Your welcome Grandpa! Have ya got to hold that baby yet?

Boy Glen, not sure of the Quallah thing, all I know is when visiting Red
Clay and the Museum I speak of...it was written that there was only one
acre in Tennessee legally held by the Cherokee..I know there are no
health facilities in Tennessee for the Cherokee...as I had to go to NC
to obtain medical help...

Hey Grandpa!!! Congratulations!!!

Ok Glen! Your right...I should have said the Cherokee women were
peaceful...a matriarchal society at one time...worked rather well....but
all good things must come to an end when the physically stronger of the
race decide to take over
As far as taking the right to vote from women...pretty obvious isn't it?
Feeling the need to adapt to new governmental policy to get along...Of
course with men at the helm
No they were far from being immune to politics unfortunately...
And looking at the other side of my family...my mothers side..her
parents 100% Cherokee...you can see that it was apparent that blacks
were integrated in alot of cases into the Cherokee tribes...

Your friend is correct...A major portion of Tennessee was Cherokee
land...Today...there is only one acre owned by the Cherokee...On it sits
a Museum...dedicated to many of the Cherokee that were important in our
history...you can walk out back down a trail...at the end of that trail
is a mound..in that mound are bodies that were moved from gravesites,
from when they built a dam in the 70's I believe, which put all the
Cherokee villages under water...
Yes...the tenacity is great

I understand what you are saying Glen...how much of California history
do you know?
And how long did it take for the Renegade Cherokees to be able to come
out of hiding in those hills that you hike in?
Of course it is not the same in that sense....
But with that being said, does so much hatred and anger have to surround
such an issue?
And bashing a culture that is not the same as ours. I am not saying that
it is you who does that...but it is apparent in others...
I could be angry...but am not...I don't even think my Grandmother
was....she was just sad that human nature has to be like this...
I understand the fear that goes along with all of this...fear of money
lost..fear of the ones that commit crime...yes I understand...fear that
they are stealing jobs...
But I also believe.. fear is the only thing that keeps us from doing
anything....
I have always said...I do not know what the answer is...but only hope
that it can be a peaceful solution, without so much fear and hatred
involved...

Thanks Glen...actually the Cherokees, I'm sure you know were pretty much
a peaceful people...farmers...
I think that since so many were lost on the trail of tears, by the time
they made it to Oklahoma...alot of their piss and vinegar...somewhat
lost..
I mean think about it...You are taken from your land...told to
move...carry what you can of your belongings...deal with it...
Thinking that would have upended me too...
Have you ever been to Red Clay? Down by Georgia...a must see...

Hey Lovely Good to see you

Glen...and you know them to be a good people...yes they are an important
part of history....that had many things done to them .."legally"...but
was it right?

When I post in these threads...I do not speak of legality..as you can
see where my views are born...
Will we continue to repeat history all in the name of legality?

Or is it as some have pointed out racism? Some admitting...some
not...Some very apparent in their views...

We can cry legality all day long...But....these are living , breathing
human beings

Glen here is a painting done of her that is in the museum in Benton
county

Fanta Oh yeah...I know about it all...

Yes Fanta, have been there....I went back there in 2003...did alot of
research to put a familiy book together...Spent 3 months there

http://www.msnbc.com/modules/women_politics/default.htm

Click on that...skip the intro...and then hit journey into the
past...Nancy Ward...the first one...1775...There is lots of information
on her...google it...

She is my Grandmother 9 generations ago, I am registered through the
Cherokee nation beginning with her...
And I do have complete awareness Of Jackson
Thanks Glen

I know Jax...it sucks...broke my Grandmothers heart...

Hi Kid

Thanks TLW of the mention of my ancestors....course that really doesn't
count....they were made to leave their homes....sent them to
Oklahoma...after breaking many treaties...Love Ya Pres Jackson....and
even into the 1970's this went on...when they found lots of great
minerals on my grandmothers acreage on the reservation in
Oklahoma...they took that too! Oh but that doesn't count And it
was all done legally YAY America!

Don't think you really have to put it on your resume....As it's quite
apparent....Gotta leave this thread...can't stomach it

Hey Jax!!! Your right...It is illegal

TLW...would actually prefer to teach the Tango or Salsa!

Tue 06/26/07 06:29 PM
That is a blantantly ignorant statement

This was mean't for gardenforge

That is a blantantly ignorant statement

Yes I think so There is nothing American here!
Whether it be north or south

No your not lost But I think I am!!!