Edited by
Alverdine
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Fri 04/03/09 04:44 PM
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As the father has ruled for a time. Perhaps it is time for the mother to be acsendent. Or returned....... Right...I think returned is MUCH more accurate. |
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A new day for U.S. atheists?
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Mirror's Great Awakening is a big part of it yet I disagree with some of what I read about that. They were trying to claim that the "First Awakening" was responsible for the revolutionary war. Doubtful. Christianity and its morality would have been in direct conflict with what the men who initiated that process (high treason) believed was important at the time.
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Edited by
Alverdine
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Fri 04/03/09 04:17 PM
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This is one of those questions that always conjures up images of the parents that wish on the monkey's paw to bring their son back after he was brutally killed in a "mill accident." Of course they forgot to specify that he be restored to how he looked PRIOR to the accident.
I dont know who I would want to bring back because anyone I choose is bound to cause a problem. So I will stick with no one, not no how. |
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invigorating
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Soul - Jarring
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Im not really certain but probably for the reasons you listed. People can be gullible and times of trauma and emotional despair and weakness can leave them much more vulnerable to suggestion. Take some shouting, stomping, rolling on the floor religion, mix it with Jim Jones' and right there you have all the elements needed for disaster. Some Christians would see another ingredient in the mix, Satan. And Pentecostalists would have a special reason for being offended I imagine.
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The declaration that religious faith shall be unpunished does not give immunity to criminal acts dictated by religious error.
Thats a very important one right there. |
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The Future of Religion
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Yeah, I dont think he was literally the son of Jesus. For one thing I think Barabbas was older but not certain on that. Anyway, sorry to hijack, I just thought that was a little bit interesting.
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The Future of Religion
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Or what if they accidentally crucified Barabbas and not Jesus of Nazareth? Okay never mind. That would have been brilliant.
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The Future of Religion
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Yeah. Im pretty sure the bible indicates that Barabbas was a prisoner at the same time Jesus was also incarcerated and that the people wanted Barabbas released instead because he promised to buy a lot of alcohol. Its not like we had Maury Povich there at the time running DNA tests for paternity. Now that is what I would have done myself. Promise alot of drinks and good food to have my ass saved from being nailed on wood Thats what I would have done also. I would have lied and said whatever I had to more than likely. Crucifixion was a bad way to go, no doubt. I wont sit here and lie about that. Quite possibly they were the same individual. Jesus Christ and Jesus Barabbas were one and the same person. The Jews wanted the real Jesus released, but the Romans crucified him anyway. |
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The Future of Religion
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Yeah. Im pretty sure the bible indicates that Barabbas was a prisoner at the same time Jesus was also incarcerated and that the people wanted Barabbas released instead because he promised to buy a lot of alcohol. Its not like we had Maury Povich there at the time running DNA tests for paternity.
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The Future of Religion
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Hmm. Well its hard to know. Maybe its not intended to be taken literally that he was actually the biological father of Barabbas but I definitely feel that he had children by Mary Magdalene either in or out of wedlock.
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The Future of Religion
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Furthermore, rabbis were expected, as a matter of course, to marry and have children. If Jesus was a rabbi, it would have been very unusual for him to remain childless.
Well this would certainly lend more credence to the fact that he married Mary Magdalene and had children by her. Of course you wont get a lot of support from most Christians on that theory. |
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Topic:
The Future of Religion
Edited by
Alverdine
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Fri 04/03/09 06:18 AM
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Yeah I have never heard that before and I pulled this from Wiki.
This article is about the biblical character Barabbas. "Give us Barabbas!", from The Bible and its Story Taught by One Thousand Picture Lessons, 1910 In the Christian narrative of the Passion of Jesus, Barabbas, according to about five of the thousands of Greek texts Jesus bar-Abbas, "son of the father", was the insurrectionary whom Pontius Pilate freed at the Passover feast in Jerusalem. It depends if you are interpreting the story literally or not and that is often argued by Evangelical Christians. If you take it literally, then Barabbus was a prisoner at the same time as Jesus so could hardly have been his son. I dont take any of this literally of course and just view it as parables and stories. I just found that statement to be confusing is all. |
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Humanism
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I agree. I have recently been exploring Humanism as a philosophy and way of life and it makes a great deal of practical sense. It also is somewhat of a threat to organized religion. Kurt Vonnegut, the famous novelist was an Atheist and a Humanist up until the point that he died. Vonnegut was descended from a family of German freethinkers, who were skeptical of "conventional religious beliefs". He had this to say about it which has stuck with me in its powerful impact time and time again. “I am a humanist,” he said, “which means, in part, that I have tried to behave decently without expectations of rewards or punishment after I am dead.” Vonnegut is one of my favorite authors. "All persons, living and dead, are purely coincidental." Yep me to. "Slaughterhouse Five" and "Cat's Cradle" were a couple favorites. He was so modest. He never considered himself a worthwhile writer. Brilliant man he was. That is one of the things I most admired about his writing. He never took himself too seriously. Yeah, even Slaughterhouse-Five had sort of a dry, humorous wit to it. Like in the face of something so horrible all you can do is laugh. Did you ever see the film adaptation of it? They handled the Allied bombing of Dresden in an interesting manner. |
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The Future of Religion
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Was Jesus ever married? Probably not, but some people believe that he married Mary Magdalene and had a son named Bar-Abbas. Smiless, Im a little confused on this one. Yes I tend to believe that he did indeed wed Mary Magdalene. At least I feel that is plausible and he did have children or a child by her before his alleged death but Barabbas? Are we talking about the same Barabbas as the one that the people called for his release instead of Jesus? Im not really sure I am following you? |
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Topic:
The Future of Religion
Edited by
Alverdine
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Thu 04/02/09 01:33 PM
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Didn't Gardner plagarise Crowley and organize the Wiccan movement in the early 1900's?
Well thats the very reason that I placed "founding" in parenthesis. The spirituality known as Wicca came into being much later of course. However, its roots are nonetheless based in early spiritual reverence of a god/goddess. I found this on religioustolerance.net which is a good site out of Canada. "Wicca is a religion based, in part, on ancient, northern European Pagan beliefs in a fertility Goddess and her consort, a horned God. Although the religion is a modern creation, some of its sources pre-date the Christian era by many centuries. Most Wiccans do not believe that their religion is a direct, continuous descendent of this earlier religion. They see it as a modern reconstruction." Now compare that with 2000 years? You are probably looking easily at the Paleolithic. |
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