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You promise? You mean...until you die. |
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Edited by
ZPicante
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Wed 09/16/09 12:18 AM
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ZPicante!my favorite rabbid 'coon hopped up on red bull and espresso!i love you too! good morning j! Yeet!! |
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You promise? |
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I hate you all.
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Peeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeefffffffffffffffffffffftyooooooooowt! *Coy*
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Yeet! YEET!
*Tremblin'* |
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Ha. :|
Why are you all so jealous of me? |
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Okay, I think I'll start a new thread later! I've screwed this one up by posting too many characters in that one post, stretching out the entire thread!
Okay! Thanks, guys! Thanks! |
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sphincter says what? That, apparently. |
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When will these lower beings understand?
O, despair! This is their deepest incapacity: To grasp my infinite and holistic superiority! O, lament! Despair! ... Anyway. |
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power of the mind
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Yay! Who doesn't love a good stream-of-consciousness?
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Topic:
Is "GOD" energy?
Edited by
ZPicante
on
Fri 09/04/09 12:31 AM
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Everybody eventually gets around to using the term "God" in philosophical discussions, either with reverence or disdain, but how often in a discussion do people actually define what they mean by that term? If you don't define it how can you talk about it when everyone probably has a different idea what that word represents? If God is energy, can you prove that God exists? YES. Are we energy? Yes we are. We exist. We can prove it. If God is the universe, can you prove that God exists? YES. If God is consciousness, can you prove that God exists? YES. If God is Nature, can you prove that God exists? YES. If God is some super natural being whom nobody has ever actually seen who is rumored to have created the universe and everything in it, can you prove that God exists? NO! WHAT??? YOU MISSED THE POINT ENTIRELY. There is no need to prove anything UNTIL you define the term "GOD." What my beliefs are is irrelevant. If you define that God as a supreme (humanoid) being of the male gender who created the world, then it is up to YOU to prove that if you declare this to be true and if you expect anyone to believe it. It is not up to me or anyone to prove something does NOT exist. Okay? I can explain evolution is spiritual terms, but it would take a while. Anyway, who is talking about evolution? This is not about "evolution." Why do some people always think the only choices are God or evolution? My point is that some people INSIST that God is a humanoid supreme being and that is where they drop the ball. They just expect you to believe it. They offer no proof at all and they have no answers to practical logical questions that I have presented about this being. Where does he live? How did he create the world? What does he look like? If he is a man, does he have male organs? If he does, what does he do with them? Does he eat food? Does he go to the bathroom? Does he have a wife or Mate or does he just like virgins? Don't tell me that God is a male supreme being who looks like a human if you can't think of him in that respect and answer a few questions. (and saying "I don't know" does not cut it.) Of course you "don't know"...but have you ever even thought about these things? If not, why not? Why don't people ask questions? Aren't you curious? Or are you just too terrified to question the awesome authority that spins these stories? People are always saying "God said this and God said that, and God demands this or that..." How the hell do they know? And who do they think they are kidding? We were, however, made in God's image. So, if you want to get a vague idea of what He looks like or how He is (intelligent, creative, emotional, etc.--but all only watered-down, tainted allusions to His characteristics in us, of course) you need only look in a mirror (well, if you were male--as far as physicality, that is! Man was made in God's image; woman created from man. You know). Aren't you the one who was saying that God Himself defies (or should defy) description? Even so, isn't that an irrational, sick request? I really think is. While you're at it, ask for a sensory description of love or the feeling one has when looking at their newborn child or what have you. Just sayin'. |
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Is "GOD" energy?
Edited by
ZPicante
on
Thu 09/03/09 11:51 PM
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Everybody eventually gets around to using the term "God" in philosophical discussions, either with reverence or disdain, but how often in a discussion do people actually define what they mean by that term? If you don't define it how can you talk about it when everyone probably has a different idea what that word represents? If God is energy, can you prove that God exists? YES. Are we energy? Yes we are. We exist. We can prove it. If God is the universe, can you prove that God exists? YES. If God is consciousness, can you prove that God exists? YES. If God is Nature, can you prove that God exists? YES. If God is some super natural being whom nobody has ever actually seen who is rumored to have created the universe and everything in it, can you prove that God exists? NO! WHAT??? YOU MISSED THE POINT ENTIRELY. There is no need to prove anything UNTIL you define the term "GOD." What my beliefs are is irrelevant. If you define that God as a supreme (humanoid) being of the male gender who created the world, then it is up to YOU to prove that if you declare this to be true and if you expect anyone to believe it. It is not up to me or anyone to prove something does NOT exist. Okay? |
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Is "GOD" energy?
