nothing wrong with being a faceless creep.
of course, if it bothers you THAT much...

...feel free to inbox me some of your favorite pics.
then, inbox me some of MY favorite pics.

I'm training someone who has no common sense

Other wise fine!

Gotta get back to work, have a lovely day

well don't log out! then you won't hafta travels so far all the time

No worries. I do understand your concerns

Lol cool. We say "knock yourself out "as meaning do what you like
You carry on, why should you bow down to anyone!

YOU are fun with or without a picture Bailey it’s great to have you here in the forums

Good afternoon Bailey

Are we that bad, that you don't want to date here? Or is your workmate a dork?

Gosh Bailey that made my day imagining you doing it and trying to spell . I would do it in front of a mirror and die laughing coz I wont be able to figure out the vowels and consonants. The only thing I’m sure of is the exclamation in the end lol. Thanks for making me laugh

I think for the most part universal definitions and identifiers that everyone could/will agree to and be able to spot, in regards to chivalry and romance, are "dead," in general, as indicators of romance and chivalry.

Or I don't believe people respond to the same universal signals/rituals as they did when they had historic context contributing to meaning and value.

I think current rituals/signals of romance/chivalry are more individually defined and are more subjective to the individual relationship. IOW far more reliant on learning to communicate and establish relationship culture rather than being able to rely on socially defined universal standards imposed by community standards.

Just different times and different standards regarding things.
Like flowers. They're sweet and nice. Or maybe you see them as helping to subsidize Colombia. Or horrible environmentally or socially irresponsible taking up farmland.
If someone brings them to you on a first date do you think "wow! He must have a lot of disposable income! Plus he bought red ones, they were arranged a certain way, and a certain number! Now I know his intentions! And he had to go out of his way to find someone that cultivates this plant since most people don't as it's a luxury and hard to find!"

Or compare it to the birth of children. Do you think parents look at their little kids the same today as "back then" when on average the last five babies in the community were stillborn, possibly killed the mother, there were no cures for what we see as common maladies, and there may be no doctor or hospital either in existence or for thousands of miles? That stress and fear of knowing how dangerous childbirth was in general?
Do you really think you could see your kid the same way?
What about "back then" the difference in value between a male and female child?

Traditionally understood/perceived/valued "romance" and "chivalry" are dead.
There are new brands.
Understanding the new brands requires effort and they don't come in easy to communicate universal rituals. Like "opening the door for a lady."



Personally, I would disagree.
IMO if you want romance you have to learn to communicate. That includes paying attention and thinking.
People communicate their emotions and feelings.
The onus is on you to figure out how they're doing it.
Most people focus on trying to make it easy for the other to understand, falling back on what they believe are universal methods of communication. e.g. flowers, poetry, presents, affirmations, tender intimacy like holding hands, kissing, or whatever.

But IMO most of that is usually as a response. IMO/IME most of that is BS. There's a kernel of emotional truth wrapped up in a boxing glove of "romance" to make sure the other person gets a message.
Exacerbation, hyperbole.
The "romance" is figuring out why they feel that way, what triggered them feeling that way, and what triggers their response, leading to their "romantic" gesture/communication.

Everyone is romantic in their own way IMO.
That's what comes from the push for diversity, multiculturalism, and individualism.
Can't rely on universal gestures. You have to look deeper. The universal gestures are just the crutch they're using possibly because you aren't looking deeper.
If you want romance, learn to pay attention, not just look for them to fulfill what you think you understand "romance" to be.

If all you look for are traditional gestures, that have surface meaning, but have lost the traditional cultural relevance and context, IOW shallow, then ultimately that's the type of relationship and "romance" you will receive.
People do what works. If that's what you're responding to, that's what you'll be offered, only without the kernel of emotional truth it's wrapped in, it will simply become a gesture to push a response button.


I kinda do.
But to me it's kinda like saying "those who open the door for others go through last."
It doesn't mean much, especially since it's not a race and really there are plenty of women. Billions of them. All over the place.
In my head I think of a formula 1 race in Italy.
The nice guy obeys the speed limit, lets all the other cars pass, and takes in the sights on a Sunday drive. Maybe stops for gelato. I'd rather hear his stories about what he saw and did than the guy going 200 mph to hurry up to the finish line and get the trophy.
That's just me. But I'm kinda slow.



To the nice guy, the lady comes first?

Wow. Sitting in the dark talking to myself while she grabs the happy meal and runs out the back door. Yup that sounds like the useual.

I believe the Universal consensus states that that's non-existent!

Don't you just love the either or questions?

Or offer to give a catburger to whomever contacts you.
That is how we used to do it on planet Melmac.

Sigh! I miss my home world. Why did it have to blow up?

It varies, some days you get a little and other days you get a lot more. If you view their profile or send them a nudge, they are more likely to message you as well.

Most here would agree that your best chances of meeting someone genuine is in the forums. But with you being where you are, some from the dating side that contact you might turn out to be genuine.

A candle, turning down the lights, ear whispering? Sounds like a lot of work and a long list. Think i will stick with internet dateing.

I was thinking on all the types of Romantics!!!