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Sat 06/23/18 06:03 PM




Believe whatever blows your skirt up.

I did not canvass my neighborhood checking out the ethnicities of my neighbors. I did not knock on a single door. The only thing I did, was check with the Township Council to see what the property taxes on the residence would be.

That was enough for me.


we are outliers in this crowd when it comes to race hangups ... it seems


THIS is what sparked it.. Who mentioned "race" first?



My OP is about a black teen (child) shot in the back by a cop, And you immediately declared him a "thug" and said you were backing the cop.

I find myself wondering if your pic is real, because you sure don't sound like a black person.
oh please youre such actually never mind, dont want the mods to delete the thread, focusing on my pics is just proof that you have no cogent point.

back to the point.

If a teen or a person is involved in a shooting of another person ( do I need to explain the concept of shooting someone)they are not law abiding citizens.

A thug is a criminal especially those involved in shootings? can you tell me why a 17 year old teen has a gun and using it to shoot others?


Because Im Black I should side with all black people and Democrats?

You're as bad as Hillary Clinton that said all women should have voted for her because she is a woman.

I dont support any criminal of any race , is that clear enough for you.

By the way that is a racist comment, about not sound like a black person

how are black people suppose to act like?

am I suppose to use urban slang and instead of saying "ask" I should use "Axe" instead?

By the way I know youre black and do you live in a black neighbourhood or a white neighbourhood.



so tell me who mentioned Race first Viper, I didn't.

since you posted what I actually said.


In the context of where I live, you did.

As pertains to you personally, and my perception of your statements, I did.

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Sat 06/23/18 06:02 PM
Edited by Viper1j on Sat 06/23/18 06:05 PM
When I went house shopping, I never once thought to myself "where are the black neighborhoods?" Or "where are the white neighborhoods?"

The ONLY thing I considered was: "how central is this location to my service calls?" And what am I looking at and mortgage payments? And what will the property taxes be on this property? And how big is the backyard, and where can I make space in the garage for my dog to have her puppies?.

It could have been an all-black neighborhood, it could have been an all-white neighborhood, it could have been exactly what I have now, a multicultural neighborhood. I didn't know, and I didn't care. I got a good price for my home, I just got my first tax bill, and I'm extremely happy with it. In my backyard is so large, I made ditch my push mower, and purchase a riding mower.

The race and or ethnicity of my neighbors doesn't mean two farts in a hurricane to me. They're good people. And if I were an all-black neighborhood, I'm sure they would be good people too.

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Sat 06/23/18 05:51 PM
Edited by Viper1j on Sat 06/23/18 05:52 PM


And people wonder why these kids turn out like they do. It isn't opportunity. It's their raising.



this kid wasnt as much a mystery. he had sympathy and fear and a mom who he wanted to do right, but while she was probably WORKING HARD, like society insists single women do, the ENVIRONMENT had this teen pressured to go another way.



I wonder why people turn out like they do too, especially the heartless and hateful.


I don't think it's genetic, although it might be..

Mostly the hate is passed down from parent or Uncle to child, and the cycle continues to repeat.

I have faith that people like that are just dinosaurs, too stupid to find a tar pit to stumble into .

They're a dying breed, and they know it. That's why they cling to Trump so fiercely. He's their Messiah, and they believe he will lead them to the promised land.

The Dinosaur leading the dinosaurs. Eventually, they'll find a tar pit large enough to hold them all.

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Sat 06/23/18 05:47 PM


Believe whatever blows your skirt up.

I did not canvass my neighborhood checking out the ethnicities of my neighbors. I did not knock on a single door. The only thing I did, was check with the Township Council to see what the property taxes on the residence would be.

That was enough for me.


we are outliers in this crowd when it comes to race hangups ... it seems


THIS is what sparked it.. Who mentioned "race" first?



My OP is about a black teen (child) shot in the back by a cop, And you immediately declared him a "thug" and said you were backing the cop.