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Man is responsible for introducing sin, death, into existence initially. Well, we know that's a lie right there. This is just another instance where the men who wrote the Bible were caught in a lie. Mankind could not possibly have been responsible for introducting sin, and death, into existence initially as the Bible claims. We now know that the Earth is 4.5 billion years old and life existed long before mankind ever came onto the scene. The dinosaurs lived and died, and even ate each other. Tons of animals and plants lived and died and ate each other. LONG BEFORE mankind ever came onto the scene. Clearly mankind could not be responsible for bringing sin and death into the world. So the men who wrote those lies are caught red-handed in their lies. So the whole biblical story starts off with a big fat lie. In fact it's entirely BUILT UPON that very LIE! There's no hope for the story. It's clearly as false as false can be. And, actually, if you were going to correct me, you could have mentioned how I missed the detail about Satan: How he was the first being to defy God. Then, man introduced sin--death--into the world and into mankind by His own defiance against God. But, since you don't believe the Bible is true, our little (for me, masochistic) "convo" seems to be at an end. *Happy sigh* |
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Is "GOD" energy?
Edited by
ZPicante
on
Thu 09/03/09 11:06 PM
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Well, let's start with this: Are you talking about the Old Testament or the New? It makes a difference, and there was indeed stoning in both! So, when confronted with the almost elaborately ambiguous circuitousness of your...thoughts, it is difficult to determine what exactly you're referencing, if anything in reality at all. If you're going to claim that Jesus was the son of Yahweh then the New Testament is meaningless without the Old. Of course, the two are inextricable; they always go hand-in-hand. If you can't justify Yahweh, then you're dead in the water for trying to claim that Jesus was his son.
If Yahweh isn't divine the whole story fall apart. And clearly Yahweh wasn't divine. So END OF STORY. Why even bother bringing up Jesus if Yahweh has already been shown to be a diabolical idiot? Jesus can't fix Yahweh. "Diabolical idiot"? No. You refuse to recognize the importance of justice. You refuse to recognize the prolific, undeserved blessings God gave to mankind throughout the Old Testament. You refuse to recognize man as being responsible for what he does; for when he does evil. You refuse to recognize God as God. You hate Him and everything He represents due to a profound misunderstanding of His character--reality supplanted by angry, defiant dismissal. So, I can have nothing further to say to you about that tangent until you address those things. The problem with your logic is that Yahweh is not a dia--what you claim Him to be. You gave examples; I explained as clearly and repeatedly as one could without hand puppets; and you refused to even hear, let alone acknowledge, any other explanation but your own clouded, bias-ridden conclusions. I have nothing else to say about that; you do not listen to, care about, or seem to understand anything anyone else has to say. It almost makes me sad. |
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Is "GOD" energy?
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God is loving, but He is also just; He cannot tolerate sin. Through no amount of effort can man remove sin from himself. In short, man cannot fix himself. That would just be yet another contradiction. If man is incapable of removing sin from himself then clearly he can't be responsible for it. Whoever wrote that book was clearly trying to make the masses feel like there is no way to out from under the threat of damnation. Either come to church or be damned! Because don't forget, those same authors made it a sin to not worship God on the Sabbath! That was just another reason to stone someone to death. In fact, that was actually given as a reason to stone someone to death specifically. What would be the profit in that? Those same laws would apply to everyone, including the authors (whom I believe God inspired). God allowed (and allows) man a choice--to obey or not--a choice, instead of being programmed or destroyed. Not only a choice, but the ability to be involved in their own sanctification; though that is a painful process, it is a significant one. |
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Is "GOD" energy?
Edited by
ZPicante
on
Thu 09/03/09 03:12 AM
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Please show me the passage where God told people to stone sinners to death; it must be in The Book of Stuff You Made Up: Chapter Invisible.
I'm sorry, I though you actually new about the religion. I didn't realize that I was speaking to someone who doesn't even know what the doctrine says. Why do you think people were stoning sinners to death in Jesus' day? Do you think that was their own idea? 
