i'm not rejecting it Spider i'm refering to all the hot stuff in the universe better use up the dark energy or it's gonna push us out of this enclosed universe people seem to think we are in.

Well if entropy doesn't start kicking in soon in this enclosed universe we are in then the dark matter/dark energy is going to push us right out of the enclosed universe.

Spider theres also dark matter to take into consideration in that theory of the expanding universe whats forcing the universe to expand?

So whats the origin of your divine deity?

The law of conservation of mass, also known as the principle of mass/matter conservation, states that the mass of an isolated system (closed to all matter and energy) will remain constant over time. This principle is equivalent to the conservation of energy, in the sense when energy or mass is enclosed in a system and none is allowed in or out, its quantity cannot otherwise change (hence, its quantity is "conserved"). The mass of an isolated system cannot be changed as a result of processes acting inside the system. The law implies that mass cannot be created or destroyed, although it may be rearranged in space and changed into different types of particles; and that for any chemical process in an isolated system, the mass of the reactants must equal the mass of the products.

This can be argued with the theory that our universe is expanding according to science.

Howzit i understand why you think a creator is involved because science hasn't figured out how the molecules send protein with the important information for the developement of life forms.When they do though will you still think a creator is envolved?
It's basically what your saying you just like to detail it more.
Actually i think a few generations will come and go before they figure it out so forget about the question i asked.

Tennessees Butler Act...haha

The reason i told Howzit he was full of crapm cause he left out alot in his post.he didn't say that neanderthals and humans walked together and mated.He didn't mention that hominids are fossils that show the evolution of neanderthals.He keeps pumping his DNA theory thinking it leads to his proof.Problem is he seems to not realize that humans came from neanderthals which we have very similar DNA with.Theres also is the possibility that other Neanderthal like people walked the earth cause of how by race our bone structures are different.
People who study skeletal remains can identify a race by distinct differences in their bone structures.Why would God do that?He just used vague DNA crap to make his claim.There is alot more to evolution then just DNA.
Now with that typed i'm going to play Diablo 3.

this coming from a man that claimed Darwin was never a christian.Spider i'm not spreading lies you just want to claim your precious religion as never doing any wrong.In the past scientist were scared to come out with their theories do to being persecuted.Creationist and Jesus freaks claim that nonchristian scientist are trying to prove the bible wrong.So i can't make that claim about your kind.has this site become Christian Mingle part 2 all of a sudden?

i could even say the Hebrews got wind of Democritus atom theory and claimed God created the atom,the bible after all was written after Democritus was dead.Democritus did travel alot.

3 Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear. (hint: atoms)



You know the way this is worded it seems more as if Gods words,which you can't see physically,created everything.Just sayin.

Ok i'm back for a brief minute,yes you did lay down 2 theories and of course you are going to say the evidence leads to creation.Theres 2 different types of creation theres God as the creator or theres the elements that exist on the planet.So you choose God.I choose the elements thats came to be during the formation of our planet(billions of years ago) and the beginning process of life(100's of millions of years ago).Is there any need for anymore debating?Seems to me this about sums it up.You choose the God theory,i choose the elements and chemicals of the earth creating life theory.It's a draw.Ooops forgot the third creation theory offspings of aliens that once visited here.

Do you also realise that the Bible does not specify a world-wide flood?

The bible is a book on how you want to interpret it,thats why it's not reliable cause it' leaves people open to interpretation and to make money off of it cause of that. .Dude i don't have no more time for this back and forth **** i think your beliefs are a joke and you think my atheism bluntness is a joke so anyways enjoy your day i really have to go back to work.

Anyways i gotta go to work it was fun...cya.

so you're taking a verse and claiming it to be about atoms,thats what everyone else does.Takes a verse and interprets it their way.You didn't do anything different.

No science threatens christianity well actually the whole Abrahamic Religion Trilogy thats why it was considered evil.Science has embraced Deity believers but now it has came to a point where they are trying to use it to prove their is NO other option but God did it.Example of this would be you.

It's just sad to see science that was once labeled evil by christians is now being used to try and prove their myth is an existing myth.

I'm getting ready for work and i think you're full of crap cause you seem to just limit yourself to 1 BS logical answer(in your own mind) and it's a myth.There are more options than just your logical fantasy claim.Theres the infinite universe,theres that matter as a whole has always existed,yes it isn't eternal as individual matter but as a whole it's always existed.You just limit yourself to God and throw science in the mix to a religion that once believed atoms didn't even exist.
You use science to TRY and link it to your myth if you manipulate it enough YOU may end up believing it.Remember science has been proving science wrong and physics has been proven physics wrong.Your DNA crap you THINK may only lead to a creator but you do know that everything in DNA is found here right on earth and in the universe.A creator just didn't go "poof there it is" we are a mixture of elements and chemicals not desert sand.You're right where did the creator come from?
To believe man came from dust instead of life coming from water isn't a miracle it's stories from dumba s s uneducated Hebrews that stole most of their religion from the babylonians,sumerians..etc.As for your christian beliefs your religion along with islam had a habit of using threats to get peoople to convert.So take your theories and your religion and shove'em.Spider ain't no better he didn't even know Darwin was once a christian.He thinks he's smart cause all his answers are a type and click away.

uh i think your religion is one big myth so what's your point,if christians believe in their faith so be it. i'm not trying to convert people.As i stated your religion isn't the only religion and i believe all the other Deity driven religions are myth too.Not just christianity.I have made comments about Islam and Hebrew mythology also.It's all mythology so it all basically is lies.

Spider i posted to show the similarities i didn't post it to say it was about Jesus,your defending Jesus like you met him for coffee or read a book he ACTUALLY wrote.Dam Spider relax it's just hocus pocus religious crap.You seem to forget your religion isn't the only one that exist.