I find myself wondering if your pic is real, because you sure don't sound like a black person.
oh please youre such actually never mind, dont want the mods to delete the thread, focusing on my pics is just proof that you have no cogent point.

back to the point.

If a teen or a person is involved in a shooting of another person ( do I need to explain the concept of shooting someone)they are not law abiding citizens.

A thug is a criminal especially those involved in shootings? can you tell me why a 17 year old teen has a gun and using it to shoot others?


Because Im Black I should side with all black people and Democrats?

You're as bad as Hillary Clinton that said all women should have voted for her because she is a woman.

I dont support any criminal of any race , is that clear enough for you.

By the way that is a racist comment, about not sound like a black person

how are black people suppose to act like?

am I suppose to use urban slang and instead of saying "ask" I should use "Axe" instead?

By the way I know youre black and do you live in a black neighbourhood or a white neighbourhood.

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Sat 06/23/18 05:42 PM

then i suggest you actually read the whole body of their statments your self and see that the context matches the most blatant i have quoted and not your imagined interpretations

here is the link again



What you're not getting, is that EVERYONE is "subject to the jurisdiction of".

Don't believe me? Try going to Saudi Arabia and getting drunk.

Before they chop your head off, or give 90 lashes, say "You can't do this! I'm an American, I'm "subject to the jurisdiction of" American laws. See how that works for you.

If you're in the US, you're subject to the jurisdiction of" US law. If you're in France, you're subject to the jurisdiction of" French law.

See how that works?

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Sat 06/23/18 05:22 PM



Well.... He WAS brown after all..


so nothing to do with the kid being involved in an earlier shooting?




would it matter? he could have just been involved in protesting, and the same response would be being posted ...




OR he could have been picked up by his friends AFTER the shooting. If there was in fact a shooting at all, and if his friends were even involved in it.

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Sat 06/23/18 04:59 PM

Less welfare here could benefit Americans. Losing weight would would improve their help. Less foodstamps being sold for liquor would improve health and probably keep a lot out of jail. Welfare queen might have a change of heart and stop having unwanted kids. Maybe even go to work.


No one in the camps, is taking a single scrap of food out of your mouth. Why don't you check out the pictures of Auschwitz?

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Sat 06/23/18 04:55 PM
Edited by Viper1j on Sat 06/23/18 04:57 PM
Believe whatever blows your skirt up.

I did not canvass my neighborhood checking out the ethnicities of my neighbors. I did not knock on a single door. The only thing I did, was check with the Township Council to see what the property taxes on the residence would be.

That was enough for me.

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Sat 06/23/18 03:32 PM



the 'right way' happened to favor white Europeans who had been in the states for two years already ... times have changed ... the comparison is not quite the same. ...




Ellis Island was not the cake wake that modern society portrays it. There were 4 points that all Europeans were evalated on. Not meeting all four of these points were grounds for being placed on the next boat back to Europe. All immigrants were informed of the requirements before they boarded their ship:

1. Not having proof of identity and date of birth
2. Criminal history
3. Mental illness
4. Long tern illness. All immigrants received a basic medical examination. If one was sick they were placed in an infirmary with medical treatment. Parents were separated from children and male and female family members were separated in different buildings. If still sick after 10 days they were returned to their home country.

My mothers parents came from Germany (1912) and my fathers parents came from Sweden (1900). In their words lots of Europeons were repatriated back to their country of origin.

If the above four requirements were still in place the news media would call it unfair. Again, Ellis Island was not the cake wake.


I wonder how they had 'proof' of no criminal history in the 17 or 18th century.


Ever read The Scarlet Letter?

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Sat 06/23/18 03:28 PM
Thank you..

It's nice to have a lawyer in the house... sometimes. pitchfork

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Sat 06/23/18 03:25 PM
Well.... He WAS brown after all..

