Ya'll are just crackin me up.

Amen and Praise The Lord

God exists and she is single and is looking desperate to a nice looking male God. She doesn't like allah as Allah wears a beard.

No Joke, he or she doesn't exist. we are here as long we realise this. As soon as it ends, then it is the final end;

I'm a big fan of Neil DeGrasse Tyson, and have watched his viewpoints towards what was once labelled God... now has a proper definition to it.

what's interesting about his explanation of Newton and Gravity with God, is he assumes he is properly speaking from Newton's point of view.

if Neil were to take on Einstein's viewpoint of God by the connection, relativity, and the Harmony of how the entire Universe works like an internal creator, supplier of all its needs...
...Neil would understand that he is not eliminating the idea of God, but he is confirming the I.D. of God.

DNA made big leaps in that specific area of study.

from bacteria to the furthest point in our ever continual growing Universe, we are all related, connected, a part of its Harmony, all by the Design of God!!

I know the over 700 names applied to the Hebrew Deity, I know people who were rulers in the Ancient Days were called gods, I understand every point you are attempting to make, but none of it relates to what God is telling Moses...

God isn't telling Moses anything because she does not exist! It's all in your mind, not in reality. I'm interested only in reality and have no time to imagine mythical fantasies.

since you were the one that brought the Greeks into the discussion then you're clearly aware that the Greeks had they own Elohim ..Zeus Hera Poseidon etc.

...therefore what the Hebrew Elohim was trying to express to Moses was that he was the Elohim of Abraham and wasn't any of those Greek's Elohim ..in a sense that he wasn't Zeus ..which is why he also warn his followers not to place any other Elohim above him because he is a Jealous Elohim

Elohim is only the "Descriptive Title" and there are many Elohim, but Yahweh is the personal name of the "Hebrew-Judaeo-Christian" Elohim ....so the question becomes why do you guys have such a phobia with calling the guy by his personal name "Yahweh"

....because not doing so is not only being misleading, deceptive and intentionally mistranslating the Hebrew Bible ..but these transgressions against Yahweh is placing you guys on "The Yahweh To Hell"

you're on the Yahweh to Hell...Yahaw to Hell ...you're all on the Yahweh to Hellllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll

Sooo, emphasis on the ooo.
How do I name my God which actually has no name?
"Doofus"
My God is Doofus.
What, ya don't like that?
"Clem"
My God is Clem.
What ya don't like that either?
Hang on, "Modoralitoria"
My God is Modoralitori.
Oh wait, that isn't right for you.
"OddaPa"
My God is OddaPa.

Point is, we all know the god in which we believe and it doesn't matter who else shares that belief if it is truly our God.
We all get what we need from our belief in our God.
It doesn't matter its name or the details of the belief, all that matters is if we get what we need from it.

Call your God anything you want.
You don't need to prove your God to me, you only need to prove your God to yourself.

That should be true for all believers but sadly there are some who get very particular about their own name and as we have seen get very worked about about the fact that different names exist for the same thing - and of course that their name is the only 'correct' name. As if there were not far more important things in life.

In the USA you call your vehicle an 'auto' short for automobile. In the UK we call the same thing by a different name - a 'car' short for carrriage. I've never seen anyone anywhere try to argue that one of those names is 'correct' and the other 'wrong'. Everyone accepts that the same thing has different names for different people.

I think Tom is saying that this should also be true for the God you believe in. Never mind what name you choose to use, the topic for this thread asks if there IS a God, or is NOT. So far we have discovered that some say yes and some say no and some waste vast amounts of time arguing off-topic about the correct name for this phenomenon.

I like 'Doofus' it's good. Better than the shop front I saw the other day which had the name, "The Redeemed Church Of God, Holy Ghost Zone". Do they REALLY believe that ANYONE will take that seriously?

For a man who believes God does not exist but have nothing to back up your belief, you spend a lot of time denigrating people who believe something other than you do.Do you not have more important things in your life ? or is it your goal in life to set people straight about how they should think ? You call yourself a gentleman,I see very little evidence of gentlemanly behaviour in your posts.Whereas people may use different terms to describe a mode of transport,they do not call a Ford a Volskwagon or a Mazda a Toyota,nor does someone whose name is James like to be called Arthur.

There are so many Gods depending on which organised religion one follows.So the question comes is which God is representative to all? Also is God a man or woman?

you went to the desert on a God with no name it felt good to be out of the shame


if the God is Doofus imagine what the followers are


that type of proof requires believers to commit suicide


yep come on to the good old USA and try to buy something called "carriage insurance", you probably get arrested by I.C.E. agents for being an illegal alien


that's understandable since Tom was pondering whether or not to name his God "Doofus'...


to answer the question with a simple "yes or no" which you so far have failed to do yourself defeats the purpose of this being a discussion forum

for example ...why weren't your post limited to a simple "no'....why did you feel the need to vent more

If you have read the whole thread there are many places (too many?) where I have said the answer is no, there is no such thing.

It is never necessary to prove that something does not exist! The onus is one the person claiming that something does exist to prove it does. However, there is no religious group that actually claims she does exist. All they say is that they 'believe' (have faith) that there is such a thing. This is why we can have a discussion about why some people have this strange belief.



I do my best but nobody is perfect! Some people have kindly praised what I've said, so I am content if some are not so happy.



Not sure what point you're making here. Nobody would call a car, sorry 'auto', by the wrong name unless by mistake. There is no argument about a Ford, it is a Ford and even has that name on a badge! The problem with the name of God is that there are many different names and much argument about which one is right. Every name will have followers who believe they are using the one-and-only 'correct' name and everyone else is wrong. Hence the need for some discussion.

In one post I invited other posters to say which faith, religion, or denomination they followed, but only Tom replied. I must assume that none of the other posters follow any one particular group, Catholic, Hindu, Methodist, Muslim, etc, but instead make it up as they go along, even going as far as to say everyone else is wrong.

but why do you have (too many) posts when according to you there should be no more than one post in which an opinion of yes or no is given.....why didn't you follow your own philosophy

I guess I'm not perfect and can't resist teasing those who have these beliefs

I think every single participant in this thread has their own ideas of God.
Those who do not prescribe to a God belief are just as worthy of their opinion as those who scream their faith in their God.

The way I understand belief, its an internal thing.
Since nobody and I do in every sense of the idea know, NOBODY else lives behind my eyes.
What I "Believe" is 'mine'.
I have no issue with you believing what you believe.

What gets me, and this is pretty significant in more ways than belief in God, is why other people can't seem to allow others to "Believe" what they want.

The way I see it, other people believe in the God they choose to believe in, or not choose to believe in.
It doesn't matter to me.
I have peace and contentment within.
I wonder why others can't find that same inner peace from their own beliefs?
As demonstrated by their constant turmoil.

you try way too hard to keep on failing. God is real, even your Grandfather was most certain of that!!

I only use the Greek for Paul's 13 letters.
everything else in the New Testament is properly documented from the Aramaic.

In Aramaic, Yeshua (the Factual Name of Jesus {WHOM THE GREEKS [7 separate total Ancient Historians of that time and day] WROTE ABOUT AND CONFIRMED WAS A LITERAL AND ACTUAL PERSON KNOWN TO THAT MESOPOTAMIA AREA})...
...means = "Yahweh's Salvation!!"

And that continues the tie of whom the Hebrew people called God (from early Old Testament) that eventually led to Yeshua, whose NAME meant, the Hebrew God and His Salvation.

it tied whom Isaiah spoke of in terms of Yahweh's Messiah.