Clearly you don't even know anything about the religion that you claim to worship. I honestly don't know what to say to you at this point other than this is a pretty common thing I guess. If people actually understood the religion they'd probably realize the same things that I have come to realize about it. But since you'll likely never explain which verses--or books or testaments, for that matter--you're talking about, the stoning, like sacrifice, represented and demonstrated obedience under the Law. It doesn't seem extremely complicated. Or else explain what on earth your point was in bringing that up at all. Two different religions: Judaism versus Christianity. Jews do not believe Christ was their Messiah; CHRISTians do.
You do realize that Jesus himself was a Jew? Christianity is just an offshoot of Judaism. Nope; they (Islam) actually have the Qu'ran. Remember?
Yes, and do have any clue how the Quran came into being?  Yes, that's because The Catholic Church actually values other texts in addition to the Bible; quite a wrong thing indeed; reminiscent of the Pharisees, frankly, in the promoting of extra-Biblical, man-made writings. I would say, with the Protestant church, it is a very good kind of dissension. Did it bring difficulty? Of course. Such is life, at the moment.
So you're one of those people who believe that only your little protesting denomination has all the right answers, and everyone else has it all wrong? 
Please pray-tell, how did that happen? Were you just lucky to have accidently bumped into the correct version of Christianity, or was it your intense study of all the different religions of the world that led you to chose one particular denomination of Protestantism? Just speaking in general, though; there are always exceptions, of course. But, since you're falling in love with me and are prying for details about my life, I'll tell you I'm non-denominational. Meaning, I believe in Scripture itself and alone. Hmmm, a beautifully arbitrary statement! What "dirty work"? What are you even talking about?
I'm talking about Yahweh commanding people to stone sinners to death. I never dreamed that you were unware of this. I thought you were a Christian? 
Here you are attempting to defend the Biblical God and you have no clue what's even in the book. 
Personally I think you should study up on your religion before you attempt to debate it. Just my thoughts for whatever they're worth.  |
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Is "GOD" energy?
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His posts are replete with condescension. Would you prefer that my personal attacks were veiled, like his? I would do, but no one on this site seems to get sarcasm. I think this is where people jump to all the wrong conclusions. Just because a person feels that a particular mythology is absurd doesn't mean that they are being condenscending to anyone. All I'm saying is that the biblical picture of God is full of contradictions, absurdities, and stories that fly in the very face of what the book claims that God is supposed to be like. How is that being condensending to anyone? Unless of course they are attempting to claim authorship of the book. Why should you take personal offense to someone who sees the Bible as being utterly absurd? It seems fairly obvious why someone would take offense to calling a deepest belief absurd and contradictory (the former is an obvious conclusion coming from you, you being an unbeliever; the latter is simply untrue, no matter how many times you restate the word; denial can be an ugly thing.). As for your other, other tangent about Yahweh and Jesus Christ: The New Testament fulfills the Old; Jesus Christ fulfilled the Law of Yahweh. Believers were under Law; now, complete, under grace. Man's approach to God, however, has always been the same: By faith. Read the Book of Romans sometime; it talks in depth about the relationship between the Old and New Testament, the Law and Jesus Christ. Or, for another angle, read the book of Isaiah, which specifically prophesies about Christ's life, death, and resurrection. Your perspective might change slightly. |
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Topic:
Is "GOD" energy?
Edited by
ZPicante
on
Thu 09/03/09 02:24 AM
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ZPicante wrote:
As C.S. Lewis said (I think), "the road to Hell is paved with good intentions." So all you're saying here is the C. S. Lewis has no faith in God. Apparently he belives that God would allow people who have good intentions to be cast into hell. What kind of a God would that be?
These Christains make God out to be a truly heartless and totally insensitive jerk. Any God who doesn't have the sense to help people who have good intentions is no God at all in my book. Such an evil demon would be far beneath me in terms of ethics or morality, I can assure you of that. If that's what the Christians have made God into then the Christians have created a demon to worship as far as I'm concerned. God is loving, but He is also just; He cannot tolerate sin. Through no amount of effort can man remove sin from himself. In short, man cannot fix himself. Nonetheless, God provided means for man to "be made just" in His sight: Faith in Jesus Christ. |
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