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Wed 06/17/09 09:51 PM
That was obviously a clerical mistake and yes your not the first and I doubt you'll be the last to point that out. The actually paper was spell checked and got me an A just so were clear. lol

First thing I'd look at in this paper:

Did you spell "sociology" correctly?

Trusting that you submitted it more than nine minutes before the deadline, I'd shoot it back to you so you could at least make that correction. But you might want to spell check the whole thing just in case.

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Wed 06/17/09 07:44 PM
In terms of businesses large and small having a hand in the illegal imigration problem,I would agree with you infact I mentioned it in my article, but thats ok, my main concern as to the illegal imigration is people inablity to see that illegal imigration and sweat shops are in fact the same issue, how can sensible people have conflicting view points when concerning the same issue and illegal imigration and sweet shops are essentually the same thing, and if your for one you should be for the other, if your against one you should be against the other. Also I would have to respectfully disagree the problem can be fix as a matter of fact had we never gotten rid of the bisero program in the first place, which was a good program illegal immigration would not be a problem today, the mexican amercian labor union felt at the time that mexicans where taking jobs away from mexican americans which was the case because businesses even then could hire immigrants under the program at a cheaper rate then the mexican americans but in stead of getting reed of the program they should have implimented some guidlines so that mexican americans at the time could compete for those jobs especially if business couldn't hire mexicans at a cheaper salary becouse when they stopped the program yes it was great for mexican americans for a time but a generation or so later they couldn't replensh that labor force because mexican americans were geting better educations and better jobs and they didn't need to work in the fields, because they were now able to compete for higher paying jobs. The sweat shop practices that have been allowed to continue out of some liberal false sense of compassion is in effect a new form of Slavery and should not be allowed to continue, you can end those practices by extending the visa programs, by bring back a program similar to the bracero program but until then enforce the laws already in place, it is not only the right thing to do its the law, as for polititians lining their pockets well we have a president who is of the Chicago machine and he is the apidemy of what it means to be a polititian today. So thats nothing new but if people are informed and start getting angry about it, calling their congress men demanding that the borders be secured,by rising up, maybe then the problems well be addressed and fixed in the ways I have mentioned in some of my other posts.



You should watch a movie called "Fast Food Nation". It is also a great book to read.

It shows how the coyotes smuggle illegal immigrants into the country and then are left in a motel to wait. They are not to go anywhere but wait. From there they go in a van and straight to a manufacturing plant. They are then to work there for 14 hours a day pulling out cow guts for a living. They then get 50 dollars for that day in cash, which is alot more then what they would get in there country.

Now the hamburgers you eat at Mcdonalds, Burger King, or Wendy's is from those illegal immigrants.

Yes big corporations employ those illegal immigrants.

Now why aren't they getting punished for this illegal activity you may ask.

Well because big corporations have so much money they can influence our politicians to bypass certain laws or oversee such problems.

Bribing? Well isn't that illegal and not allowed.

Of course the government and its cronies will tell you it is illegal and that whoever does it will get severely punished and lose their job, but do you actually think any of those politicians will say openly they accepted a bribe?

No one knows. So the Senators son will be suddenly a acting CEO for a major corporation earning 150,000 a year. Another type of bribe.

If the US wanted to stop illegal border control do you think they couldn't if they wanted to. Do you actually think politicians haven't thought of a way to stop illegal immigration. They know how to stop it if they WANTED to, but they won't. Why because it isn't profitable in their personal pockets and for the country.


Also because there aren't enough Americans who are willing to do these hard labored jobs. I am not saying all of them. There are a few who would, but not enough.

Second the whole social security problem is also a problem.

Why?

Well there isn't enough money going into it to help all those who are eligible to get somekind of money.

US needs a young work force that is willing to work for pennies.

When they can't find it they turn to poor countries. Legal immigrants will not work for pennies. They will collect on welfare instead. Illegal immigrants will work for pennies for they can't collect on welfare.


If America wants to stop illegal immigration then they first need to fix its economic problems and infrastructure before even attempting.

Yet how with 11 trillion dollars in debt and rising?

How if your countries defense budget outweighs anything else put in on taxes into the country?

Major changes by the people would have to be done and not in a nice way. Major sacrifices would have to occur by the people and with the attitude this country has I don't think it will be done either.

The government has the people right where they want them unfortunately.

Stopping Americans from going to Mexico will do very little difference for this country to tell you the truth.

The illegal immigrants send so much money back to their country for their families anyway.