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Sat 06/23/18 01:52 PM

. In 1866, Senator Jacob Howard clearly spelled out the intent of the 14th Amendment by stating:

"Every person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons. It settles the great question of citizenship and removes all doubt as to what persons are or are not citizens of the United States. This has long been a great desideratum in the jurisprudence and legislation of this country."

This understanding was reaffirmed by Senator Edward Cowan, who stated:

"[A foreigner in the United States] has a right to the protection of the laws; but he is not a citizen in the ordinary acceptance of the word..."

The phrase "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" was intended to exclude American-born persons from automatic citizenship whose allegiance to the United States was not complete. With illegal aliens who are unlawfully in the United States, their native country has a claim of allegiance on the child. Thus, the completeness of their allegiance to the United States is impaired, which therefore precludes automatic citizenship.


The person makes the claim of allegiance, not the country.

In a way that's kind of a shame. In a perfect world, Russia could claim Trump, and get him out of America's hair.

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Sat 06/23/18 01:40 PM
Edited by Viper1j on Sat 06/23/18 01:45 PM


I'll address the last question first. I live in a diverse neighborhood. My next-door neighbor to the east is a Caucasian female, my next-door neighbor to the west is an interracial couple with three children, directly across the street from me is an Asian couple and we all pretty much hang out with everyone. We don't have any issues "like that".


So you dont live in all black neighbourhood, thank you for making my point


As if I would care if it was an "all black neighborhood".

I bought this house, because the price was good, the taxes were low, and the neighborhood was quiet. I didn't canvass the neighborhood, knocking on doors, to check the ethnicity of my neighbors before I bought the place.

In fact, I had no idea of my neighbors were, until it was moving day, and they came over and introduced themselves and offered to help me.

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Sat 06/23/18 01:38 PM

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Sat 06/23/18 01:30 PM
Edited by Viper1j on Sat 06/23/18 01:35 PM
All they did, was what any parent does, put the birth certificate away in a safe place, until the day comes that the child needs it.

Birth certificate plus United States location equals American (or US if you prefer) citizenship.

In all fairness though, this country was in possession of a little more sanity at that time, and we didn't have a Klansman sitting in the Oval Office.

Believe it or not, there was a time in this country, where you could marry a person, and if you were a citizen, they became an American citizen on the spot. When I was in college, I had a friend that was paid $25,000 to marry a girl from Saudi Arabia. (Keep in mind this was in the late 70s early 80s).

He did it, she got her citizenship papers, he got paid, she sponsored her family, and it was the biggest mistake he ever made. He had an absolute nightmare trying to get divorced from her. The only way he managed to get out of it, was first to get an annulment, because he had never "consummated" the marriage.

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Sat 06/23/18 01:24 PM
Edited by Viper1j on Sat 06/23/18 01:27 PM
Six of one, half dozen of the other..

By the way, a "legal registered alien" is aka a "green card holder"

Neither of the Lees had one.

https://www.uscis.gov/tools/glossary/lawful-permanent-resident


Lawful Permanent Resident

Any person not a citizen of the United States who is living in the U.S. under legally recognized and lawfully recorded permanent residence as an immigrant. Also known as “permanent resident alien,” “resident alien permit holder,” and “Green Card holder.”

Permanent residents are also commonly referred to as immigrants; however, the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) broadly defines an immigrant as any alien in the United States, except one legally admitted under specific nonimmigrant categories (INA section 101(a)(15)). An illegal alien who entered the United States without inspection, for example, would be strictly defined as an immigrant under the INA but is not a permanent resident alien. Lawful permanent residents are legally accorded the privilege of residing permanently in the United States. They may be issued immigrant visas by the Department of State overseas or adjusted to permanent resident status by U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services in the United States.

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Sat 06/23/18 01:18 PM

That way of thinking is getting your people killed. The girls in the slinderman case were only 12 but charged as adults.


Pathetic isn't it? If the high school quarterback, had banged one of them, he would be a "rapist", and she would be a "child sexual abuse victim". But somewhere, there's a magic button, and when the DA pushes it, the "child" is instantly and magically transformed into an "adult".

