Always go into a date with the intention of showing your date the most fun-filled, safe, non-demanding, bestest time they ever had with a “new” interest and EXPECT NOTHING in return.

Your rewards will follow as they now know YOU as the one who makes them feel special and is worthy of their time/energy/love.

If you want an LTR, never stop doing the above so as to reinforce in their minds that you are the best.

In between dates; focus on making YOURSELF the best person you will ever know.

Your rewards will follow as everyone wants to hang with the “boss”.

True that.

Failures are easy and often as it takes work to keep a relationship working.

Behind every broken relationship is one side or the other having failed to keep their eyes open as the symptoms of unravelling began.

Yes, far too often than not.

Bogus cellphones vis-vis their claimed locale, finding out their actual locale is not as listed in their profile.

No idea as to how men's profiles stack up as an answer to your question... probably the same based on feed back from my "virtual dates" and their encounters with men.

There are a million web sites on how to approach, you’ll spend years filling your brain with knowledge.

As for using On Line Dating - OLD - to start, get the best pics possible and start from there.

There are a million web sites discussing how to develop a guys profile. Biggest issue you’ll discover is that a few OLD sites limit how much you can put in your profile, plus censorship.

Once you think you have the profile and pics nailed down, be prepared to send 768billion, 488million, 300thousand, and many hundreds of greetings to gals - that won’t read them.

Hopefully you’ll be messaged first by a gal who doesn’t play the old-skool dating games.

ETA - of the pics, shirtless pics frowned on by any gal over 20, same with too many sunglasses and ball-cap pics, pics with dead animals, those with “scary” guns; pretty much any pic that reeks of too much testosterone. Gals want all the guy pics they can get, but not overtly in the profile pics due to that whole toxic masculinity thing they whine about.

You’ll get the constant requests for the muscle pics once a convo is fully flowing...

You are - sadly - not alone partner.

Is “unselfishness” a legit word?

If you want a lasting relationship, try to make your partner feel that they are special at all times. Make them feel that when you are around, their world is a better place.

If they end it, move on as they were not worthy of you.

As has been said; (and hook-up OLD sites aside) depends on emotions established between the two.

There may have been enough phone dates/pre-dates to the point that all the two of you now want is each other.

OK, so this thread was not what I thought it would be...

Love doesn't have to be harps and angels and puppies and rainbows; I love my dogs, my friends, my family, my co-workers, that gal I just went out with. Same as the rest of you.

These are degrees of love that we all experience. An emotionally driven level in some kind of relationship with another, or at a human-level.

There is a love for mankind - our message forum here - "Community". I love this and the banter with yins guys; we don't know each other or anything - but we are in the community of mankind together.

This is so kool!

Makes perfect sense!

True that. Wonder why accounts with profile pics get looked at first? While those with no or bad pics get No or Maybes?

Humans are visual animals, if we like what we see we want to see more, which opens up communications (hopefully), to explore each other's minds.

Don't believe me? Try violating the 2 main rules of dating and see how far you get (regardless of gender) to explore each other's minds:

1. Don't be unattractive
2. See rule 1

Leave Shrek and Beauty and the Beast to the children.

Not necessarily. Women have the right to sew their wild oats just as men do. The whole slut-shaming is judgmental.

That said, it is dangerous behavior for the woman. It has been proven that women with repeated one-nighter body counts to satisfy their thrills will cause a seriously negative effect on her psyche, hurting her ability to ever solidly pair-bond with a mate in a lasting relationship. So she has her adventures now - and later becomes a lonely cat lady as she couldn't really love.

Men don't have such emotional attachment to the sex act and so they don't suffer the same effects.

But - it has been anecdotally discussed that successful pick-up artists - PUAs - often develop a contempt for women, due to their observed impression that women are - in their eyes - such stupidly easy pray. A man who has no respect for women will be every bit as pair-bond deficient.

The spread of casual sex has pretty much reduced us all to disposable people.

Depends.

For men -"Is it normal to wanna score on the first date?"

Oh hell yeah.

Men are hardwired by nature to try to procreate at every opportunity, just as a dog is hardwired to want a steak at every meal.

For women - "Do ladies ever want it?"

Oh hell yeah.
BUT - their sexual attraction is tied to their emotions - which can be turned on/off like a light switch and do not have to be tied to "soulful love" as they would want men to believe.

Thus the proverbial "gals weekend to Vegas" where a string of one-niters may occur "for the thrill" - an emotion she doesn't get at home anymore in her current relationship.
Or from her sneaks back to her Ex - for those emotional thrills that sneaking around create.

If the gal emotionally wants the thrill, they'll pull the trigger on the first date, such as if you were a top-tier guy.
If not, they have to develop a want for you first.

LOL, for some reason I thought it was a cat she boiled...ehh, they both taste like chicken.

That's actually a scientific fact as supported by tons of studies on "pair bonding".

It concluded that the more often the man in a relationship is intimate with his same partner, the more he is bonded to them despite his hard-wired DNA telling his body to go and sow his seeds as wide as possible to procreate.

Regardless, at its basic level, sex is expected to coexist without love.

And love can exist without sex.

That contradicts with millions of college kids the world around.

No worries, they are attracting guys - I'm a witness on a few occasions.

But as women they learned that a good pic or 2 or 3 is enough to get male attention and the validation that proves they are still "9s or 10s".

More about validation than connecting.

True that! And both sexes are guilty of this.

Been my experience that no profile - or not even a pic - equates to a BOT with a horrible command of the language. Twice so far in 24hours I was offered their Wyoming cell phone number - while they are supposedly in OH or PA.

Add another thumbs up!

There is a well-known but unofficial experiment done with on the famous hook-up site we all heard of - pretty sure it was in the UK.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=200MxJVyk3I

The gist of it was that the experimenter used pics of a hot male model lifted from the 'net and created a profile where in the hottie admitted to being a convicted child molester with a willing child.

The women swooned over him. of couurse it was the "other" site where hook-ups are expected, so the IQ of the women are certainly in doubt, as would be their own physical looks.

Now who was it on this board that was claiming all men ever want is sex, sex, sex, sex, sex, sex?

Maybe they should post that notion in a 20-something dating forum. She would have been laughed off a forum where anonymity allows gals to honestly reply without fear of slut-shaming or failing to toe the good-girl line.

See also women honestly answer question as to their body counts when anonymity is assured. Pro Tip: They lie more than us guys

But no worries, only men like sex.

Agree Underboss! I get the sense sometimes that some folks on this board haven't been on other OLD sites...

Same here, those wascally women - all they want is sex, sex, sex, sex... None of them ever want to go to gunshows, car parts swap meets, seal the driveway, powerwash the deck...