And let me guess... because you saw it on the Internet, its just GOT to be true....

... thanks for quoting the Doom Daily... will you be quoting the National Enquirer next?

I wouldn't say the "Doom Daily" would be my choice for quote-able credible news agencies... sort of like quoting the Urban Legends found in our e-mail Inboxes... XP

... looks more like a one-sided conspiracy theorist venture to me. Basically a "news joke" Internet web site. Sort of like "The Onion" except the Doomers seem to be taking this stuff way to serious.

When quoting references, consider what would qualify for a college research paper.

Doom Daily would NOT be it...

...and unless you are too ******** to realize... the hyperlink you provided is to an editorial... NOT a news story...

...YIKES !!!!

What an insult to my intelligence. I feel like my brain has been prodded by a hungry hyena.

Exactly why I was running for President in 2008... LOL.

I wrote my own name in... I figured I can do a hell of a lot better than any of these idiots listed.

Dow Jones?

Can we look to the very last month of the Presidency for some reality check about how good their economic plan was for the country?

On December 1st, 2008, the Dow closed at 8,149. Just a few months ago, unemployment here in Detroit, Michigan hit 21% (same Bureau of Labor statistics...)

The 14,000 Dow Jones mark was most likely a couple months into the Bush administration (while he was flying the country's tax dollars to some (cough-cough) well deserved vacation time...again...), right after Clinton allowed the country to scream its way through Y2K and ultra-everything buying. People bought everything from spaghetti to electric generators... and old Wild Bill gloated and claimed it was his genius that boosted the American economy... NOT.

In my lifetime, I don't think we have ever had a true LEADER in the White House.

"We the People..." don't mean anything to those in Congress anymore... the day after election day. We are simply an enslaved people to the tax burden of the bourgeoise elitists in charge.

How many more Harvard and Yale graduates shall we see in Congress and on Capitol Hill before we figure out the ultra-rich are in charge (both Republicans AND Democrats)... and we are but mice in a field of nuclear weapons and "smart" bombs.

Forget the revolution... if they ever point the weapons they have at us, none will survive.

Meanwhile, I'll keep stockpiling ammo when I can get it... and keep buying those USGS Topo maps of the back country.

America, as with all forms of man-made government, will eventually pass away.

We may even see it happen in our lifetime.

Since when is the country actually being led by the President?

Everybody knows the C.I.A. is the actual ruling Party...

... the President is just a powerless, photo-opportunity puppet.



I do recollect a cool quote from the "W" years....

"I had no idea gas was four dollars a gallon"
- George W. Bush

We are in some ways the victims of our culture. In order to stimulate the economy (in one aspect), it is acceptible to advertise the buying of greasy junk food burgers. But if that was all the food you ever ate, it would eventually kill you before your time. The tobacco lobby spends millions a year to whitewash the fact that cigarette smoking causes cancer. In America and the industrialized nations, many things can be bought just for sport or pleasure. But where does a person draw the line for pleasure? Its very easy for an alcoholic to justify the next drink, or even thank God for providing it to him or her.

There is a school of thought that purity is the best option, but few find that path comfortable and a good fit to their existence in the American culture. Where one might abstain from alcohol, or cigarettes, or drugs, or too much food, there is most likely always going to be room for growth. No one has "arrived" even those that claim to have reached some form of spiritual awakeness and might claim they have "more" of God than the next person.

There is a verse that comes to mind... "Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect." (Matthew 5:48) and another... "I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me." (Philippians 4:13)... Folks seem to cop out and hang on to their habits and vices with the plea "no one is perfect"... its sort of like the little choo-choo train who says "Can't"... but through Christ all things are possible.

You can quit smoking... with God's help. Most likely if you've tried to quit, you did it on your own... and failed. I used to smoke 4 packs a day... back when cigs were $1.45 a pack. Eventually I couldn't breathe any more in the morning, late at night I would wake up coughing and hacking my guts out. Finally, in God's mercy, he showed me a way out of that addiction. Folks are so chicken to admit that smoking is an additicion. The truth about smoking is this... the only benefit to smoking is the stimulation you give the tobacco companies on their balance sheet when they do their accounting. It causes cancer, has taken millions of lives, and people can easily justify it is "ok" to inhale the gunk into the temple of the Holy Spirit. It wasn't ok for me, and God helped me out of that predictament.

But I will assure you there are plenty of areas where I need God everyday. I crave and desire a closer walk with my Lord every moment of my life. I know I eat too much, I exercise too little, I could make a list of condemning attributes that would fill volumes at the Library of Congress.