Although I admire you for your attempts, but you need to take a bigger picture on this whole ordeal to help this country.






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Wed 06/17/09 12:10 PM
First of all there is a huge difference between legal and illegal immigration, second Americans are welling to do those jobs its called paying them what they are worth, wouldn't you agree that paying someone less then minimum wage is what many of you liberals have refered to as slave wages, so if you support paying slave wages to illegal immigrants, aren't you in affect supporting slavery, especailly when these people also don't have medical insurance or dental and what medical is provided to them is paid with your tax dollars, through emergency rooms, dont you think an extention of the current visa programs or to bring back some form of the Bracero program, which worked by the way would be a better alternative then to just let them come and stay here and milk the system costing tax payers billions of dollars, in the health care system alone, not to mention all the money being spent to take care of the needs of those anchor babies, I have no problem with immgrants coming here through the system and working and becoming productive members of society because that is the epitome of the American dream to come here from from all walks of life, to make a better life for yourself and your families. Also it is amazing to me how many of you who seem open to the idea of illegal immigration turn around have conflicting views when concerning sweet shops when in reality they are the same thing. Want some comparisons well lets see:
This is something else I wrote recently so I may be repeatind a few of my points but what the hell right:

I think most Americans would agree that Sweetshops are wrong for America and for good reason after all these people, live in deplorable conditions, they are paid under the table, their paid less then minimum wage, liberals have even been quoted as saying that paying these people less then minimum wage is the equivalent of paying someone slave wages. After all, these people aren’t being paid what their worth. Also, they don’t get health insurance or dental insurance, and the only health care provided for them is the ones paid for by the taxpayers of America through emergency rooms and that should not be the case. These people live in the shadows and fear deportation. Despite the deplorable conditions after-all in many cases its still better then the alternative at least in the way they see it. So these are all good reason for not supporting businesses that engage in such business practices.

But now lets look at illegal immigration, these people live in deplorable conditions, they are paid under the table, their paid less then minimum wage, After all, these people aren’t being paid what their worth. Also, they don’t get health insurance or dental insurance, and the only health care provided for them is the ones paid for by the taxpayers of America through emergency rooms and that should not be the case. These people live in the shadows and fear deportation. Despite the deplorable conditions after-all, in many cases its still better then the alternative at least in the way they see it. So these are all good reason for not supporting businesses that engage in such business practices. After all people, when it comes down to it illegal immigration is just another word for sweetshop and if you are against one and for the other your inconsistent in your think. Liberals who engage in, their readeric without respect to the rule of law and the federal laws being broken when these people come here illegally and these business who hire and house them, should at least consider the hypocrisy of condemning one form of slavery while, supporting the other.

If anything you should at least consider the conditions at which these people risk to get here, in some cases even selling themselves in order to get here to some coyote or what ever it is these people call themselves who get them illegally across the boarder some of which are as young as 11 years old. The truth is, if we brought back the brocero program or at least something similar to it, close the borders and require that all illegal immigrants be deported and then brought back though a working system, it would put an end to this on going slave trade. To say there is a need for these illegal immigrants without looking at the consequences of ignoring the rule of law, or at least changing the law to fit the needs of the nation, is wrong for America. Besides the truth of the matter is many Americans would do those jobs provided they got paid minimum wage or more, along with health benefits and to say other wise is a bit disingenuous to say the least. Also, others of you would say its would drive the cost of food up. Initially, that could very well be the case, but in a driven economy eventually the laws of supply and demand well bring cost back down and we won’t have to sacrifice our ethics, just to keep the cost of strawberries down.




If Americans are willing to clean the streets, work for the city such as trash and recycling, construction, repairing, sewage then maybe such a opinion can be validated, yet I haven't seen any Americans willing to work for 50 dollars for 12 hours a day pulling out pig guts?

Will you be ready to work at fast food restaurants, drive thrus, clean offices, paint, clean buildings in general, gardening?

Will you be ready to work at a manufactory pulling guts out of cows, pigs or any other food product on a assembly line?

Will you go out in the field and pick fruits and vegetables?

Will you do all those jobs that the Mexicans are doing now?

Yes I wish you would put in such a law right away punishing Mexicans and the illegal immigrants. Send them home right now! You know what will happen if such a task force would do this? You will see how fast the stores will be empty and how fast grocery stores will lack goods. How there will be no service!

How dirty your offices will be?

Go ahead send them all home right now!

Just maybe you will understand that these immigrants are working their asses off for you guys.

Should immigration laws be enforced.

