing things up and paying 10 times what a private company would pay.I also don't buy for a second that our taxes would not go up by leaps and bounds because of the cost.Many have said as much as 1/3 of our paycheck would go to taxes.I believe this to be true.Go to Canada and see how high their taxes are and how much they take out of your paycheck to pay for their health care. How stupid is it when No matter how many times Obama tells people if they are happy with their insurance they can keep it, folks like you keep distorting the message. once again...they can keep it...unless...this bill has been in place one year...and...you change jobs...get fired...or...change your plan...the your only option will be thw government plan...page 16...read it again...slowly... |
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Topic:
System of Oppression
Edited by
Giocamo
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Tue 08/04/09 03:10 PM
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U.S. citizens constitute 5 percent of the global population. U.S. inmates constitute 25 percent of the world's prisoners. The U.S. has a higher proportion of its citizens jailed than any other country in history. Close to 70 percent of America's prisoners are people of color. A black male has a greater than one in four lifetime chance of serving a prison sentence. Besides the obvious education and income argument, blacks are disproportionately incarcerated as a result of the “prison-industrial complex” and the “war on drugs.” Through identifying these two central factors, I believe it will be clear that this was a premeditated systematic attack on the black community. First, I will discuss the prison-industrial complex. The U.S. Prison-Industrial Complex (PIC) is the cruel, hastily emerging domestic component of imperialist globalization. The prison-industrial complex is the process in which the interest groups that represent organizations engage in business with correctional facilities like prison guard unions, construction companies, and surveillance technology vendors, who as a result of the lucrative dealings become more interested in profit than actually rehabilitating criminals or reducing crime rates. We can understand this better by understanding and analyzing the facts. Since 1991, the rate of violent acts has decreased by 20 percent. But the number of people in prison has increased by 50 percent. The incarceration of such a huge sector of the U.S. population is rooted within the laws of capitalist economics, which in effect has become the insatiable drive to make profits at the expense of human development. The U.S. has the largest prison population in the industrialized world (2 million people) and it is growing by leaps and bounds in the current period of so-called economic prosperity. The destructive role of the PIC in the lives of poor people in the U.S. mirrors what the IMF is doing to destroy poor people throughout the world, especially in the developing countries. The expansion of private prisons is considered by many experts to be the most profitable industry in the U.S. today. The Corrections Corporations of America, the country's largest private-prison conglomerate, generates huge profits by operating 46 penal institutions in 11 states, including seven juvenile facilities. Many of the most influential Wall Street firms and investment banks, from American Express to Smith Barney pour an estimated $35 billion annually into supporting prison bond issues, construction and the privatization of prisons. You may ask how the prisons create profit. Many prisoners are paid only pennies an hour to build houses for the elderly and the disabled, wire schools for computers, fight forest fires, and so on. Between 1980 and 1994 the value of goods produced by prisoners rose from $392 million to $1.1 billion. The PIC is the second-largest employer in the U.S. Corporations, such as American Express and Microsoft, profit off prison sweatshops. This slave labor takes the jobs of unionized workers who could be doing the same tasks. Unions should make it their business to organize these prisoners into unions so that they aren't used as scab labor. If you will recall, the unpaid labor derived from African slavery for nearly three centuries provided the platform for the accumulation of capital by a tiny segment of the U.S. population. U.S.-style apartheid continued legally for another 100 years after the abolition of slavery in 1863-65. Today the prison system is the institutional legacy for extreme racist repression. The PIC has in many ways been fueled by the aforementioned “war on drugs.” At the end of the 20th century, the perception of widespread abuse of cocaine caused policy-makers in the U.S. to consider drug abuse a serious social problem rather than as cases of personal failures. I characterize this as the apparent sentiment of the American majority that working class addiction to crack is a crime. But, middle- and upper-class addiction to drugs or alcohol is a disease. That sentiment is responsible for influencing politicians' ridiculous tough-on-crime rhetoric, which would lead to zero tolerance policies in all walks of American life including school, workplace, and etc. In federal prisons, 60 percent are drug offenders with no history of violence. It is not unusual that inmates are doing 20 years and more for just being present in a house where drugs were found. The ten states with the greatest racial disparities are: Illinois, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Maine, Iowa, Maryland, Ohio, New Jersey, North Carolina, and West Virginia. In these states, black men are sent to prison on drug charges at 27 to 57 times the rate of white men. According to Jamie Fellner, Human Rights Watch associate counsel, "Most drug offenders are white. Five times as many whites use drugs as blacks, But blacks comprise the great majority of drug offenders sent to prison”. The solution to this racial inequity is not to incarcerate more whites, but to reduce the use of prison for low-level drug offenders and to increase the availability of substance abuse treatment." U.S. federal, state and local governments have spent hundreds of billions of dollars trying to make America “drug-free.” Yet heroin, cocaine, methamphetamine and other illicit drugs are cheaper, purer and easier to get than ever before. Nearly half a million people are behind bars on drug charges, which is more than all of Western Europe (which features a larger population) incarcerates for all offenses. The war on drugs has become a war on families, a war on public health, and a war on our constitutional rights. In conclusion, both the war on drugs and the prison-industrial complex are major factors that contribute to the disproportionate imprisonment of black people. These factors have a distinct relationship that creates a cycle that when many enter the prison system it they cannot escape it. This is a result of policies that make it difficult to reintegrate back into society because of limits on employment, voting, and basic civil liberties. Hopefully, through awareness the inhumane byproducts of these factors can be minimized. by Nick Walker the old Jesse Jackson arguement...whites commit most of the crime...well son...seeing as though blacks only make up 13% of the population...and ...whites represent 72%...I would think that most of the crime would be commited by whites...although...there's a crime epidemic in black communities...go figure...the % commited by blacks...is astounding...based on their overall % of population... |
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