But in spite of all of my weaknesses, all of my vices, all of my human qualities... Jesus loves me with a passionate love. I think that is the greatest thought any human can set their mind on. That we have a Savior that loves us passionately. Then no matter what weakness we struggle with, be it tobacco, drugs, alcohol, gluttony, or any thing anyone can name. Jesus can love us through it all.

There is a concept in the Bible... the story about the five wise and five foolish virgins. See Matthew 25:1-13. Some of the folks in that story were wise enough to be prepared, and some were a bit foolish and unprepared. The foolish ones took their lamps, but didn't take any oil. They weren't prepared. The wise ones took oil for their lamps. They made sure they were prepared.

The last verse of that parable is the kicker...

...v13 - "Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh."

The idea of this passage is to be ever vigilent and ever prepared to meet God. I suggest that everyone have a good prayer about these things. While you are praying, light up a cig and blow some smoke in the Savior's face and see if he likes it. Go ahead and pray while gorging yourself on that meal you know has too many calories. Pray while you are guzzling some beer or chugging down some wine. Paul said to "Pray without ceasing" (1 Thessalonians 5:17). So, how easy is it for you to pray to a Holy God while in the middle of indulging one of your vices?

That ought to show you where you are at with the issue.

Can you be face-to-face with his Holiness, and still do the thing you do? If not, then he can give you the strength to overcome it.

Because that is what He does... help us overcome.

I especially like the Christian Singles portion of the site because I feel all at home when people keep going back and forth on some inane argument that is useless and meaningless...

Ahhh...

Home Sweet Home...

...makes me feel all romantic and such... as if I want to marry whoever argues the most...

... weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Feralcatlady...

...but she doesn't come here anymore...

...so... nobody, I guess...

...never met anyone on here I wanted to stay friends with

oops, double postered

Yes, ... what... just become a homosexual??, end all of this breeding stuff, and be done with it... great answer...

There is yet a final frontier that has not yet been explored/exploited... the deep sea... we've been to the moon, but still have a lot of questions pertaining to what is actually under these oceans...

The reason the world's resources are being depleted so rapidly isn't because people are being born... it is because of industrialization, created an economy based on goods, goods, and more goods... it takes natural resources to make those goods...

Besides... we could breed until there was no food left... and just eat each other, no problem... we could actually become our own food source (minus any ethical considerations of course...) so stopping the breeding isn't the answer... actually... hey, it could be the cure

Well, evidence showed just 7 months ago, when temperatures were 30 below zero wind chill here in Michigan last Feberuary for THREE SOLID WEEKS STRAIGHT that once again... global warming is taking over Michigan...

...not...

But they sure are generating TONS of grant money to the university systems on the topic...

And let's not forget to label it correctly as...

"The THEORY of Global Warming"

It is NOT proven, indesputable scientific fact, such as "The LAW of Gravity."

Global Warming is still... in the scientific world... just a theory...

... howbeit a theory that sells books, generates lot's of college grant monies, and is a great sensational topic for the media circus... not to mention a cool way to place your face out on the political campaigns... let me just mention that a LOT of opportunistic things are going on in happy capitalist America pertaining to the topic... not all of which are legitimate and well-founded... many of which are simply just cashing in on the pandamonium.... much like Y2K... but different... and its lasted longer

Let's not forget to add these realities to the equation when we are all puking on pollution and pondering what to do with the overflow of the landfills.

Industrialzation is the major cause for these rampant pollutants and toxic wastes pouring into our biosystem. Do you like your computer? Then you have added to the pollution problem. How about a cell phone? Got one of those? More waste, more problems.

The human condition in the industrialized nations is one of technology and pleasures at the cost of the environment. The third world countries haven't caught us yet. But with globalization, and the off-shoring of the industrialized work force to the third world, the greedy pleasure-driven industrialized middle-class polluters are coming to these countries fast and furious.

The Basel Action Network http://www.ban.org/ is an awareness group who's purpose is to alert people to the problems with eWaste. Ever take your computer to a nice recycling center, thinking you were doing the planet a favor? Ban.org has discovered that many of these seemingly legit recycling centers are actually selling their used goods by the cargo container load to businesses in third world countries, where there is no EPA and legal policies to protect people... And in these countries, things like CRT computer monitors are being broken open with a sledgehammer so that the worker can harvest the lead inside with their bare hands. Or workers are using toxic acids to recover the gold in computer motherboards and CPUs.