Yes, hypocrisy abounds.


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Sat 06/23/18 01:06 PM
Edited by Viper1j on Sat 06/23/18 01:22 PM
LOL THEY WERE NOT! They were a married couple of actors on location with a traveling performing arts theater group.

They happened to be performing in San Francisco(Chinatown to be specific.) when Mrs. Lee gave birth.

Try again.

Perhaps this might point you in the right direction..

Lee's father, Lee Hoi-chuen, was one of the leading Cantonese opera and film actors at the time and was embarking on a year-long opera tour with his family on the eve of the Japanese invasion of Hong Kong. Lee Hoi-chuen had been touring the United States for many years and performing in numerous Chinese communities there.

Although many of his peers decided to stay in the US, Lee Hoi-chuen returned to Hong Kong after Bruce's birth. Within months, Hong Kong was invaded and the Lees lived for three years and eight months under Japanese occupation. After the war ended, Lee Hoi-chuen resumed his acting career and became a more popular actor during Hong Kong's rebuilding years.

Lee's mother, Grace Ho, was from one of the wealthiest and most powerful clans in Hong Kong, the Ho-tungs. She was the half-niece of Sir Robert Ho-tung,[20][31] the Eurasian patriarch of the clan. As such, the young Bruce Lee grew up in an affluent and privileged environment. Despite the advantage of his family's status, the neighborhood in which Lee grew up became overcrowded, dangerous, and full of gang rivalries due to an influx of refugees fleeing communist China for Hong Kong, at that time a British Crown colony.[29]

After Lee was involved in several street fights, his parents decided that he needed to be trained in the martial arts. Lee's first introduction to martial arts was through his father, from whom he learned the fundamentals of Wu-style t'ai chi ch'uan.[32]

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Sat 06/23/18 01:00 PM
Edited by Viper1j on Sat 06/23/18 01:02 PM
I'll address the last question first. I live in a diverse neighborhood. My next-door neighbor to the east is a Caucasian female, my next-door neighbor to the west is an interracial couple with three children, directly across the street from me is an Asian couple and we all pretty much hang out with everyone. We don't have any issues "like that".

And I reserve calling him a "thug" because all I know of him is that legally, he was still a child. And since he was running away, I'll go with the assumption that he was a frightened child. I have no evidence one way or another that he committed any crime. And now that he's dead, I guess we'll never know.

I know that in Canada things are different. I've even heard stories of the prosecution being able to appeal an acquittal. In the United States, we have to things that sets us apart from the rest of the world. One is a presumption of innocence, put another way, they have to prove we did something, we don't have to prove we didn't.

The other thing is, The State doesn't get a second bite at the apple. There are protections against double jeopardy enshrined in the Constitution. So now what we have is, a cop that killed a child, that may or may not have done something illegal, (by the way, in this country, running is not illegal.) That's dead, after being shot IN THE BACK by a person that only received his license to kill four hours earlier.

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Sat 06/23/18 12:46 PM
Edited by Viper1j on Sat 06/23/18 12:47 PM



It is not about if illegals committed crimes after they got into US.

They are already criminals for crossing over without legal papers.

Children born here to illegal parents should be sent back with parents.


Good luck repealing the 14th amendment to the Constitution of the United States. It's not impossible, all you have to do, is get 75% of the states to agree with you.

Of course, if you succeed, then you put your children and grandchildren at risk of losing their citizenship as well.

and again simply being born here is not instant citizenship according to the 14th.


Then you might be busy letting a few million people know that, as they take their children out of the maternity wards of hospitals all over this country.

I'll go back to my original example. Bruce Lee, born in San Francisco, left with his parents to return to China, returned 23 years later as an adult, with birth certificate in hand, and immediately accepted as a US citizen.

Care to explain that? Or was he simply an anomaly?

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