Of course, but you won't have it done because the government doesn't enforce laws onto the people like you think they should be. The government is bought and owned by the corporations even if you don't want to admit it.

And the corporations main work force are immigrants.

So until you can find some Americans who will work for 50 or 60 bucks for a 14 hour shift per day pulling guts out of cows then I would stop complaining about the Mexicans.

Good luck on trying to influence the government otherwise. They are just playing a cat and mouse game with you folks. drinker

So Americans if you want to go to Mexico for vacation then do so. You are actually helping the economy in that country by spending your money over there if you think about it, which enables Mexicans to work in their country.

This is like a good episode of Raymond who is in this situation the government and where he has to try to please his wife (complainer) who doesn't care much for his family and at the same time pleases his Italian American family (immigrant) that are always there every second of the day.

The government will always try to find a median in cooperating both with the corporation and the people. In the end it looks like a stalemate with no true solution.



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Tue 06/16/09 03:44 PM
Especially with someone like Obama as president, right the man is ill-equipped and unqualified to be president and his socialistic policies well bankrupt this country. Oh and I doubt we well ever migrate to Mexico it’s a ****ty country. Why else would so many of them try to come over here to the U.S.

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Tue 06/16/09 10:00 AM
Tell me if you agree with it or disagree and why?

This was the article I based my short essay on:

Boycott Mexico campaign targets illegal immigration issue
11:17 AM, March 18, 2009

The large bold letters scream, "BOYCOTT MEXICO!!'' and are followed by the plea, "Do not give your tourist dollars to Mexico! Spend them in the beautiful American Southwest!"
The Boycott Mexico campaign, by a group called Americans United to Halt Tourism in Mexico, is the last thing tourist destinations in Baja California and elsewhere in Mexico need, as they struggle with an image problem caused by an unrelenting drug war.
Campaign volunteers have been passing out fliers at the U.S.-Mexico border at San Ysidro and other points of entry. The group wants tourists to stop traveling into Mexico until the Mexican government complies with several demands related to the immigration issue.
"The AUHTM Campaign is designed to allow the American people to confront the Mexican people directly on these issues," it says on a campaign link. "The incompetence of the White House and U.S. Congress to do their jobs in this area is well known and leaves concerned and well-informed Americans few alternatives."
Reaction: This smacks of racism, and people in this country are free to travel wherever they wish. This campaign, which is requesting concerned citizens to print and distribute fliers and organize demonstrations, can only hurt businesses that have nothing to do with the illegal immigration issue and, in fact, employ Mexicans in Mexico.
But because it's a free country, those behind AUHTM, who obviously are frustrated and concerned about what they perceive as a major problem, are within their rights to call for a boycott.
As for the American Southwest, it is beautiful. But last time I checked you cannot catch a marlin there. Nor can you kayak with whales or scuba dive with giant Pacific mantas.
--Pete Thomas
Photo: Hectic scene at U.S.-Mexico border. Credit: Associated Press

This is my essay:

Boycott Mexico campaign targets illegal immigration issue

Although this article is only the latest, in a long line of issues surrounding the overall issue of sweat shops and sweat shop practices, it serves as a reminder to us all, of the on going need for action, from a local, state and federal government choosing instead to, invoke a policy of inaction, choosing to do nothing about the on going problems surrounding the complex issue that is illegal immigration. Many programs/incentives exist today that even encourage the act of violating federal laws.
The truth is there really isn’t a need to complicate an already strident issue in the eyes of most Americans regardless of what side you may be on this issue. But the fact remains that, the laws already in place would serve to effectively mitigate the problem if the local, state and federal government would only enforce those laws, but the truth is they have instead chosen to ignore and in some cases advocate a policy of non-action, in reaction to the on going socioeconomic plight of people coming from nations who haven’t served the needs of its people since their conception.
Mexico, only being one of many such nations; unwilling or unable to fix the corruption from within, electing people who serve only their own interest instead of serving the people, who voted them in office. Why else would Mexico continue indorse and advocate for policies that have enslaved its people through sweat shop like conditions, politicians in the U.S condone such conditions saying it is out of compassion that we as a nation allow for the continuation of such a failed policy as is the immigration program and the mishandling of illegally ran businesses and business practices, as are all sweat shops.

As for the article it mainly focuses on the actions of an organization referred to as AUHTM (Americans United to Halt Tourism in Mexico) This group wants tourist to stop traveling to Mexico until the Mexican government complies with several demands related to immigration issues. The Author seemingly believes that the efforts made by this organization can only serve to hurt tourism for destinations along the U.S-Mexican borders like Baja California and else where in Mexico, as well as their image, an image already struggling due to an unrelenting drug war.