Here's the problem... humankind has become addicted to the pleasures associated with high technology usage. Being able to push a button, talk on a cell phone, e-mail friends on your computer. When just these few technological items hit the dump, they all include toxic substances inside (such as mercury and others).

To gain control of the pollution problem, one must first convince these humans buying the technolgies NOT to buy the technolgies. Or... let's try convincing the tehcnological manufacturers NOT to make or create or engineer any more technology.

Let's just try asking one compnay... let's say... Intel... let's get Intel to stop making computer chips...

Hell will freeze over first (if there is a hell)

It will all most likely end when the planet is in a Mad Max Road Warrior state... remind me to stock up on ammo and gasoline for the event...

You obviously have troubles reading...

instead of popping them on the butts, the modern world is now pumping them full of ritalin and branding (for life, in their conscious and subconscious forever) them as ADHD (aka, later in life will equate to "losers")... as the parents shirk off their parental duties, throw them to strangers in day care, and then wonder why later, little Susie is a crack whore, and little Johnny got shot in a drive by from a rival gang...

Another fine research fact from the article... they waited a whole four years before they tested the kid's IQs, etc again... how much BS is that? I would think they would at least test them when they were teenagers, then again when they were into their 20s, etc....

four years.... hmmmm...

it takes about 5-6 years to get a PhD... so some dude probably needed the grant to finish off his doctorate.... and not all students are "A" students like me... man y who graduate with "degrees" and go into research got "Cs" in several main classes... but they don't tell you that when they offer the study out to the media system... they just need to generate more sensationalism which in turn generates more grant monies.... and if a professor doesn't generate grant money, he loses his job or position in the faculty... if he's on a tenure track, and doesn't earn grants, he might not get tenured at the end of 6 years...

The large paddle with the holes drilled in it for velocity increase was hanging on the principals wall 24/7

...and my dad never thought twice about using his belt on my butt-cheeks... and look at me now... an honor student, a scholar... and one of the brighest human beings to walk the planet

so much for kiddie research...

Oh, I just realized the other cure-all for not popping kids on the butt...

... just pump them full of ritalin and brand them as ADHD...

...then throw them a Nintendo/Wii/X-Box paddle, and go shopping... that's the world's best baby sitter...

...and make sure both mom and dad work... let's add that into the equation... and let's drop Junior off at the day care from the time he is like 6 weeks old... so mommy can go back to work.... because we gotta have that big screen TV to plug the Nintendo/Wii/X-Box into... and the DVD player that plays only soccer movies....

It is obvious the pop culture of today has been brain-washed by the media to choke down and swallow the "don't spank your kids" BS...

... and as far as your terrible explanation of how research goes... it goes like this... there is a population... a sample os taken out of the population to do a study... what I am saying is the sample size they are using is puny compared to the total population of the US or the total population of the world. Therefore, you have to take that into consideration when reading the data from the research findings. I am stating the obvious, that these lefty-wingy types most probably had it in mind they wanted to do a study top prove spanking was bad... they get grant money at universities if they state what they intend to study... they get even more grant money if they actually come up with statistics that justify their existence...

... then they appeal to the fairer of the sexes and pour it on with the Oprah reality shows as if it is an absolute fact...

I believe I could prove they are all full of crap

Then we should outlaw Ice Hockey... because hitting is never necessary... force the world top play soccer instead... yeah, that's it...

Better yet... why not just throw the kid a X-Box controller at age 4 and watch him become a vegetable video game addict?

Yes, but expanding one's knowledge base with skewed, biased research does no one any good, including the children.

and... I just noticed that the study they did only tested this on 1,510 kids. And that the kids were all from Maryland...

now divide 1,510 by the 300 MILLION who live in the U.S.

What percent of the U.S. population is that?

And... now divide 1,510 by the 6 BILLION humans who inhabit this planet ... what percentage is THAT of the total world population.

Their data is severely skewed in favor of what they were trying to prove, that popping a kid on the butt isn't good for them... they call that BIAS in professional research.

Now let's see a research study on the percentage proportional increase in teenage drug use, crime and gang violence since this ridiculous "no corporal punishment" crap has been implemented in the U.S.

And let's compare that to other countries where they still use corporal punishment.

This gives whole new meaning to the phrase "smart a$$"

So, if a set of buttcheeks is struck, the brain is diminished... what BS....

Is that why God had the scripture writer write

"He who spareth the rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him correcteth him betimes" (Proverbs 13:24)

and

"Withhold not correction from a child: for if thou strike him with the rod, he shall not die. Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and deliver his soul from hell." (Proverbs 23:13-14)