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Tue 08/13/13 08:52 PM
C'MON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No one else has anything to say about me, about how wonderful I am?

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Tue 08/13/13 08:36 PM
Edited by ZPicante on Tue 08/13/13 08:36 PM

Only if you promise to bite.
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Hello?!?!?!??!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!??????????????????
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Tue 08/13/13 08:33 PM

And you drink LOTS of coffee!
I want you.

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Tue 08/13/13 08:27 PM
<:|

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Tue 08/13/13 08:16 PM
^ Why yes! Yes I am wonderful!

I am also sexy.

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Tue 08/13/13 08:09 PM
Edited by ZPicante on Tue 08/13/13 08:10 PM
Who would like to discuss me for a while?

Please, tell me all the wonderful things about me! Me! Me!

Oh, I truly am wonderful.

Here is a list of things that make me wonderful:

--My beauts
--Hi.
--I like the color red (a little bit)!
--I use a lot of exclamation marks.
--My beauts!
--Oh, I am a colorful character. Very colorful.
--I can't sing.
--I can't dance.
--I CAN play the piano.
--I CAN draw.
--I CAN take amazing photographs.
--I CAN bake.
--I CAN write amazing tomes!
--I am so, so friendly! So friendly!

What do you think, my future husbands and wives?

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Wed 08/07/13 02:25 AM
I agree that Shakespeare's Sonnet 116 is beautiful. :thumbsup: According to your, and Shakespeare's, definition of love, I must love everyone...as I hate none. flowerforyou

In the spirit of trying to understand your concept of this, if there is nothing in between, and jealousy, pride and infidelity are all hate, then are sympathy, compassion and pity actually love?

Personally, I subscribe to the traditional definitions of love and hate as supported by modern psychology as being emotions. So, we are not likely to agree on anything using such different definitions. But I'm confident you won't hold that against me, as someone so vehemently passionate about LOVE. flowers
Sigh. No.

Trust, humility, and faithfulness* are parts of love. Love is a series of actions that do not change if the subject of that love changes; that is what "unconditional" means. No matter what flaws a person may have, or may attain, love sees beyond them always.

That said, unconditional love is impossible for a human being to achieve without God.

* Those being the approximate, conceptual opposites of jealousy, pride, and infidelity.

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Wed 08/07/13 02:08 AM
Edited by ZPicante on Wed 08/07/13 02:15 AM
And yet... none of you said anything until I commented. Interesting.

Guess why that is? None of you can recognize a decent poem when you see one. I have suffered reading some of the poems posted here, and let me tell you, no Keats, no Brownings, no Eliots reside here. The closest to those I've seen here is the gentleman in question.

And, no, his poem would be much improved *without* that line for the reasons I stated.

Sorry, poetry--real poetry--isn't just a bunch of emotional fluff. It's structure. It's imagery. It's art. Real poetry might actually take time and be somewhat difficult, even unpleasant, to write; it might actually force you to think (gasp!) and write and re-rewrite, then write again, your thoughts. Some poems take years to write. The ones that take less than years, less than weeks, must come from an exceptionally gifted mind. Guess how many people meet that qualification?

Harsh? Well, reality often is.

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Mon 08/05/13 11:09 PM
Edited by ZPicante on Mon 08/05/13 11:12 PM





I know that there is love that runs deeper than our flaws. I think that's what people consider unconditional love.

But realistically, a heinous enough act could kill anyone's love for even the one they cherish most in the world...even especially the one they cherish most in the world.


That description seems true: Love that runs deeper than our flaws.

I disagree with the second part: Love can endure even the most heinous acts. If you think about people who commit gruesome crimes, like murder, how their loved ones, much of the time, do not abandon them amidst their turmoil; their love endures. Even less extreme scenarios, like someone you love leaving you; your love for that person doesn't just go away. If it did, life would be exponentially easier, but exponentially shallower.


If your husband rapes, tortures and murders your daughter can you still love him unconditionally?
Yes. You can forgive. Forgiveness is a pivotal part of love.

"Love is not love / which alters when it alteration finds."

If God can forgive any person completely, so should we. It's still a choice; you can hold your hatred against extreme evil inside you and let it destroy you, or you can forgive; you can love. Those are your options.


Those are not the only two options.

I have no hatred in me...trust me, it's been thoroughly tested. Neither do I have to love someone who has changed into something THAT contrary to the person I had love for once.

My love is constant. In this scenario, it's the person that's altered...not my love. I would still love the person he was, but he is no longer that person.

There are thousands of options between hate and love. I can feel a great deal of compassion for the person they have become, even though they have stepped outside of the boundaries of my love.

I think most people don't truly know the boundaries of their love until they've actually been tested beyond their limits. I do believe everyone has their limits. We are not Gods, we are humans with human emotions...such as love.

flowerforyou
Love is not an emotion. First of all. Love might *involve* emotions, but love is not itself an emotion. Love is closest to an action. Perhaps love could be called "a conscious act of will."

That quote came from Shakespeare's Sonnet 116:

SONNET 116

Let me not to the marriage of true minds
Admit impediments. Love is not love
Which alters when it alteration finds,

Or bends with the remover to remove:
O no! it is an ever-fixed mark
That looks on tempests and is never shaken;
It is the star to every wandering bark,
Whose worth's unknown, although his height be taken.
Love's not Time's fool, though rosy lips and cheeks
Within his bending sickle's compass come:
Love alters not with his brief hours and weeks,
But bears it out even to the edge of doom.
If this be error and upon me proved,
I never writ, nor no man ever loved.

