Msharmony, you never got why consenting adult sex was okay?

How about freedom? Free will? etc.

I envision that he wants MORE. More time, more intimacy, more commitment, and the bottom line is ... more control.

Not very often. Mostly its the women.

By legalizing it makes the government a pimp I mean a LEGAL pimp. That stuff you mentioned was not legal no matter if members of the government were involved or not.

I am also not impressed by the horrible reputation of Saul as apposed to Paul, nor am I impressed by his alleged transformation. He went from persecuting believers to persecuting non believers. He was a murderer and a fanatic.

I don't think prostitution should be "legal" or "illegal."

If it is "legal" then it becomes regulated by the government and the government collects their cut in taxes hence making the government into a pimp.

If it is "illegal" then most of the time it is the women who get a record and the customer goes free. Why? I guess because he is a man and can't help himself. Who knows.

I think the transactions between a man and a woman behind closed doors are nobody's business.

This of course is about men as customers, and women as prostitutes.

It is not about all the other variations of sexual transactions going on, including sex slave trade, or men prostitutes etc.

That is using the term "Love" to mean ..."Let's live together and have sex." Or: Lets be an exclusive couple.... get rid of your other friends if they are of the opposite sex.

This is why so many people are afraid to "love" each other or express their love for each other.

That too. I think the issue is that one person wants to go to the next step... what ever the next step is.

Exactly.

Both people should stop playing the guessing game and state what they want from the relationship. Do they both want it to go further into an engagement or exclusive dating (going steady) and possibly marriage or not?

Is one simply pushing for a more intimate exclusive relationship? Is the other prepared for that?

In the end, if one is not ready for that, they should say no or break it off.

I have not tried to build one just yet. I don't have any beer cans. I think maybe I can find some pop cans. I'm going to video myself making it so if I cut myself with my zacto knife everyone can see it on youtube. LOL

When religion uses the word "faith" that is what they are doing. Trusting in the word of their Bible or their religious authority or priest, minister etc.

But that is not how I use the word faith. For me, faith is accepting what is, (no matter what). It is a feeling of serenity that all is as it should be according to universal law.

This serenity has no need to agree with the Religions or the scientists. I place my faith in the truth where ever it lies even if I don't know what it is.

The O.P. were my comments on Sam Harris's video on youtube. Here is the link to that video if anyone would like to watch it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCofmZlC72g

A word about discussion with "believers." They won't (and can't) discuss these subjects rationally because they believe in irrational myths.

Your prayers cannot change the opinions of rational intelligent people. Even if you believe they could, to pray for something like that is akin to black magic and would be interfering with another person's free will. So stop praying for other people to believe as you do.

I have discussions with scientists, atheists, and the religious theists and I ask them for evidence and for a rational reason for their assumptions and beliefs because I want to know why the believe what they believe.

They don't really know so they refuse to discuss it, or they quote from their authorities like Einstein or The Bible because they can't find the reason or the words.

I have questioned both sides. There are gigantic flaws in the reasoning on both sides.

The scientific atheists will imply that I am ignorant and uneducated and that is why I don't agree with their conclusions. -The end

The religious theists claim that no one can see the truth until they take the Lord Jesus into their heart. -The end.

What a bunch of B.S. Nobody wants to try to discuss the hard questions with reason and rationality, including scientists who believe that we evolved from an inanimate, unconscious, unaware, unintelligent substance, but have no idea how or where Life and consciousness suddenly began.

Theist just say "God did it" end of story.

Lots of cash?

What?

How about you just stop sinning and forgive yourself and become a better person?

I dislike the Hollywood and the network's tendency to create dark depraved super villains.

On the Mentalist, you have "Red John"
On Bones, you have "The Grave digger." and Gormagon the cannibal.
And Sherlock Holmes has Moriarty.

Just give me a series where the good guys solve the crime and get the bad guys and stop trying to scare people with depravity!

Good for you. I have always said that a legal marriage was a contract with a man, a woman and the devil. (The devil being the STATE)

Although a legal marriage appears to be a civil union, THE STATE is ultimately corrupt and that's why I feel it is "the Devil's" institution. (I may not believe in the Devil but there may be an non human life form alien that plays that role. If not then it just represents evil to me.)

If you believe this way though, then you should not register your children with the government with birth certificates, and SS numbers. It is when you do this that the government take over your family and feels that your children belong to them.

Unfortunately unless you live in a religious society like the Amish, it is difficult to function without being entangled with government.

You are absolutely right.

serene

Besides, how do you go "through" Jesus? Explain that.

I can go through a door, I can go through a storm, through space, but through a man? But it does not make any sense to "go through" a man that has been dead 2000 years.

So if you can't go through the man Jesus, then what does that mean?

I think it means through his teachings.
"To love thy neighbor as thyself. To love your enemy."

TO LOVE.

Go ahead. Tell me I am wrong. Tell me something that makes sense.