The Author makes no qualms about expressing his opinion and refers to the campaign as racist, or in his words “Smacks of racism”. Saying it only hurts businesses that have nothing to do with the illegal immigration issue and in fact employs Mexicans in Mexico. The truth is, although I can see his point in terms of some of the driving influences for businesses in America in their efforts to dissuade markets/consumers from going over the border, I tire of the old argument that the underlining force driving the grass roots efforts of the members of this organization or any other organization seeking to stabilize the borders is racism.

The truth is there is an on going battle between state and federal enforcement of immigration laws. The same kind of battle that has been going on since this Country was first being formed. For example states claim illegal immigration should be handled at the federal level and in many cases choose to look the other way, our cities (sanctuary cities) are overrun with policies and programs paid for by the tax payers of this nation, that are no longer designed to better acclimate incoming immigrants to the American way of life and instead focuses on accommodating their own cultural nuances, its no wonder this nation is seemingly more and more divided especially when there is a lack of communication due to the fact that neighbors might not even speak the same language.
Further more, many condone such practices due to a need to fill jobs that many Americans will not do while that can be easily corrected by the enforcement of current laws as well as the reimplementation of and old program that was halted due to the demands of the Mexican American Labor force of the 50’s and 60’s a program that should have never been halted and instead revised so that employers would have to hire immigrants at the same basic minimum wage rates as the Mexican Americans at the time. But instead they choose to end that program with no way of replenishing that work force a generation later when the Mexican Americans started getting diplomas and degrees, there by competing for jobs in the middle class to upper middle class wage bracket and no longer needing to work in the fields.
Finally, his views and implied accusations of racism, is an indication as to what has gone wrong with the media in general why not win your arguments on the forum of ideas why must the media continue to belittle apposing view points with accusation of racial inferences. Truly it is on the forum of ideas that one can change and influence those who we would other wise disagree.
It is an old childhood tactic to resort to name calling to force others to agree with you. But, that is a tactic that has worked for the media and will continue to work for them until people tire of their intellectually debilitating approach to covering the news, but as long as people allow accusations of racism, to quiet them into submission in the forum of ideas and force them to focus on things not relating to the underlined issues, then those issues will not be solved and will only continue.





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Mon 06/15/09 07:52 PM
they are not talking about mutual customary greetings between citizens, they are refering to customary greetings between world leaders and If Bush had made a simular mistake, every liberal and their mothers would be calling Bush stupid, or arrogant but not the great Messiah Obama, his mistakes and there have been plenty, the media just ignores, after all he is one of them. For example have you ever heard him speak without a prompter he doesn't sound all that articulate when he is off script if he was Bush the media would have used clips of those speeches to make the man sound stupid, or how about during the election when he misspoke about one of the middle eastern countries, and was given a pass but when Palin was given the same foreign policy question, which to be fare as an I got u question. The media harped on her lack of foreign policy experience. Or when he made statement after statement about 95% of the American people getting a tax cut under his plan when 40% of them don't earn enough to pay taxes in the first place, so obviously that would essentually be a welfare check so why did he get away with that lie,also the irresponsible liberal media refused to ask for specifics and instead just repeated his general statements concerning foreign and domestic policies for example why was he not ever asked how he planed on paying for it, with out raising inflation or raising taxes on the middle class (which he has by the way thanks to his stimulas plan with 9,000 different earmarks, as well as his approval of raising taxes like the national gas tax, national sales tax and the death tax all of which affect the middle class and when by the way is the liberal media going to hold him responsible for unemployment going to 9% when he promised it would be much lower with the passing of the stimulas bill and by the way what of Wontonomo bay isn't it funny that not one blow heart liberal volunteered their district, not one socialistic country volunteered their country to house those supposed victoms of American injustice. What of it,if their so harmless why the hesitation to volunteer the areas they represent, so that they can be given their day in court provided of course that these prisoner of war are read their miranda rights by soldiers when they are captured another bright idea from the Great Messiah President Obama

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Mon 06/15/09 03:52 PM

add a few more pics and alitle more about yourself and your good.

Thanks for the info

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Mon 06/15/09 03:51 PM
Thank you

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Mon 06/15/09 09:19 AM
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Mon 06/15/09 09:01 AM
engaged in rhetorically simplistic chatter