Clearly, you missed the point, or attempted to repeat the point, and failed. So, you've forced me to paraphrase Shakespeare. Thanks.

Even just looking at those two lines (which I quoted before), "love is not love / Which alters when it alteration finds," no one could put the notion more eloquently or succinctly. When a person changes, love remains steadfast, through "tempests," through trouble, all kinds of trouble. When a person alters, love does not alter. That's eternal, unconditional love.

Hmmm, no, there really are only two options. Either you love someone or you don't. Pretty simple. There may be a lot *surrounding* a situation, such as jealousy or pride or infidelity, but none of those things represent love; so, they must represent hate, and I'd argue that they do. Love is pretty black and white. Either you're striving to love or you're striving to hate; just as you're either striving to live or striving to die. There is no in between.

I should know.

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Mon 08/05/13 12:00 PM
*Bump*

You might want to look this over. It's pretty incredible.

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Sun 08/04/13 11:00 PM
Edited by ZPicante on Sun 08/04/13 11:08 PM
OOOOOOOOOOOOOF!
Did that ever STING!

What beauty! What beauty!
Didst my buttock put forth!

Lo, into the air the stench doth proceed
from betweenest mine cheeks!

THOOF! THOOF! THOOF! THOOF!

Ahhhh, man.

Gassy. Passy.

I Did Fart, The Poem

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Sun 08/04/13 10:57 PM

Well, i do appreciate everyone's view on this subject. In my opinion i feel as humans we can love to a certain extent especially when we get betrayed, disappointed,heartbroken and so on.Its only God in heaven that can still love us unconditionally regardless.
Yah.

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Sun 08/04/13 10:51 PM
Edited by ZPicante on Sun 08/04/13 10:55 PM
This is the best poem written on this site. Period.

It's abstract, but evocative. Subtle, but clear. The image of a door as a metaphor for possibilities is terribly cliche, but it is given a new face here. This not in comparison to the great Romantic poets--Browning, Keats, Longfellow, Poe, etc.--but compared to the whole of mingle, that's a pretty accurate assessment.

The only line I *really* don't like is "maybe she would breathe again." I think if you got rid of it completely the poem would be greatly improved; that line completely broke the momentum and mood of the rest of the poem. It's also trite and meaningless and everyone says they can't breathe to be dramatic. Everything else was pretty okay.

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Sun 08/04/13 10:32 PM
Edited by ZPicante on Sun 08/04/13 10:33 PM



I know that there is love that runs deeper than our flaws. I think that's what people consider unconditional love.

But realistically, a heinous enough act could kill anyone's love for even the one they cherish most in the world...even especially the one they cherish most in the world.


That description seems true: Love that runs deeper than our flaws.

I disagree with the second part: Love can endure even the most heinous acts. If you think about people who commit gruesome crimes, like murder, how their loved ones, much of the time, do not abandon them amidst their turmoil; their love endures. Even less extreme scenarios, like someone you love leaving you; your love for that person doesn't just go away. If it did, life would be exponentially easier, but exponentially shallower.


If your husband rapes, tortures and murders your daughter can you still love him unconditionally?
Yes. You can forgive. Forgiveness is a pivotal part of love.

"Love is not love / which alters when it alteration finds."

If God can forgive any person completely, so should we. It's still a choice; you can hold your hatred against extreme evil inside you and let it destroy you, or you can forgive; you can love. Those are your options.

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Sun 08/04/13 08:41 PM

I know that there is love that runs deeper than our flaws. I think that's what people consider unconditional love.

But realistically, a heinous enough act could kill anyone's love for even the one they cherish most in the world...even especially the one they cherish most in the world.


That description seems true: Love that runs deeper than our flaws.

I disagree with the second part: Love can endure even the most heinous acts. If you think about people who commit gruesome crimes, like murder, how their loved ones, much of the time, do not abandon them amidst their turmoil; their love endures. Even less extreme scenarios, like someone you love leaving you; your love for that person doesn't just go away. If it did, life would be exponentially easier, but exponentially shallower.

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Sun 08/04/13 08:18 PM
My beauts!

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Sun 08/04/13 07:01 PM


I will eat your souls.

Or our trash :p
Same thing. :)

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Sun 08/04/13 06:53 PM
I will eat your souls.

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Sun 08/04/13 02:07 PM

Maybe if you didn't snarl and look like you wanted to give people rabies more people would love you unconditionally. hahaha
Note that I didn't say I personally ascribe to the idea.

I am going to punch you all in the teeth!!

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Sun 08/04/13 01:23 AM
Edited by ZPicante on Sun 08/04/13 01:25 AM
Yes. Unconditional love does exist. But you won't see it in any romantic comedy or basically any of the mainstream media--"media" meaning "books" (a term used very lightly for most recent literature), movies, T.V., the internet, etc.

Where you'll find unconditional love is in families. You'll find it in churches. You'll find it in soup kitchens, hospitals, disaster relief organizations, hospices, in the work of EMT's, soldiers, missionaries, social service workers, nurses, CNA's, and, most of all, in the lives of everyday people of all kinds and professions. Sometimes, very rarely, you'll find such love between two people who are married, along with romantic love.

I say "married" because no other word adequately captures a true, lasting, self-sacrificial, strong, deep, mutual relationship--even, dare I say it--a life-long commitment.

I see all this in other people's lives, many other people's lives, but not in mine. And that's entirely my fault. That said, unconditional love is still possible. I see it every day. I believe in it wholeheartedly, but I don't think it's possible for me to execute it anymore.

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